wardialer
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FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:28 am

What OS did the laptop have?

I know that most major Federal Governments use Trusted version of Solaris or other Trusted UNIX versions. If that were the case, then this would of never even happened. And secondly, why in the HECK do government employees carry laptops??? Thats weird.

One solution is having PHYSICAL SECURITY. Is by having a desktop computer with high-grade metal padlocks stored in bullet-proof glass...

ALOT OF QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED HERE"

1. Why were they using laptops to store sensitive info?
2. Why wasnt the data stored in a highy secured enviroment like a server-room??
3. Why wasnt the system protected with a boot-up SYSTEM password?
4. Why wasnt the data ENCRYPTED??
5. What OS was the laptop using? UNIX or Windows?

All this senstive data had to be stored on a Mainframe type system. So I have no clue on why they had these data stored on laptops???

Its freaky.
 
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:40 am

I'm assuming this is the laptop with the VA info on it?
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:47 am

Since they're not saying where it was found or how they found it, I'll bet it's because it was never lost. How much you want to bet it was found misplaced or stashed in the same office where it was reportedly lost from. Someone misplaced it like we misplace our keys or TV remote.

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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:48 am

Quoting Wardialer (Thread starter):
What OS was the laptop using? UNIX or Windows?

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

Both are cracakable.
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:53 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
I'll bet it's because it was never lost. How much you want to bet it was found misplaced or stashed in the same office where it was reportedly lost from. Someone misplaced it like we misplace our keys or TV remote.

::roll eyes::

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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Someone misplaced it like we misplace our keys or TV remote

That's probably what did happen. The government just doesn't want to admit they misplace something or made a mistake about the location of an object that has secret info.
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wardialer
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:54 am

Well...I dont know...Maybe someone here can post on which OS was used to store all that sensitive data on the laptop.
 
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Someone misplaced it like we misplace our keys or TV remote

That's probably what did happen. The government just doesn't want to admit they misplaced something or made a mistake about the location of an object that has secret info.
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:57 am

I for one am very happy they found hte thing so that the VA does not have to spend any more money sending me and 26million other veterans more letters that must have cost millions. I was really aghast at that....

I can only imagine the resources spent to recover the laptop. They must have had a team working that, regardless of where or how it was found/recovered.
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wardialer
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:52 am

It just still baffles my mind on why federal emplyees take laptop computers home with them in the first place?? Thats a big huge huge no no...

They could of had a Mainframe z/OS type of system in a highly locked secure server room for keeping that much confendential data on there...Or keeping all sensitive data on a server-side system (like I said) that would be a Mainframe. And NOT a laptop were you can take it home and risking theft...

Someone will be collecting the unemployment checks pretty soon whoever is in charge managing the data or systems there..
 
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Since they're not saying where it was found or how they found it, I'll bet it's because it was never lost. How much you want to bet it was found misplaced or stashed in the same office where it was reportedly lost from. Someone misplaced it like we misplace our keys or TV remote.

Police Report says different Mark - and includes the other hunderd or so items stolen from the house.

This doesn't mitigate the assinine decisions that lead up to this laptop being carried home full of this kinds of data.
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RE: FBI Recovered Stolen Government Laptop

Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:53 pm

Quoting Wardialer (Reply 6):
Maybe someone here can post on which OS was used to store all that sensitive data on the laptop.

Who cares. The operating system won't mean anything compared to the encryption program or security system on the computer. It doesn't matter what you run it on, as long as you run it with something protecting the information.

However, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 8):
I for one am very happy they found hte thing so that the VA does not have to spend any more money sending me and 26million other veterans more letters that must have cost millions.

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I got two of these letters saying I was probably on the list and thought about how much money it must have cost to send every veteran on there a letter about the problem. This made a costly search for the laptop even costlier because of the amount of money spent on sending those out.

And all they really said was that a laptop was stolen. Saw that on CNN.  crazy 
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