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British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:57 am

I was just watching something on TV about the heat wave in southern England, and that got me thinking, about why every time they have a heatwave in Europe they have deaths. How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?
 
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:59 am

A heatwave in England usually means temperatures above 25C for more than two days, and no rain, and means that pallid English people lie around in public parks without shirts on and get sunburnt, which while painful, is rarely fatal.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
heat wave in southern England

The north too!

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

We don't have it in our homes which drives me crazy. All we have generally is central heating and super insulated houses that traps the heat in!

However, we have a/c in shops, offices and in our cars as an option like everywhere else.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

In Homes it is uncommon, even in new ones - in the UK we generally don't need it for more than a few days and nights a year, which doesn't really justify the expense of fitting and running aircon.

In offices it is more common - I think all modern offices have it now for employee comfort (and perhaps some health and safety rules as well), particularly as most offices depend on computers, which put out considerable heat themselves!

In cars it is generally an optional extra, except in marques considered top of the range (and even then base models often lack it!). Again, like with homes, it isn't huggely neccesary most of the time. While cars do warm up if left in the sun, opening a window is generally effective. Though it is becoming a lot more common to have air-con now, but mainly in larger cars and sporty models.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
25C for more than two days

At cranfield airport were ive been for the last few days its been 29'c but thunderstorms are expected tomorow with highs of 21'c but then gets warmer again for the rest of the week. We had Prob30 +TSRN (heavy thunderstorms and heavy rain) which eventually happened at about 1625

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:03 am

There's lots of places in Canada and the US that generally don't have AC. In Thunder Bay, nobody had AC...we didn't often need it. And here in Seattle few people have it either. In Toronto, you definitely need it!
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:04 am

It's been around 32C here recently, well above average for this time of year  Smile

Not many homes here have air con...

From the BBC:

A heatwave in north-west Europe three years ago caused 27,000 extra deaths.

In London, there was a 60% rise in the number of those aged over 75 who died.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5144490.stm
 
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:05 am

today it was 32, and then around mid afternoon a pretty harsh storm... same expected 2moz... oh joy more stickiness!
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:29 am

Quoting Kazzie (Reply 7):
oh joy more stickiness!

Wow! I though we were going to keep that quiet!  duck 

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:50 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 2):
We don't have it in our homes which drives me crazy.

Why not get a window unit?

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 5):
In Toronto, you definitely need it!

For at least 2 months of the year.

Thanks all for the info!
 
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:14 am

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 5):
In Toronto, you definitely need it!

April, your right we need it in Toronto as the air quality and humidity get really bad. It's been hot here and we are now starting to get some pretty heavy duty thunder storms....but for the smart ones they head North like we did this past weekend....and April I though of you and Mr. Harlot while we stood at the top of the forestry tower in Parry Sound.....it was amazing!!!

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 9):
Why not get a window unit?

Every year I think about getting one. Every year the heatwave is over before I get round to it.

In truth, it's just not necessary except on half a dozen nights a year.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:58 am

The heatwaves we get only last for a week or so, the 2003 heatwave lasted a week, not justifying installing expensive air conditioning systems in houses. I have a tower fan next to my bed blasting away through the night, and air conditioning in my car, so this is enough in helping to cope with the heat.
The heatwave should be over for the time being, we had a massive thunderstorm with cherry-sized hailstones yesterday afternoon.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:04 am

Don't cars in the UK have 90/4 air-conditioning?


Whereby you go 90kph and roll down all 4 windows?

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:05 am

Also instead of just installing the quick fix air conditioning there is much more investment being put into sustainable heating & cooling. The design of new homes and offices to helps them heat up quickly during the winter using just human body heat given off and to cool down just as quick during the summer using ventilation and controlled cool air flows.

Today though it has been very hot, I played cricket for most of it out in the baking sun and then wrapped it all up with a nice BBQ. When one of my friends left at 10:30 his in car temp was still reading 20C, and I'm sat here with a fan blasting at me to keep cool.

Still though, I hope it lasts bigthumbsup 

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:05 am

Too hot today, and still tonight as well.

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:09 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 13):
Don't cars in the UK have 90/4 air-conditioning?

Funnily enough, air conditioning is standard in virtually every car in Britain, yet many cars in the much warmer southern European nations don't have it. Explain that one.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:10 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

In homes it is virtually unheard of, stores and offices in my area - which gets extremely hot, humid and calm summers by European standards - are beginning to offer it with notable frequency and cars usually carry it, except if you buy true bread-and-butter models or really small cars. As for the latter, I think most people have realised it's actually safer to have air condition in your car since you can concentrate a lot better at 22°C than at 32°C.

"Extremely hot, humid and calm" means 35°C, a river cutting right across the city and no wind at all to very slow winds for most of the day.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
English people lie around in public parks without shirts on and get sunburnt, which while painful, is rarely fatal.

Such a shame really...  duck   Wink
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:36 am

Quoting Vaporlock (Reply 10):
we stood at the top of the forestry tower in Parry Sound.....it was amazing!!!

Oh Phyllis...my Northern Ontario girl! That must have been absolutely beautiful.  Smile
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:43 pm

Well that Brit heat wave hasn't spread over to Eire as we still have 15 degrees in the morning rhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:31 pm

Lol I ran into some London chicks when I was in Koh Samui a few weeks back. They were complaining about the heat in Australia. I was kind of consfused as may/june aren't known to be hot months in Australia and Thailand is hotter in June then Australia... hmm.. odd...
 
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:38 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 20):
Lol I ran into some London chicks when I was in Koh Samui a few weeks back. They were complaining about the heat in Australia. I was kind of consfused as may/june aren't known to be hot months in Australia and Thailand is hotter in June then Australia... hmm.. odd...

haha lol.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:01 pm

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 18):
Oh Phyllis...my Northern Ontario girl! That must have been absolutely beautiful.

April....it was amazing.....here is a picture we took high above the trees...and believe me it was so nice and cool up in the old forestry tower....the wind was blowing and the float planes were landing below....a great way to spend part of the day cooling off!!

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:11 pm

I had Air con installed in my house in London last month in one bedroom and the lounge. Makes a huge difference. In cars it is standard unless you buy a cheap car.
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:16 pm

Yesterday and today are my days off this week and its been baking for both of them, in fact its just too hot for the time being outside whch is why I am inside.

Unfortunately for me I am a typical pallid sickly looking Brit that burns if exposed to temperatures slightly above freezing for more than a few minutes!!

However I love the sun, the heat and the atmosphere it creates but we just don't have enough of it to learn how to effectively manage it.

So I'll be back in the office tomorrow moaning about my sunburn, despite the factor 35 suncream! Camping this weekend as well, I'll look like a boiled lobster by Monday thats for sure!

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:22 pm

Quoting GDC2006 (Reply 24):
Camping this weekend as well, I'll look like a boiled lobster by Monday thats for sure!

Camping is great....and yes, usually everyone gets sunburn especially if the weather is good!!!! LOL As far as sunblock...all you can do is keep putting it on...and hope you don't get too burned!

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:25 pm

Well, Currently 26C here in Hull  sun  Big grin



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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:35 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 26):
Well, Currently 26C here in Hull sun Big grin

33C here on the Costa del Solway  Smile
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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:37 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 27):
33C here on the Costa del Solway

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:38 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 28):
Jammy Sod Big grin

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:39 pm

Mind you I guess the good weather is all that IS good about the Solway Forth eh?  Wink  duck 



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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:53 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
A heatwave in England usually means temperatures above 25C for more than two days, and no rain, and means that pallid English people lie around in public parks without shirts on and get sunburnt, which while painful, is rarely fatal.

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RE: British Heat Wave

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 31):
Until JGP stands in the way and everyone gets excited thinking its an eclipse Big grin

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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:20 am

Well, I guess it hasn't lasted, just over 20C here, overcast and raining. Still, it'll keep the garden fresh, my grass needs it!

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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting Jaspike (Reply 6):
32C

HAHAHAHAHA no offence but that is funny!!

Thats what it is here in winter, and in summer its the overnight temp!!  Smile geez and comming from one of the colder parts of NZ it got to that quite often, we use to love it when it was that temp????
But i guess you guys are use to your dismal grey overcast days huh? :P lol
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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:59 am

Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 34):
HAHAHAHAHA no offence but that is funny!!

Thats what it is here in winter, and in summer its the overnight temp!! Smile geez and comming from one of the colder parts of NZ it got to that quite often, we use to love it when it was that temp????
But i guess you guys are use to your dismal grey overcast days huh? :P lol

A - We are not used to the heat like you
B - British heat is different, its extremely Humid
C - Overcasts are not as often as made out though today it is very VERY misty and humid, hot and storms here and there.. Horrible!
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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:13 am

Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 34):
HAHAHAHAHA no offence but that is funny!!

Ermmm ok. Didn't say it was amazingly hot, or fairly cool.. Just stating what it has been  Yeah sure
 
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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 31):
Until JGP stands in the way and everyone gets excited thinking its an eclipse

Don't you mean when I sit down. After all, the sun shines out of my arse - at least I think it does.

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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:03 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 37):
After all, the sun shines out of my arse

It could certainly fit....
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RE: British Heat Wave

Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:43 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 38):
It could certainly fit....

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