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India Tests Long Range Missile

Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:35 pm

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19732969-401,00.html?from=rss

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INDIA has successfully conducted its first test of a nuclear-capable ballistic missile with the range to reach the Chinese cities of Beijing and Shanghai.

The Agni-III missile which has a range of 4000km was launched today from Wheeler Island, 180km northeast of Bhubaneshwar in the eastern state of Orissa, defence officials said on condition of anonymity.

In May Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee had said the Agni-III, India's longest-range ballistic missile, was ready but that the country was observing "self-imposed restraint" before testing.

Opposition parties criticised the announcement, saying testing was being delayed because of pressure from the United States. New Delhi and Washington reached a landmark deal in March that will see sanctions lifted on India's access to civilian nuclear technology.

Sunday's test launch comes just four days after North Korea sparked an international outcry by test-firing seven missiles.

A highly-placed Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) source said the Indian test was "successful".

He said scientists had detected a snag in the booster rocket system of the Agni-III two weeks ago and had delayed its test. "Now we have papered over the problem and hence the launch window was chosen as Sunday," he said.

The missile was tracked during take-off, re-entry into Earth's atmosphere and splashdown in the Bay of Bengal, another defence official said.

The Agni (Fire) is one of five missiles being developed by the DRDO under its Integrated Guided Missile Development Program launched in 1983. The others are the Prithvi, the surface-to-air Trishul (Trident), multi-purpose Akash (Sky), and the anti-tank Nag (Cobra).

Nuclear rivals India and Pakistan, who have fought three wars since independence in 1947, routinely notify each other of missile tests.

The two countries came to the brink of a fourth war in the summer of 2002 following a December 2001 attack on India's parliament by suspected Pakistan-backed militants. Islamabad denied any role in the attack.

But in January 2004 the two sides began a peace process that has led to a ceasefire in the divided Himalayan state of Kashmir, the cause of two of the wars.

In May 1998, India conducted five nuclear tests citing China as a security threat. The tests were matched two weeks later by Pakistan which India says has received Beijing's assistance for its nuclear program, a claim denied by China.

But tensions between China and India have abated in the past two years including direct military talks and the reopening last week of a famed Silk Road pass in the Himalayas, the first direct border trade between the Asian giants since a brutal frontier war 44 years ago.

C. Uday Bhaskar, deputy head of the government funded Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses, said India's nuclear and missile programs should not be seen as country specific.

"Countries acquire strategic capabilities that are generic nature. Our program is not predicated on a single point threat. It is always in relation to the international strategic environment," Mr Bhaskar said.

conducted its first test of a nuclear capable medium-range ballistic missile with the range to reach the Chinese cities of Beijing and Shanghai.The test of the Agni-III missile took place from Wheeler Island, 180km northeast of Bhubaneswar, capital of India's eastern Orissa state, defence officials said.

In May, Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee told a military function in New Delhi that the Agni-III was ready, but that the country was observing "self-imposed restraint" before testing.

The test launch comes just a day after North Korea sparked an international outcry by test-firing seven missiles without warning into the Sea of Japan.

I wonder how the world will react to this especially Pakistan, the US and China even though China and India resumed border trading through himalays several day ago.
 
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:19 pm

India has proven its Capability of a Democratically run,Non military controlled & Non Exporter of Nuclear Spares for decades  Smile
When it comes to Security of The Nation.India does what is needed.Im sure other Democracies will agree.
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Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:21 pm

I am waiting for President Bush to tell us what he thinks... Wink
 
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:30 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
India has proven its Capability of a Democratically run,Non military controlled & Non Exporter of Nuclear Spares for decades

I agree. India is nowhere in the same league as a North Korea or Iran. I think they can be trusted to not do something stupid.

However, it becomes incumbent upon India to become a full member of the Non-Proliferation organizations. India cannot allow a technology-smuggling network to find a home there, such as Dr. Khan's network in Pakistan.
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Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:31 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
India has proven its Capability of a Democratically run,Non military controlled & Non Exporter of Nuclear Spares for decades

I agree unlike the other rogue states
 
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:24 am

Most folks aren't that concerned about India precisely because it seems to be quite stable these days and it seems friendly toward most, if not all, nations. For that reason, it seems that few people are alarmed by this development. It's hardly received much notice in the West, for example.
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:45 am

When you are Surrounded by Non Democratic & Military Dictators in the Region.Its better to be Prepared.
Also In todays day.India is considered a Responsile nation by most powers & hence the DisInteret.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:18 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 3):
However, it becomes incumbent upon India to become a full member of the Non-Proliferation organizations. India cannot allow a technology-smuggling network to find a home there, such as Dr. Khan's network in Pakistan.

Agreed.

Hopefully India is able to keep it's house in closer order then some of it's neighbors.
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:30 am

We'll accede to any non-proliferation regime that is tailored to prevent clandestine transfers of technology between countries. But we will not accept any restrictions upon our own attempts to build an arsenal that corresponds to our threat perception. Unfortunately the current non-proliferation regime does not fit these parameters, so we stay out. As soon as they change their parameters and recognize us as a strategic weapons power and thereby eliminate attempts at curbing our arsenal, we sign.

As for the test, this is just an initial one. There will be several more, to validate various technologies, in particular the navigation systems for accuracy, as well as the MIRV system.
 
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:00 am

Quoting Bofredork (Reply 2):
I am waiting for President Bush to tell us what he thinks... Wink

You'll be waiting for some time. India is much more responsible than North Korea. India does not have government run slave camps, purposely starve their own citizens, and test chemicals on prisoners while family members are forced to watch.

You are one sick individual if you think it's OK for North Korea to have dangerous weapons. North Korea is like a 2 year old child; would you give a 2 year old a gun? Hell no!!! North Korea doesn't give a crap about their own people... what makes you think they will treat us any different?

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Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:31 pm

Quoting BarfBag (Reply 8):
But we will not accept any restrictions upon our own attempts to build an arsenal that corresponds to our threat perception. Unfortunately the current non-proliferation regime does not fit these parameters,

I have to agree with that. The current NPT is woefully inadequate to the task, and does not differentiate treatment of rogue nations and responsible democracies.
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:18 pm

I dont have a problem with India having Nukes. India is a responsible Democratic nation. The Indian people are some of the finest people I have met. They seem to have very strong family values and are hard workers. You dont see India threatening destruction to other countries and they arent ruled by a 4-Foot DICKtator.

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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:27 pm

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 11):
I dont have a problem with India having Nukes. India is a responsible Democratic nation. The Indian people are some of the finest people I have met. They seem to have very strong family values and are hard workers. You dont see India threatening destruction to other countries and they arent ruled by a 4-Foot DICKtator.

I agree. India is a perfect example of responsible democratic nation
 
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 10):
Quoting BarfBag (Reply 8):
But we will not accept any restrictions upon our own attempts to build an arsenal that corresponds to our threat perception. Unfortunately the current non-proliferation regime does not fit these parameters,

I have to agree with that. The current NPT is woefully inadequate to the task, and does not differentiate treatment of rogue nations and responsible democracies.

Agree as well. Efforts to amend the NPT to provide such differentiation have failed, in part because for every country that wants to achieve India's goal, there are several who want to amend the NPT in a fashion to make it impossible for any nation to possess nuclear weapons.
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:07 pm

Its Simple. India is a developing nation, and part of that development is the development of its own weapons. In someways you could compare it to the US 40 or 50 years ago.
 
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RE: India Tests Long Range Missile

Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:52 pm

I think that the U.S. has good relations with India, and that's a very good thing, from my perspective. India is the world's most populous democracy. Although it is indeed a developing country, India is home to citizens who are very impressive in the ways mentioned above -- their industriousness, respect for education, economic achievements on the part of the diaspora, etc. I trust that class issues arising from traditional societal structures will be resolved with equity and justice in mind in the not-too-distant future.

I think that a nation can be judged in part by its friends, which is why I would like to believe that America and India treasure our respective relationships with each other.

Positive relations between the U.S. and India doesn't take away from any other diplomatic relationship, in my view, and particularly not, for example, that between the U.S. and Pakistan. I believe that there is room for all three -- the U.S., India, and Pakistan -- to develop and enhance existing ties toward the goal of peace, freedom, international order, and stability in the region.

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