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F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:28 pm

So the German Grand Prix to be held at Hockenheim for possibly the last time unless the organisers can persuade bernie to be part of a rotation system with the Nurgburgring.

Will Alonso return to his winning ways or will MS make it three in a row? Or will McLaren storm to the front with a dominating win on home soil (for Mercedes)

Also will we hear from Raikkonen next week as the apparent Ferrari pre-argeement is due to expire on Monday.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:36 pm

It's high time(s) for a Renault comeback and the new RS26 evolutions shall (...) see to that.

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:28 pm

I don't like the new Hockenheim too much, the old one was far superior. They should have never altered it.

Anyway... Mclaren have apparently made fantastic progress over the last few weeks, so its possible they could be in contention. I believe in France they were some of the fastest cars on track, they just didn't get the results.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 1):
It's high time(s) for a Renault comeback and the new RS26 evolutions shall (...) see to that.

Anything to stop that smug pratt wining at his home GP!  Wink

Really, you would be stupid to discount Alonso as a contender for victory.

Adam

P.S. My first ITV race of the year - good coverage at last.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:37 pm

Yes I smell a Renault come back!!! (and a Honda comeback :-P...yes I know, Im dreaming)

I hope Alonso wipes the smile of Shumachers face  Smile THat would be fun to watch.

Yes the ITV coverage is quite good. Especially Martin Brundles Grid Walk 15 minutes from the start. Always interupting other reporters! What a great guy Big grin
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:40 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 3):
Yes the ITV coverage is quite good. Especially Martin Brundles Grid Walk 15 minutes from the start. Always interupting other reporters! What a great guy

It is good, its not that biased unlike Rai is towards Ferrari - although they do like their Flav!

Adam
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:51 pm

Quoting BA757 (Reply 4):
It is good, its not that biased unlike Rai is towards Ferrari - although they do like their Flav!

Yes thats true. I have a choice of either ITV or RTE 2 coverage (which is Irish) however I prefer the ITV coverage as the commentating is definately much better...It used to be a million times better when Murray Walker was still commentating! Ahh the good old days!
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 5):
It used to be a million times better when Murray Walker was still commentating! Ahh the good old days!

Indeed - the mistakes he used to make where what made his commentary good.

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:01 pm

Quoting BA757 (Reply 6):
Indeed - the mistakes he used to make where what made his commentary good

Hahahahaha yea thats true. The current commonators also make quite afew mistakes but not as much as Murray. I think now Murray is working with Honda!

Quoting BA757 (Reply 2):
I don't like the new Hockenheim too much, the old one was far superior.

The good old days of Formula one 95 on the playstation!!!! Just driving over the grass at each chicane Big grin
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 7):
The good old days of Formula one 95 on the playstation!!!! Just driving over the grass at each chicane

 Smile
I was never a PlayStation kid much (despite having one), but I used to do the same on F1 '99 on the PC.

F1 Championship Challenge 99-2002 (PC) is pretty good despite it been old as you can have the old track variants as well as the new ones.

Adam
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:20 pm

Quoting BA757 (Reply 8):

I was never a PlayStation kid much (despite having one), but I used to do the same on F1 '99 on the PC.

F1 Championship Challenge 99-2002 (PC) is pretty good despite it been old as you can have the old track variants as well as the new ones.

I only ever really played F1 on my playstation.LOL. I played F1 95, then got F1 2000 then enjoyed it so much I got 2003 then 2005...and now waiting the 2006 version. Will be interesting to see how they manage to do the qualifying sessions. ONe thing that ennoys me about playstation F1 is the lack of computer crashes!

Anyhow, the German Grandprix is set to be a great race and hopefully, fi most cars are on form....the winner could be anyone
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:46 am

I would guess Montoya won't be there due to his premature announcement to jump to the USA's NASCAR. Maybe he likes to be with the 'good ol' boys' vs the pretentious F-1 people.
I believe M. Schumi will win at home again...sigh....Just hope it is a good, clean race (including the first turn) with some passing (yea, sure).
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:16 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 9):
I only ever really played F1 on my playstation.LOL. I played F1 95, then got F1 2000 then enjoyed it so much I got 2003 then 2005...and now waiting the 2006 version. Will be interesting to see how they manage to do the qualifying sessions. ONe thing that ennoys me about playstation F1 is the lack of computer crashes!

I had the F1 games for N64, not teh best.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 9):
Anyhow, the German Grandprix is set to be a great race and hopefully, fi most cars are on form....the winner could be anyone

So long as your name is Kimi, Fernando, Michael, or Scott*  Wink

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Maybe he likes to be with the 'good ol' boys' vs the pretentious F-1 people.

You know, as a JPM fan I'm not sure if I want him to take teh championship or if I want him to be smashed into teh wall at Daytona for his act of treason...

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 3):
Yes the ITV coverage is quite good. Especially Martin Brundles Grid Walk 15 minutes from the start. Always interupting other reporters! What a great guy 

I'm happy SpeedTV finally made this part of their pre-race ceremonies, more fun that way.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Just hope it is a good, clean race (including the first turn) with some passing (yea, sure).

Get Massa and Fisi to take one another out and let FA and MS go for it, that's be nice...

WEATHER: A wet track on Sunday!?

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
I would guess Montoya won't be there due to his premature announcement to jump to the USA's NASCAR

He won't drive a Mclaren car again.

Pedro will do the driving for now, and maybe Hamilton or Paffet the last few races.

Adam

[Edited 2006-07-26 19:18:50]
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 11):
Scott*

LOL actually he didn't do that badly in the last race. Nice to see Toro Rosso coming through and likewise with its founder team, Red Bull Racing
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 13):
LOL actually he didn't do that badly in the last race. Nice to see Toro Rosso coming through and likewise with its founder team, Red Bull Racing

So long as STR beats RedBull.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:44 am

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 14):
So long as STR beats RedBull.

LOL no way....other way around. Red Bull before hand. If STR start beating Red Bull... People will start looking at their Rev limited v10's!  Silly
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
LOL no way....other way around. Red Bull before hand. If STR start beating Red Bull... People will start looking at their Rev limited v10's!  

That's really why I want STR to win, to show teams didn't need to speand €1,000,000,000 to "cut costs" on engines. Not my problem if STR can do more with less  Wink
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:36 am

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 16):
That's really why I want STR to win, to show teams didn't need to speand €1,000,000,000 to "cut costs" on engines. Not my problem if STR can do more with less

LOL but the rev limited V10s were only ment for teams that were strapped for cash, such as minardi. Now that minardi is now STR, the contract really shouldn't be useabel. Also the v10's are an advantage as since they are running at lower revolutions than the v8, they should be slightly more reliable  Silly
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:45 am

BTW the BMW vertical wings are banned.
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:50 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
BTW the BMW vertical wings are banned.

I can't understand why they were allowed in the first place... didn't some team try this a few years ago at the Monaco GP which resulted in them been immediately banned for the reasons they are banned now?

Adam

[Edited 2006-07-26 22:51:57]
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):

Ouch for BMW. Remember they had the big Walrus nose wing afew years back. Ugly!
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:29 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
BTW the BMW vertical wings are banned.

ahh thanks for the heads up!

Here's the story:
http://www.formula1.com/news/4683.html

I wondered if it had any impact on the driver's vison.

Is everyone running Bridgestone? I thought I heard that...

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:29 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 17):
LOL but the rev limited V10s were only ment for teams that were strapped for cash, such as minardi. Now that minardi is now STR, the contract really shouldn't be useabel. Also the v10's are an advantage as since they are running at lower revolutions than the v8, they should be slightly more reliable  

Max's principle was to slow speeds and cut costs. Both of which could have been achieved for the 2006 yr w/ rev limiters.

Symonds has an interesting quote

Quote:
Tyres seem to be the talking point of the 2006 season. Why have they seemingly taken on such importance during this championship in particular?
PS: Tyres always were a dominant performance factor, and always will be. But in 2006, we have two teams, Renault and Ferrari, with their cars at a very similar level - and each of them is on a different tyre. Added to this is the fact that tyres play a bigger role in total performance than any other factor. For example, in France, a 5 percent increase in downforce would bring around 0.3s per lap; a 5 percent increase in tyre performance would bring more than a second a lap. When this characteristic is coupled with the apparently equality between the leading teams, then tyre performance becomes the keynote of the championship.

Jesus christ, if that's the case Bridgestone is well on teh ball!

The weather forecast now says a high around 28-29C on Sunday and partly cloudy skies. Might be wet for qualy. A bit cooler than it was in the past 2 races and may play into Michelin's hands... provided they don't fuck up the compounds... again.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:00 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 2):
I don't like the new Hockenheim too much, the old one was far superior. They should have never altered it.

Hermann Tilke (who neutered Hockenheim, and designed the no-character tracks in Malaysia, Turkey, and China)* needs to just go away.

* - This knock is against these particular circuits, NOT the countries they are in.

Bring back the old Hockenheim!!

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 7):

The good old days of Formula one 95 on the playstation!!!! Just driving over the grass at each chicane

Is that the version that has the tire-wall chicane on the long straight at Montreal? I can't tell you how many times I've generically wadded my car up on those motherhuffers....
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 23):
Is that the version that has the tire-wall chicane on the long straight at Montreal? I can't tell you how many times I've generically wadded my car up on those motherhuffers....

Ahhh I had forgotten about that. Yes thats right I destroyed my car there alot of times. I wonder if I could get past it any easier now!
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:03 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 8):
F1 Championship Challenge 99-2002 (PC) is pretty good despite it been old as you can have the old track variants as well as the new ones.

Grand Prix 4 is the best F1 game. It's sad that the gaming licence is now exculsive to Sony. I think I can smell a PS3 later in the year.

Quoting BA757 (Reply 19):
I can't understand why they were allowed in the first place... didn't some team try this a few years ago at the Monaco GP which resulted in them been immediately banned for the reasons they are banned now?

Yes, this is true. Arrows and Jordan ran similar wings to gain more downforce at Monaco. But since they obstructed driver vision, much like the BMW wings, they were promptly told to remove them.

The Jordan Wing


The Arrows Wing
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:56 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 25):
Yes, this is true. Arrows and Jordan ran similar wings to gain more downforce at Monaco. But since they obstructed driver vision, much like the BMW wings, they were promptly told to remove them.

Plus, if they were to fall/break off they would pose a spear-type danger to the driver.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 24):
Ahhh I had forgotten about that. Yes thats right I destroyed my car there alot of times. I wonder if I could get past it any easier now!

If you've ever played "GTR", Enna-Pergusa has a chicane that's like that (although it has proper kerbing and is actually a permanent feature) with nasty tire piles on the apexes. I've brutally botched that one on a couple **cough**dozen**cough** of occasions...  Big grin
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:05 am

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 26):
Plus, if they were to fall/break off they would pose a spear-type danger to the driver.

This is also true. I do believe that after Sennas death the regs regarding helmets and components were improved to make them more resistant to this kind of think happening. Although, obviously, it's not impenetrable.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:15 pm

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 23):
Bring back the old Hockenheim!!

Too late, has already been "renaturated"  Yeah sure . Better start using the "Nordschleife" on the Nurburgring again Big grin .
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:25 pm

The big news according to this morning's new issue of Autosport magazine is that Williams is due to announce a three year deal to use Toyota engines today, as has been expected for a while.

Its also expected that they will keep Rosberg and Webber for next season.


Super Aguri will have new car and new driver this race too - Sakon Yamamoto,
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:40 pm

And here is the Williams - Toyota confirmation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5219520.stm
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:47 pm

The Boss is back! Michael Schumacher 's time has come...he will do it, AGAIN 

[Edited 2006-07-27 10:48:29]
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:52 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 30):
And here is the Williams - Toyota confirmation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...0.stm

3 Years. So that's 2007, 2008, and 2009. So what happens in 2010 if/when that bullshit rule about having an engine development freeze for 3 seasons starts in 2008? Obviously, this is assuming Williams and Toyota split in 2009...

[Edited 2006-07-27 10:54:47]
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:05 pm

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 32):
3 Years. So that's 2007, 2008, and 2009. So what happens in 2010 if/when that bullshit rule about having an engine development freeze for 3 seasons starts in 2008? Obviously, this is assuming Williams and Toyota split in 2009...

Engine development freeze shouldn't have any impact on the relationship. Williams will be stuck with it regardless of who is supplying their engines.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:12 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 33):
Engine development freeze shouldn't have any impact on the relationship. Williams will be stuck with it regardless of who is supplying their engines.

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and they will be Toyota badged engines and not Lexus ones as had been speculated before.
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:27 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 33):
Engine development freeze shouldn't have any impact on the relationship. Williams will be stuck with it regardless of who is supplying their engines.

So, from what I understand is, that if the Toyota engine blows ass in 2008, Williams cannot dump the engine at the end of 2009 for say a better (2008 design) Honda engine. So with the rules are in place as they are, this is really a 4 season deal?

Or, could Honda build the engines, so long as there are no changes made to the engine, in 2010? Man I'm so lost. And it's 3:30 in the morning!

Regardless, I hate the engine freeze rule.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:31 pm

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 35):
So, from what I understand is, that if the Toyota engine blows ass in 2008, Williams cannot dump the engine at the end of 2009 for say a better (2008 design) Honda engine. So with the rules are in place as they are, this is really a 4 season deal?

Or, could Honda build the engines, so long as there are no changes made to the engine, in 2010? Man I'm so lost. And it's 3:30 in the morning!

If at the end of the three year contract they decide to buy Honda enigne sfor example then it means they will get the same spec as the Honda engines being used in the works team Honda for 2010. It just means the engine manufacturers freeze the spec. Independent teams can pick and choose which engines they want to buy as they like once contracts end.
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:06 pm

I'm not in favour of this engine freeze rule either. I also don't really understand what is being frozen. Is the basic design being frozen without an all new engine able to be developed for a few seasons or is there a freeze on the development of the engine during the season? If this is the case are manufacturers allowed to improve the reliability of the engine? If not, your going to see cost rise (yet again) due to more testing and more money being spent on R&D during the off season.

Yet again Max Mosley fails to see the big picture.
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:11 am

I just looked at Hockenheim on GoogleEarth and the image there looks quite different from the circuit pictures and diagrams elsewhere. The stadium end of the circuit looks the same, it is the part out in the woods that is very different.

Anyone who's been there tell me if G/E's picture is seriously out of date?
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 38):
SlamClick

Yup thats the old track they changed it in 2001 (?) they cut away alot of the circle bit too look like this


I prefer the newer version simply because theres more corners and interesting parts the old one was basically a big oval, and thats what nascars for!

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:33 am

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 39):

Thanks. I've tried all season long to G/E each track, turn on terrain and 'fly' myself around it. Poor substitute for driving it, even in a Miata but it does help me orient myself in the changing camera angles.

That old circuit would have pegged these engines in top gear! Would have been something to see.

One last comment: Reference the circuit diagram - didn't we have a thread last year about why maps are oriented North-Up? We've got Südkurve at the top and Nordkurve at the bottom. Pretty well shoots that one down in flames. Or UP in flames.
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:41 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 40):
SlamClick

f1 site

The lil red dots are on ride photos, gives you an idea for what you'll see, also the grey dots give you stats.
At the top there are other race tracks click on them and it comes up with another map  Smile

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:42 am

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 39):
I prefer the newer version simply because theres more corners and interesting parts the old one was basically a big oval, and thats what nascars for!


Can't beat the blast through teh forrest!
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:46 am

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 42):
Can't beat the blast through teh forrest!

But seriously were is the challenge in that!! anyone could drive that succesfully! all it is is acelllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeerrrrrrattttttttttttttttteeeeeeeee brake turn aceeeeeeeeelllllllerrrrrrrrrrattttttttteeeeeee break turn its boring!! i mean the best bit was seeing how fast the cars can go (which i guess is kool) but apart from that it was naff.

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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:26 pm

I think the new track is quite good. When racing on it on the playstation, the long curved straight provides great over taking and alot of the corners are tricky. I quite like the new circuit.

So about this engine freeze.... say Ferrari or REnault build great engines and everyone else has crappy engines, then the freee takes place.... Does this mean Ferrari and Renault domination for the next 3 years!?!?! (just used Renault and Ferrari as an example)
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:32 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 44):
So about this engine freeze.... say Ferrari or REnault build great engines and everyone else has crappy engines, then the freee takes place.... Does this mean Ferrari and Renault domination for the next 3 years!?!?! (just used Renault and Ferrari as an example)

No I believe its the engine paramaters that are frozen - in other words the design limits are much stricter. Not a case that an engine is buit and if it is crap then tough...
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:26 pm

I also hear Michael Schumacher is busy denying that BMW have made an absolutely enormous offer for his services and that secret talks between his manger Willy Weber and the BMW management have taken place.

Personally it wouldn't completely surprise me if it happened - he would end his career with a team which one would expect to be on an upward momentum curve and I would imagine he would get some sort of team mananger or BMW ambassadorial role once he stopped driving.

But having said that its more likely he'll finish his career with Ferrari.
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:54 pm

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 43):
acelllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeerrrrrrattttttttttttttttteeeeeeeee brake turn aceeeeeeeeelllllllerrrrrrrrrrattttttttteeeeeee break turn its boring!!

Gotta have some balls to be right next to someone and see who gives up at teh chicane!
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:53 pm

Jarno Trulli has signed a new Toyota contract - keeps him with the team up to 2009.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5114258.stm
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
 
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RE: F1: German Grand Prix

Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:08 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 46):

But having said that its more likely he'll finish his career with Ferrari.

So true he wont go out silently, he'll go out with a bang, so he'll either win another championship then go or wait till hes getting dominant then go, he definitely wont go this year, did you see how much he enjoyed himself after the last race magny cours (?)

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 44):
I think the new track is quite good. When racing on it on the playstation, the long curved straight provides great over taking and alot of the corners are tricky. I quite like the new circuit.

Yup especially after turning on the tight corner going back down through the lil nick on the track and then dow nto the corner when you almost have to stop, you can overtake hugely there.

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