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Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:59 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5223302.stm

Interesting read...Although the movie left much to be desired, it is interesting to see how this character has developed over the last almost century. Perhaps he's the "new age" religious figure.. ..

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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:55 am

Superman has always been something of a Jesus symbol, in that he's portrayed as invincible. He does have weaknesses, but he's placed over the ordinary man.

The latest movie uses cinematography to show him in nearly halo-like lighting and rising to meet the hand of God (metaphorically).

You can read pretty much anything you want into any piece of literature, so many will look at this as a Jesus symbol.

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 1):
Nope!

George W Bush

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Don't turn this into a political thread....
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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:06 pm

Most People look to someone Powerfull,especially when they can Win over Evil & win for the Underdog.However I don't think there is a connection.
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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:45 am

I think that, more than any other movie, the messianic aspect of the Superman mythos has surfaced in public discussions. I think that even the producer, Bryan Singer, has alluded to it, and I think that the parallels might even be intentional. In any event, if they're not intentional, they do seem subconscious.

My viewing of the movie visually confirms the allegorical aspects discussed above.

Equally interesting to me is the idea that Superman was originated by Canadians, that the Daily Planet was evidently based on the Toronto Star, and that the, according to some, Clark Kent evinces the "nice, even if a bit nerdy" aspect of Canadianness that many find admirable. Imagine that -- an American icon, developed in Canada!
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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:10 am

The actor, Brandon Routh is so well-equiped that the studio had to reduce his "package" after the movie was done..
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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:46 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
Superman has always been something of a Jesus symbol, in that he's portrayed as invincible. He does have weaknesses, but he's placed over the ordinary man.

The latest movie uses cinematography to show him in nearly halo-like lighting and rising to meet the hand of God (metaphorically).

You can read pretty much anything you want into any piece of literature, so many will look at this as a Jesus symbol.

I completely agree

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 4):
think that, more than any other movie, the messianic aspect of the Superman mythos has surfaced in public discussions. I think that even the producer, Bryan Singer, has alluded to it, and I think that the parallels might even be intentional. In any event, if they're not intentional, they do seem subconscious.

they are intentional

Jesus was sent by god to save the human race

Superman was sent by a superior to human figure to save the human race


In times of great need and suffering people pray for the return of Jesus.

Superman was certainly created at the time when the world needed him the most the great depression

both are considered saviors by millions


superman draws strenght from the son

maybe referring to Jesus

superman is not man even though he was raised by them
as was jesus according to the legend.


both can work miracles and have astounding affects on peoples lives.

and the most important similarity of all the both appear on shirts necklaces and bumper stickers
 
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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:49 pm

Yeah, a homoerotic Jesus.

A buff guy in a form fitting speedo flying over America?

How much gayer does that get?

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 1):
Nope!

George W Bush

To many Americans, GWB is beyond Jesus. But the minute he gets off the program by liking Mexicans, the halo comes off...
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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 6):
A buff guy in a form fitting speedo flying over America?

How much gayer does that get?

Why does the Superman myth have to be sexualized?

Some of this, I think, is pop Freudianism.

I remember when critics made fun of John Wayne and his characters using similar language. The phallic power of the gun, and so forth. It sometimes seems that whatever the American public find interesting and heroic, some will feel it necessary to disparage it in some way. Present company excepted, of course.

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RE: Is The New Superman Meant To Be Jesus?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:35 pm

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 7):
Why does the Superman myth have to be sexualized?

Why not?

If you wish to live in a gelded world, so be it, but the rest of us remain intrigued with all realms of the human experience. Sex and sexuality have been important elements of the accounts of many religious figures - Christ, Gautama Buddha, the Lord Krishna, etc.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 7):
It sometimes seems that whatever the American public find interesting and heroic, some will feel it necessary to disparage it in some way.

How does sexualizing something diminish its interest and heroism? And since when does sexualizing someone disparage him (or her)?

If Superman weren't a sexualized figure, he wouldn't be portrayed as an uber muscle man flying around in form fitting tights. He'd be wearing modest clothing designed not to draw attention to his male sexual characteristics. The reality is that Superman was always a highly sexualized icon of desire - countless women and gay men have always seen him as such. Perhaps, being a straight man, you may see him in a sexual neutral manner and this aspect of Superman may come as a total surprise to you. But tell me, are you blissfully unaware of the sexual aspect of such superheroes as Wonderwoman? Supergirl? They too wore highly sexualized clothing with great attention drawn to their rather ample breasts.
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