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Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:43 am

A friend of mine told me he went to a job interview and he told me the "white" interviewer told him that his dreads are considered an Extreme Hairstyle. My question is why? Dreads, Braids, and Locks can be kept nice and neat for the work place and all African Americans don't go to work with bogus hair styles. I've seen some other hairstyles thats considered extreme! Like those punkers with blue, read, and pink hair! So why are Dreads, Locks, and Braids considered to some an extreme hairstyle when its apart of our culture?
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:46 am

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
I've seen some other hairstyles thats considered extreme! Like those punkers with blue, read, and pink hair!

Were they working at the company where your friend applied?
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:03 am

No but I have seen them in other places or past jobs I have had. This isnt the first time I've heard of a black male/female being told their Locks/Braids/Dreads would to be changed to be considered for employment, or some asked to change their hair style. I could understand if their hair was down right BAD. But many people who have those type of hairstyles can keep them up, nice, neat, and well looking so why would some people's in some cases "natural hairstyle" be considered extreme?
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:06 am

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 2):
No but I have seen them in other places or past jobs I have had.

Then you're judging one company by the standards of another. Doesn't work that way.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Then you're judging one company by the standards of another. Doesn't work that way.

It's probably the opinion of one person more then an entire company. I work in a pretty conservitive place and if someone had dredlocks, particularly if it was a cultural thing, wouldn't be considered extreme. Whilst being conservitive, diversity is encouraged.
 
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:09 am

Black people are not accepted in many corporate American environments – contrary to the ‘we do not discriminate’ line of horseshit they feed you.

It’s a bigoted racial and cultural bias. Unfortunately. This is far more prominent in some regions of the US than others. And society can try and legislate it all they want, but you can’t legislate the stupidly out of some people.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:25 am

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
A friend of mine told me he went to a job interview and he told me the "white" interviewer told him that his dreads are considered an Extreme Hairstyle. My question is why?

Because they are ugly, and some customers are likely not to appreciate being served by someone with hair that looks filthy.

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
I've seen some other hairstyles thats considered extreme! Like those punkers with blue, read, and pink hair! So why are Dreads, Locks, and Braids considered to some an extreme hairstyle when its apart of our culture?

I wouldn't hire them either.

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 5):
Black people are not accepted in many corporate American environments – contrary to the ‘we do not discriminate’ line of horseshit they feed you.

Why are you bringing race into this? Are you a hatemonger?
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:32 am

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 5):
Black people are not accepted in many corporate American environments – contrary to the ‘we do not discriminate’ line of horseshit they feed you.

BS. It's people like you who continue to set us back with statements like that. Many companies would love none other than to employ a high ranking African American to use as positive PR.


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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:34 am

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
A friend of mine told me he went to a job interview and he told me the "white" interviewer told him that his dreads are considered an Extreme Hairstyle.

No offense, but I highly doubt this happened. There are so many "rules" about what can and cannot be said or asked during interviews that it is highly unlikely any legitimate interviewer said any such thing.
 
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:36 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
Why are you bringing race into this?

Replying to the topic – a topic which has to do with race.

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?



Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
the "white" interviewer



Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
African Americans

See - the three mentions of race; one in the thread topic and two in the thread starter.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
Are you a hatemonger?

No, however -

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 5):
Unfortunately.



Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 5):
many corporate American environments

Are.

And I'm against that.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:38 am

In my opinion, dreadlocks and braids are a hygiene issue because they can not be thoroughly washed regularly. Cleaning them does not go beyond a rinse. Then, the wearer gets dandruff and odor.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:43 am

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 7):
BS. It's people like you who continue to set us back with statements like that.

No.  redflag 

Its companies who discriminate that set anyone back.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 9):
Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?



Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
the "white" interviewer



Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
African Americans

Sounds like Tsaord is injecting Race into the issue where it has no business. Like BaylorAirBear said:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 10):
In my opinion, dreadlocks and braids are a hygiene issue because they can not be thoroughly washed regularly. Cleaning them does not go beyond a rinse. Then, the wearer gets dandruff and odor.

Race has nothing to do with it. It has to do with customers and collegues having to deal with a guy who looks like he treats his hair with earwax and never properly washes it.

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 9):
Are.

And I'm against that.

Support that statement. I'm not saying you are wrong, but it is a cheapshot to throw such an accusation out their without support.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 8):
No offense, but I highly doubt this happened. There are so many "rules" about what can and cannot be said or asked during interviews that it is highly unlikely any legitimate interviewer said any such thing.

Pardon me, but it's quite believeable. And it is something that occurs quite often. In fact, it occurs in my Department. In the APD. In the AST.

In fact, the dress standards for my Department specifically forbid dreadlocks beyond a certain length; hair of an unnatural color - be that orange, pink, blue, whatever; tatoos that are off color, etc.; fingernails that are too long and might interfere with the operation of a weapon (and have similar color as the unauthorized hair).

It's not discrimination - rather a standard of appearance an employer wants for his/her company. If the standard applies all around - no problem.

You wanna work for them, here's the standards for appearance. It's your call.

It's about presenting a professional image.

As for the dreadlocks - that isn't strictly an African American issue . . . how many non-African Americans have you seen with them? Plenty.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:54 am

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 8):
Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):A friend of mine told me he went to a job interview and he told me the "white" interviewer told him that his dreads are considered an Extreme Hairstyle.
No offense, but I highly doubt this happened. There are so many "rules" about what can and cannot be said or asked during interviews that it is highly unlikely any legitimate interviewer said any such thing.

I suspect someone is embellishing a story they've heard to provoke discussion. In the federal government, those of us that hire are are routinely provided training on what you can and can't say at a job interview.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 10):
In my opinion, dreadlocks and braids are a hygiene issue because they can not be thoroughly washed regularly. Cleaning them does not go beyond a rinse. Then, the wearer gets dandruff and odor.

Any hairstyle that is "different" or "unique" is going to create controversy, regardless of the race of the wearer. As CFalk notes, someone wearing dreads are going to have problems getting hired, just like someone with a "punk" or "goth" hairstyle. Like it or not, there is a "uniform" one wears to a job interview, and it includes grooming standards.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:01 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
Because they are ugly, and some customers are likely not to appreciate being served by someone with hair that looks filthy.

Well thank you for your honest opinion. Like I stated above. There are a lot of African Americans who can keep their hair style neat and not FILTHY as you put it. I wonder how they get along in Jamaica.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:10 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
Why are you bringing race into this? Are you a hatemonger?

#1 Race matters in the U.S. So much that if you are Biracial you can only represent one of your "self" on an application for almost anything.

#2 Race matters because how many Caucasions wear that hair style?
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:11 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
A friend of mine told me he went to a job interview and he told me the "white" interviewer told him that his dreads are considered an Extreme Hairstyle.

You just realized that now??? Even in high schools some principals are picky about those kinds of hairstyles..
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:25 pm

I knew some people were weary of those types of hair styles for whatever dumb reasons. But I don't understand how can you say thats its an extreme hair style particularly when a certain race/group of people wear them and some for Religious reasons who keep them nice and neat? I can see if the person just has them all over their head. But just like a person with a brushed fade can look nice and neat, it can look "extreme" if he walks out the house and not brush his hair.

There is nothing "filthy" about this womans hair


Compared to this guys hair


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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:33 pm

CFalk you've lost some respect from after saying all that. Dreads can be kept neat and clean smelling quite easily (I know, my brother has them)

I'm in full agreement with FlyingTexan's view of "keeping us back", there is no reason for any of us blacks to be keeping the wool over our eyes regarding hiring practice in corporate america and everywhere else, to do so is a mistake.

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 7):
BS. It's people like you who continue to set us back with statements like that. Many companies would love none other than to employ a high ranking African American to use as positive PR.

To me that simply black people to you are simply puppets for good PR, that they might not be getting hired because of their skills, but for PR. I hope you might see my problem with your thinking there.

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 8):
No offense, but I highly doubt this happened. There are so many "rules" about what can and cannot be said or asked during interviews that it is highly unlikely any legitimate interviewer said any such thing.

Pal, you better believe they can (and do). Also I'd like to point out as the story was quoted, he was told, not asked.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 10):
In my opinion, dreadlocks and braids are a hygiene issue because they can not be thoroughly washed regularly. Cleaning them does not go beyond a rinse. Then, the wearer gets dandruff and odor.

Absolutely untrue, my brother simply washes them after every soccer practice. He twists up the loose ends after he gets out of the shower, and yes he does this every day, black people do shower every day believe it or not... (I know I'm takin' it to an extreme, but c'mon what a lame argument ya had there).

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate Ameri

Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:11 pm

Quoting Soku39 (Reply 19):

Absolutely untrue, my brother simply washes them after every soccer practice. He twists up the loose ends after he gets out of the shower, and yes he does this every day, black people do shower every day believe it or not... (I know I'm takin' it to an extreme, but c'mon what a lame argument ya had there).

That's good that your brother takes pride in his appearance. While I stand by my original statement, I will say that it applies more to braids, also known as corn rows. The only way to properly wash braided hair is to remove said braids. Every person that I have ever asked, and I have asked, say they simply rinse the surface of their hair to avoid the time prohibitive process of rebraiding their hair after every shower, which can take hours and usually requires a hairdresser. That goes for whites, blacks, hispanics, and smurfs.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:48 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13):
As for the dreadlocks - that isn't strictly an African American issue . . . how many non-African Americans have you seen with them? Plenty.

Those would be the TrustFundarians and on white folks dreadlocks just looks ridiculous.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate Ameri

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:01 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13):
Pardon me, but it's quite believeable. And it is something that occurs quite often. In fact, it occurs in my Department. In the APD.

Your Department is not the same as Corporate America.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:17 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 15):
Well thank you for your honest opinion. Like I stated above. There are a lot of African Americans who can keep their hair style neat and not FILTHY as you put it.

I absolutely agree. But not in dreadlocks or braids, without completely combing them out. You might get the surface clean, but the oils building up inside those dreads are probably enough to lube your car.

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 16):
#2 Race matters because how many Caucasions wear that hair style?

I've seen a lot of high school and college-age white kids with them. Looks even more dumb.

Quoting Soku39 (Reply 19):
CFalk you've lost some respect from after saying all that. Dreads can be kept neat and clean smelling quite easily (I know, my brother has them)

Perhaps you are right, but I just don't see how it is physically possible.

And remember folks, it's all about impressions. If an employer needs to hire someone who has to deal with clients, he has the right and the obligation to hire only people whose appearance and presentation will offend the least number of people.

Plain, simple fact: If you want a good job, get a haircut, dress conservatively, and speak properly with correct grammer.

If you want to work in a place where they don't mind Jamaican clothing and hairstyles? I suggest moving to Jamaica.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:33 pm

Quoting Soku39 (Reply 19):
Dreads can be kept neat and clean smelling quite easily (I know, my brother has them)

Yes, they can. But one of the attributes of dreads is their low maintenance. One of the paralegals that work in my office told me that one of the reasons she switched to dreads is that she got tired of getting up every morning and having to "fix" her hair.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate Ameri

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:33 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
Because they are ugly, and some customers are likely not to appreciate being served by someone with hair that looks filthy.

 checkmark  Have any idea what it takes to get your hair looking like that?

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 10):
In my opinion, dreadlocks and braids are a hygiene issue because they can not be thoroughly washed regularly. Cleaning them does not go beyond a rinse. Then, the wearer gets dandruff and odor.

My college roommate had them, and they stunk! It wasn't just him, it was the dreads. I for one would not want to work next to somebody who had them.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 23):
Plain, simple fact: If you want a good job, get a haircut, dress conservatively, and speak properly with correct grammer.

Right, but it is grammar not grammer.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:42 pm

Quoting Migfan (Reply 25):
Right, but it is grammar not grammer.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:19 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
I've seen some other hairstyles thats considered extreme! Like those punkers with blue, read, and pink hair! So why are Dreads, Locks, and Braids considered to some an extreme hairstyle when its apart of our culture?

At my very blue chip law firm, we have some African American attorneys and secretaries sporting braids, and we even have one partner sporting dreads. However, he is also a rain maker and has clients chasing after him. His reputation in corporate America would never be sullied even if he showed up dressed like Tina Turner. Most are not so lucky.

Besides, I've never seen anyone show up to work in red, blue or green hair. If they did, they'd be asked to go home and change it.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:20 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 26):
You got me!

No offense intended.  smile 
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:39 am

I clicked on this just to see what it was about.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to do a screen capture and post what I am seeing because it was quite hilarious...the advertising banner below the original post is now showing a DVD for sale at www.braidsbybreslin.com, a how-to guide to, "braid beautiful twists, cornrows, and more!"...

just thought that was entertaining.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:03 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
Because they are ugly, and some customers are likely not to appreciate being served by someone with hair that looks filthy.

Your mind is narrower than a lane on the 110

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 23):
but the oils building up inside those dreads are probably enough to lube your car.

There is a reason those oils are called "essential oils". In fact, I worked with a guy who had long hair (not braided, just long) who hadn't washed it in months on the advice of a friend. He had the nicest, best smelling hair I have ever seen

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 24):
Yes, they can. But one of the attributes of dreads is their low maintenance. One of the paralegals that work in my office told me that one of the reasons she switched to dreads is that she got tired of getting up every morning and having to "fix" her hair.

Sure, they are low maintenance in the same way a buzz cut is, but there is nothing dirty about them.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:36 am

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
So why are Dreads, Locks, and Braids considered to some an extreme hairstyle when its apart of our culture?

Assuming you mean "a part" (two words) meaning a component of, and not "apart" meaning separate from...

Whose culture do you claim dreadlocks to be part of?
Not African.
Not American

I think most would associate them with Jamaica, originally, and with Rasta more specifically. There is another thing that is a part of Rasta and that is ganja and that sets off alarms all over corporate headquarters. Perhaps it is this association that is the problem and not simply race. Simple test - are there other African Americans working there?

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
the "white" interviewer told him that his dreads are considered an Extreme Hairstyle.

If the interviewer indeed said this, and if the interviewer was relating company policy then the race of the interviewer is not relevant and there is no good reason to mention it.

If the interviewer was winging it, then perhaps the interviewer's job will be available soon.

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Like those punkers with blue, read, and pink hair! So why are Dreads, Locks, and Braids considered to some an extreme hairstyle

I would agree that IF a company allows blue, red or pink hair but not dreads etc. THEN it sounds like a racial bias. But what two different companies or even two different jobs within a single company may require are not really relevant. Most airlines will permit an office worker to wear a neatly trimmed beard but they certainly don't permit pilots or flight attendants to wear one.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 4):
It's probably the opinion of one person more then an entire company.

Extremely unlikely in this country. There are Federal laws dictating what sort of practices can be followed regarding race, religion, age, sex and sexual orientation. Deviating from the company policy (which has been reviewed by their attorneys) is the fast track to the unemployment line.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:54 am

CFalk, I find it interesting that whenever there is a discussion about black folk, your name shows up. Based on your comments in this discussion and previous ones you seem to be ignorant about black americans.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:59 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Then you're judging one company by the standards of another. Doesn't work that way.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13):
It's about presenting a professional image.

Here is the thing, I have worked at or for dozens of Fortune 500 companies, and I have found that when you interview, they expect you to commit completely to it. Professional resume, clean cut appearance, drug screen, background check, whatever.

It is the first impression that counts, perception is everything. If you are not willing to sacrifice a hairstyle for an interview, what else are you not willing to do? All the other people interviewing probably gave up something for the interview, long hair, drugs, body piercing, dressing to hide a tattoo, excessive jewelry, whatever. Why put yourself at the bottom of the list?

Once you GET the job things change. Corporate culture has evolved to the point that you can have one 'freebie' in your appearance. If you want facial hair, you can get away with it if the rest of your appearance is up to snuff. You can have a pony tail, or dreds, or whatever, as long as you dont push it with something else on top of it. It grows back, so let it once you know the lay of the land.

One excess and everything else professional, plus high productivity, and you are fine.

We have strict rules about piercings, shaved heads, tattoos, mini skirts, and a lot of other things where I work. You see them all here, but people learn what they can and cant get away with and adjust. One eccentricity is not unusual anymore at all, two or more is a sign you are not a team player.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:15 am

Personally, I think that dreadlocks can look professional if they are worn the right way, but at the same time, I don't see it as discrimination against blacks; my dad's company, for example, has a no beards policy, and employees have to shave every morning, despite being in a 90%+ Muslim country, simply because it is a professional thing rather than being professional.

If the company was allowing other extreme hairstyles, then fair enough, but if its applied to all races and to all hairstyles, then I don't see a problem with it.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:27 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 33):
It is the first impression that counts, perception is everything. If you are not willing to sacrifice a hairstyle for an interview, what else are you not willing to do? All the other people interviewing probably gave up something for the interview, long hair, drugs, body piercing, dressing to hide a tattoo, excessive jewelry, whatever. Why put yourself at the bottom of the list?

I helped work the booth for a friend's company at a FAPA job fair once. There were airline booths there and two majors were actively recruiting pilots. A guy walked up to one of them, I won't mention any names (think purple) and asked for an application. He was wearing raggedy cutoff jeans and flipflops with a holey T-shirt. As he walked away the two recruiters looked at me and shook their heads! A short time later a guy came up in a lime-green leisure suit (in the 1990s) and snakeskin cowboy boots. Repeat head shake.

It is the personnel/recruiter's job to acquire you (or somebody a lot like you) for their company. It is your simple job not to get in the way of that process.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 30):
There is a reason those oils are called "essential oils". In fact, I worked with a guy who had long hair (not braided, just long) who hadn't washed it in months on the advice of a friend. He had the nicest, best smelling hair I have ever seen

Well, I'd tell him to take his "essential oils" and get outta here. And how about sweat, dirt, polution and everything else that gets in your hair on a daily basis, eh? Does he live in a plastic bubble to shield him from thses things?

Your argument is BS.

Quoting Daedaeg (Reply 32):
CFalk, I find it interesting that whenever there is a discussion about black folk, your name shows up. Based on your comments in this discussion and previous ones you seem to be ignorant about black americans.

This has nothing to do about blacks. I've seen a lot of white guys with rasta hair, and it looks even worse. I've even seen an asian with dreadlocks - now that was a sight!

In fact, blacks are generally extremely lucky. They have naturally decent looking hair that, if kept pretty short, requires almost no maintainance other than washing. They don't even have to comb it and it will still be perfectly presentable. I wish I had that.

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Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 36):
Well, I'd tell him to take his "essential oils" and get outta here. And how about sweat, dirt, polution and everything else that gets in your hair on a daily basis, eh? Does he live in a plastic bubble to shield him from thses things?

Your argument is BS.

The whole point is that the oils natually "wash" his hair. Afterall, the whole point of shampoo is to mimic the oils in your hair as closely as possible. Furthermore, soap is oil, which lends further credence to his philosophy, which does work regardless.

As far as your evaluation of my "argument" as BS, I was merely presenting an opposing view that bears truth. Of course, to you, it is BS because it disagrees with your oh so important POV.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:49 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 37):
The whole point is that the oils natually "wash" his hair. Afterall, the whole point of shampoo is to mimic the oils in your hair as closely as possible. Furthermore, soap is oil, which lends further credence to his philosophy, which does work regardless.

Bull. I bet you you will have a veritable biological and chemical laboratory on your head if you wear your head in dreads for a few weeks. It's just common sense. If you can find a scientist who says that the shed-able biological and other content of a guy with unwashed dreads is no different than someone with regularly washed hair, fine, but otherwise, keep him away from the kitchen.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 38):
I bet you you will have a veritable biological and chemical laboratory on your head if you wear your head in dreads for a few weeks.

You really need to take some blood pressure medication or something.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:07 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 30):
There is a reason those oils are called "essential oils". In fact, I worked with a guy who had long hair (not braided, just long) who hadn't washed it in months on the advice of a friend.

That sounds disgusting.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 37):
Furthermore, soap is oil, which lends further credence to his philosophy, which does work regardless.

Shampoo isn't soap, it's detergeant.
 
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:40 am

Can we get some context here? I mean, was he trying to get a job in sales or a warehouse?
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:46 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 15):
Well thank you for your honest opinion. Like I stated above. There are a lot of African Americans who can keep their hair style neat and not FILTHY as you put it. I wonder how they get along in Jamaica.

Although rastafarianism is big in Jamaica, you are going to see alot more people without dreadlocks than people with.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 23):
I absolutely agree. But not in dreadlocks or braids, without completely combing them out. You might get the surface clean, but the oils building up inside those dreads are probably enough to lube your car.

I dunno what to say to this. My two roomates have long hair usually kept in corn rows, and redone usually every two weeks or so. I don't get any strange smells from them. Their is very neat, smells just fine and I don't notice any problems with dandruff. What sort of black people do you guys know? Are we just guessing here?

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 36):
In fact, blacks are generally extremely lucky. They have naturally decent looking hair that, if kept pretty short, requires almost no maintainance other than washing. They don't even have to comb it and it will still be perfectly presentable. I wish I had that.

Trust me, we have to and do brush and/or comb our hair depending on the length. Our hair tends to get unitdy, as it is very curly. I strongly believe that only black people can notice, when another black person with short hair, has his hair rumpled.

Finally about this dreadlocks thing. I see how big a problem it would be when people with locks are not hired cause of their hair. That is becuase, the US is liberal country and there is alot of laws against discrimination etc.

But just so that you know, in the caribbean, where dreadlocks probably originated, you are going to find alot, and I mean alot of companies that will not hire, particulalry a guy with dreadlocks. I assume it is becuase we are mostly ex english colonies and the people tend to have an old fashioned way of thinking. A guy was asked to leave the class of a college i went to cause of his hair. I worked at the airport, and in the book of guidlines, it is strictly stated that clerical male staff are not allowed to work with long hair, dread locks, corn rows, whatever it maybe. That is how it is in most caribbean islands boys and girls, and guess what, by far there are more black people living there than there is white.

On the other hand though, as much as some may have a problem getting a job in the US, I know some guys with dreadlocks, though neatly kept but with some rather well paying corporate jobs in NYC.

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:58 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 36):
In fact, blacks are generally extremely lucky. They have naturally decent looking hair that, if kept pretty short, requires almost no maintainance other than washing. They don't even have to comb it and it will still be perfectly presentable. I wish I had that.

Well I do and it looks horrible if I don't brush it a couple times a day. To get it lookin like Denzels (waves) you're going to need to brush it ALOT, and a little hair grease never hurts.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:44 pm

I thought this was funny. I was reading this thread while logged out earlier, and couldn't help but notice the irony. I assume adds are placed based on their relevance to text on the page?
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting Soku39 (Reply 43):
Well I do and it looks horrible if I don't brush it a couple times a day. To get it lookin like Denzels (waves) you're going to need to brush it ALOT, and a little hair grease never hurts.

OK, I didn't know that. I always thought you woke up like that, maintainance-free. Sorry. Would be nice.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:29 pm

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 41):
Can we get some context here? I mean, was he trying to get a job in sales or a warehouse?

Thats the thing, at that point all you are doing is trying to get past the first cut. What that recruiter thinks is all that matters.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:16 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 36):
In fact, blacks are generally extremely lucky. They have naturally decent looking hair that, if kept pretty short, requires almost no maintainance other than washing. They don't even have to comb it and it will still be perfectly presentable. I wish I had that.



Quoting Cfalk (Reply 45):
OK, I didn't know that. I always thought you woke up like that, maintainance-free. Sorry. Would be nice.

So you could be wrong about dreads or braids as well? Just sayin....... silly 

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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:37 pm

I like the short little twisty dreds, the ones less than an inch or so. I think that done right they look clean and well styled. The long nasty ones are another story. There are some very conservative neat braided and dreded hairstyles. Every company I've worked for has rules about the length and style of hair as long as the style falls within those guidlines who cares.
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RE: Black Hair Styles "extreme" In Corporate America?

Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:24 pm

Quoting Soku39 (Reply 43):
Well I do and it looks horrible if I don't brush it a couple times a day. To get it lookin like Denzels (waves) you're going to need to brush it ALOT, and a little hair grease never hurts.

Dude, thats basically maintenance free compared to my hair.
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