UAL747
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Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:22 am

I just got back from "Pepboys" and I bought some gasoline additives. One was a fuel injector cleaner and the other were "non-street-legal" octane boosters. I put it in my 2003 BMW 540i. Spent about 33.00USD on them. What say you?

Also, around 1996 a friend of mine had a Porsche 911 and both our parents have hangars and jet fuel accounts at the same airport. (Wiley Post in OKC). Chad (my friend) said that his dad told him to go fill up the Porsche with jet fuel once a month and that it was good for it. I've thought about going and doing the same, but is that really true?

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Cadet57
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:27 am

The injector cleaner: Must be the good stuff, I use the chevron brand, about 10-15 a bottle once every 3 months, It does work. Ive noticed a bit better proformance and a bit better gas milage. Granted a drive a V6 chevy so it doesnt matter, but it does work.
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kaddyuk
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:55 am

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Chad (my friend) said that his dad told him to go fill up the Porsche with jet fuel once a month and that it was good for it

Call bullshit on this unless they drive a Diesel porsche.

JP-4 (Jet A) and Diesel are next to each other in the Fractional Distallation Tower.

Diesel condensing at a higher temperature than Kerosene. You can run a diesel engine on kerosene however only in a mixture (Not sure on an appropriate mixture). And i'd avoid using it on a modern engine as you will invalidate your warranty.

Its also illegal as not only have you not PAID for the fuel, the fuel is without Duty or Tax (Much like red diesel) and therefore you can be prosecuted!
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usnseallt82
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

I looked this up once to see if what I was paying was actually doing any good. I found several articles containing research that stated no significant results came from using these additives.

If I can find those articles, I'll post them.

Also, they state that content-wise, the most expensive Chevron-Techron-Gas-Blaster-Plus is no different than the $0.89 Walmart brand of the same solution. All you're paying for is name brand costs...not content.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Also, around 1996 a friend of mine had a Porsche 911 and both our parents have hangars and jet fuel accounts at the same airport.

This solidifies everything I've thought about you.  no 

I wouldn't have mentioned this.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Chad (my friend) said that his dad told him to go fill up the Porsche with jet fuel once a month and that it was good for it. I've thought about going and doing the same, but is that really true?

After a certain period of time, the jet fuel at certain airports can go slightly bad, or at least this was the excuse the maint. guys always made up. So, whenever the FBO would get ready to dump a little bit of the bad fuel, they would just put it in their diesel trucks. Worked just fine and was much cleaner in exhaust properties.

However, I still wouldn't trust putting something into my vehicle that it wasn't designed to use.
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
put it in my 2003 BMW 540i. Spent about 33.00USD on them ... friend of mine had a Porsche 911 ... both our parents have hangars and jet fuel accounts at the same airport ... said that his dad told him to go fill up the Porsche with jet fuel

Why do you try so hard Phil?

Why does every post you make need to include some sort of elitest reference to your father's money?

I've thought a few times that you were a good guy, but you keep trying so hard to impress everyone here with your dad's money, that it makes me wonder if you have anything else to offer.

We all know you had a priviledged childhood. Good for you. Now when are you going to develop of personality and life of your own? You're an adult now Phil, not Daddy's boy.

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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:31 am

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
One was a fuel injector cleaner and the other were "non-street-legal" octane boosters. I put it in my 2003 BMW 540i. Spent about 33.00USD on them. What say you?

I'd say don't bother, some additives can cause engine damage, consult your BMW handbook.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Chad (my friend) said that his dad told him to go fill up the Porsche with jet fuel once a month and that it was good for it. I've thought about going and doing the same, but is that really true?

Jet fuel, being similar in properties to diesel, wouldn't do your gasoline engine much good! Maybe if diluted it wouldn't do as much damage, if not, be ready to open up your wallet! Which, judging by the replies above won't be too difficult.

Rgds.

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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:41 am

Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 4):
Why do you try so hard Phil?

Why does every post you make need to include some sort of elitest reference to your father's money?

I've thought a few times that you were a good guy, but you keep trying so hard to impress everyone here with your dad's money, that it makes me wonder if you have anything else to offer.

We all know you had a priviledged childhood. Good for you. Now when are you going to develop of personality and life of your own? You're an adult now Phil, not Daddy's boy.

My thoughts exactly.  checkmark 

Pathetic...and it only seems to get worse.
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:14 am

Oh whatever....so what, why does it matter? Yeah, we have a hangar....who cares? If you honestly knew me, you'd think differently...but you prejudge....
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 7):
Oh whatever....so what, why does it matter? Yeah, we have a hangar....who cares? If you honestly knew me, you'd think differently...but you prejudge....

Prejudge my ass Phil! As if you even drive you aggressively enough to know the difference in the performance of your car. You don't even have a clutch in it!

Once in a while you post something decent, but the rest of time you sound like Paris Hilton. Why do I care? Because I keep mistaking you for someone who is better than that. Grow up.

As for who cares about your money? Well, you.

You could have just said, "I just got back from "Pepboys" and I bought some gasoline additives. One was a fuel injector cleaner and the other were "non-street-legal" octane boosters. Spent about 33.00USD on them. What say you?", but you had to go spewing on about this hangar and you buddy's Porsche.

It makes you sound so shallow.

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[Edited 2006-08-23 03:22:06]
 
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting Jamie757 (Reply 5):
Jet fuel, being similar in properties to diesel, wouldn't do your gasoline engine much good! Maybe if diluted it wouldn't do as much damage, if not, be ready to open up your wallet! Which, judging by the replies above won't be too difficult.

Its always worse to put Petrol in a Diesel car than Diesel in a Petrol Car. Sure, they'll both burn in your engine, pretty badly, however diesel has lubricating properties that petrol does not and so you can very quickly damage items like fuel pumps by using petrol in a diesel.

This is one of the reasons why water is so bad in aeroplane fuel, because water does not have any lubricating properties and so will damage the spur pumps which pressurise the fuel.
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:20 am

You know what.....hell if I care what you think. I agree with you on some things, and others no. You don't know me...you don't know that I work for what I have, and you don't know what I have in my bank account. You're just looking for another reason to flame.
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 7):
Oh whatever....so what, why does it matter? Yeah, we have a hangar....who cares? If you honestly knew me, you'd think differently...but you prejudge....

Buddy, I don't have to know you to know that you're about as insecure as they come. Damn near every post you make seems to have some reference to your flashy car, wads of cash, or filthy rich parents. Do you really think this exemplifies you as a person?

I'd like to think someone would rather be known for what they contribute to society, rather than how efficiently they spend their parents' money.
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 10):
You know what.....hell if I care what you think. I agree with you on some things, and others no. You don't know me...you don't know that I work for what I have, and you don't know what I have in my bank account. You're just looking for another reason to flame.

I don't care what's in your bank account, and I can SEE what you're all about. You've also TOLD me that you've WORKED for NOTHING.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ation/read.main/848437/6/#ID848437

I don't look for reasons to flame you. I just get tired of keeping my mouth shut.

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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:52 am

Back in the late 1950's, when my father worked for Curtiss-Wright in New Jersey (he inspected rebuilt piston aircraft engines) he used some 130 octane prop fuel in his 1957 Dodge as nearby gas stations were closed and the gauge was near E. Said the car ran real good with that ultra super stuff, topped over 110 mph on the night time deserted roads. He understood not to run the car with it very long as it could cause damage and excess lead deposits.

All major brand and many no-name gasolines have a minimum amount of detergents and the like to reduce deposits. The use of detergent and petro based solvent fuel cleaners may help with occasional use to clean injectors. Octane boosters are really for those whom are racing on a track or have 'fast and furious' very modified cars. Some fuel additives could cause harm to pollution control equipment, so be careful. Better to use name brand premium fuel, if need premium fuel for the better detergents in it.
 
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:58 am

Can we get back on track now, gentlemen?

If you put diesel fuel in a gasoline engine, you will destroy it within a minute, if it even runs at all. Since diesel fuel has very little resistance to detonation, you will blow huge holes in your pistons in no time flat.

As for fuel additives, don't waste your money on most of that stuff - all you need is Seafoam. 1/3 of a can into the gas tank, 1/3 into the oil (change it within 50 miles though), and 1/3 sucked into the intake manifold through a vacuum line. It'll make tons of smoke for a few minutes, but you'll run better for it.
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 9):
Its always worse to put Petrol in a Diesel car than Diesel in a Petrol Car. Sure, they'll both burn in your engine, pretty badly, however diesel has lubricating properties that petrol does not and so you can very quickly damage items like fuel pumps by using petrol in a diesel.

I do know that, my point was that putting jet fuel in a petrol engine isn't going to do it much good. I don't need the lesson on automotive engines thankyou.

 Wink

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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:27 am

Quoting Jamie757 (Reply 5):
I'd say don't bother, some additives can cause engine damage, consult your BMW handbook.

Very true, my Honda Civic Hybrid and Pontiac Grand Prix GT both forbid the use of MMT in their engines; doing so will void the warranty and damage the engine. Out of curiosity, I checked the label of many of these "performance boosters" when I was in my local Autozone not too long ago, and have found most contain MMT.

Also, the Government and consumer guides both explain that these additives, pills, magnets, and gadgets are either scams, or provide such a tiny effect that it is considered insufficient to offset its cost.
 
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RE: Do Gasoline Additives Really Work?

Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:05 pm

High fructose corn syrup does execeptionally well in gasoline engines. You'd be surprised at how much octane it really has.

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