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It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:50 pm

Leading astronomers have declared that Pluto is no longer a planet, approving new guidelines that downsize the solar system from nine planets to eight. The International Astronomical Union stripped Pluto of the planetary status it has held since its discovery in 1930.



I feel depressed! Sad

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/24/pluto.ap/index.html

I was aware of these but still, we just lost a planet. Post your condolences here.  Wink

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:52 pm

 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:53 pm

As I said in a Military Aviation and Space thread: Poor Pluto!

It'll take some doing for me to catch myself when I try to remember how many planets we have in our Solar System.

"Eight, not nine!"

Seems so strange, somehow....
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:56 pm

Define: planet

1) any of the nine large celestial bodies in the solar system that revolve around the sun and shine by reflected light; Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto in order of their proximity to the sun; viewed from the constellation Hercules, all the planets rotate around the sun in a counterclockwise direction

2) an object in orbit around a star that is not a star in its own right

Now, pluto is not a star, and it orbits round the sun, so that makes it a planet! Cmon astronomers, google says so, so it must be true!

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:57 pm

Hmmm, does that mean that Pluto gets deleted from Gustav Holst's masterpiece "The planets", too??? Poor Engerlaenders, only a few remarkable pieces in classical music and now THAT  silly 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:58 pm

Wasn't there a somewhat-recent release saying they had actually discovered a tenth planet? Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting Andreas (Reply 4):
Hmmm, does that mean that Pluto gets deleted from Gustav Holst's masterpiece "The planets", too???

It isn't mentioned anyway!  mischievous 
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:03 pm

Now where are you going to go on holiday Alex? Big grin

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 7):
Now where are you going to go on holiday Alex?

The nearest thing to Pluto I could find, something desolate and empty.

The Isle of Man! Big grin
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Wasn't there a somewhat-recent release saying they had actually discovered a tenth planet? Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??

Sedna, Quaoar, Xena and a couple of others, as I recall, are considered Kuiper Belt Objects now. As is poor Pluto! Or are they Trans-Neptunian Objects? It's all quite confusing.

If Pluto is considered a Kuiper Belt Object, then so is Charon, its largest moon, and its two other, much-smaller moons.

Ceres remains a large asteroid, located much closer to Earth.

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:17:20]
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:05 pm




Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??

Hey, times are tough and oil prices are high. If the solar system hadn't been downsized to improve efficiency, chapter 11 would have been the only option.

I blame management.  Wink




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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:11 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Thread starter):
I was aware of these but still, we just lost a planet.

"I feel a great disturbance in the Force...."

 

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:13:03]
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:15 pm

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??

I think what will eventually happen, especially as more large objects are discovered beyond Neptune, is that some additional classification scheme will be needed for objects like Pluto, Sedna, and 2003 UB313. Size aside, b/c their orbits are often at odd inclinations and are highly eccentric (Sedna for example has an orbital period of 12050(!) years, gets as close as 76 AUs and as far as 975 AUs), they are clearly very different objects in how they came to be and what their role in the solar system is.
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 8):
The nearest thing to Pluto I could find, something desolate and empty.

The Isle of Man!

Touche, you bastard!! You'll get yours!!  devil 

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:18 pm

Quoting Andreas (Reply 4):
Hmmm, does that mean that Pluto gets deleted from Gustav Holst's masterpiece "The planets", too???

Pluto was never a movement in "The Planets" as Holst wrote it. The movement "Pluto, the Renewer" was written as an add-on by Colin Matthews in 2000.

From my perspective why not consider it a planet? It may not have "orbital dominance," but Pluto does have three satellites of its own (Charon, Nix, and Hydra) - why not just grandfather it as a planet and be done with it?
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Hey, times are tough and oil prices are high. If the solar system hadn't been downsized to improve efficiency, chapter 11 would have been the only option.

I blame management.

You may still expect the retirement plan to be scrapped!

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:26 pm

What about my mnemonic?

My
Very
Easy
Method
Just
Speeds
Up
Naming
Planets

What am I supposed to do now?  cry 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:28 pm

By the way, NASA's New Horizons space probe may become the first and only spacecraft ever to have been launched toward a planet that ended up at a Kuiper Belt Object -- Pluto.

Regardless of that, I look forward to seeing New Horizon reach Pluto in years hence, if for nothing else than nostalgia's sake.

Come to think of it, it may be a greater honor for a spacecraft to visit a Kuiper Belt Object for the very first time -- that, and Charon, another such object, too! After all, visiting planets is so 2006.

 

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:38:10]
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:30 pm

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 16):
My
Very
Easy
Method
Just
Speeds
Up
Naming
Planets

I've never had to use any mnemonic, because I'm just that geeky. Nevertheless....

"My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Nothing"?

...Well, it was at least a try!

  

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:31:59]
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:31 pm

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 14):
From my perspective why not consider it a planet? It may not have "orbital dominance," but Pluto does have three satellites of its own (Charon, Nix, and Hydra) - why not just grandfather it as a planet and be done with it?

Because science is based on models constructed from theory and observation, not sentimentality. Pluto does not fit the model parameters for being a planet. It's not like Pluto is offended.  Wink
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:32 pm

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 19):
It's not like Pluto is offended.  Wink

That's what they all said about Mars, too -- right before we had the War of the Worlds....

 Wink
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:36 pm

Now what do we do with so many cases of this stuff?


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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 14):
Pluto was never a movement in "The Planets" as Holst wrote it

Yes but it is there NOW...Mr. Holst wouldn't be present to protest anyway!  Wink
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:44 pm

I wonder if all those bullshit astrologists will have to re-align their crap now that Pluto is no longer a planet?

 Wink

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:25 am

Well, let's not forget Rupert is still out there, so we insiders know there are still nine planets. Or was it 42?

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 16):
My
Very
Easy
Method
Just
Speeds
Up
Naming
Planets

My Very Entertaining Mother Just Served Us Nine... that is all, goodnight.
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:48 am

Quoting David L (Reply 25):
My Very Entertaining Mother Just Served Us Nine

You may not want to be posting that on the internet.  faint 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 8):
The nearest thing to Pluto I could find, something desolate and empty.

You're going to vacation in LHMark's sex life???
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:01 am

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 26):

 confused  I guess there's some meaning I'm not aware of.  Smile

Are you aware of the now defunct mnemonic "My Very Entertaining Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas"?
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting Myt332 (Thread starter):
I feel depressed!

Don't worry, Myt332, as long as they don't interfere with Uranus you'll be okay.
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:28 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 7):
Now where are you going to go on holiday Alex?

Maybe he should take a look at Uranus Andy.  Big grin
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 30):
Maybe he should take a look at Uranus Andy.

Braybuddy has already been there and he's told me it's a bit of a shit hole, more suited to tight fisted people. I'll give it a miss if that ok.  Smile
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 31):
tight fisted people

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 30):
Maybe he should take a look at Uranus Andy.

Now, thats just inflamatory - and as I already have piles............ butthead 

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:52 am

Forget the astronomical Union.

I have made my own new definitions of the Solar System.

4 GIANT planets: Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune
4 Major planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars
5 dwarf planets: Pluto, Xena, Sedna, Ceres, 2005 FY9

And any large moon (1000km +) becomes a 'planetoid' satellite:

16 planetoid satellites: Luna, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Titan, Dione, Rhea, Iapetus, Tethys, Ariel, Oberon, Titania, Umbriel, Triton, Charon.

19 minor satellites (100km-1000km): Amalthea, Himalia, Thebe, Enceladus, Epimetheus, Hyperion, Janus, Mimas, Phoebe, Miranda, Portia, Puck, Sycorax, Nereid, Proteus, Larissa, Galatea, Despina, S/2005 P1.
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:41 am

Perfect! So under Bush, we have already lost one planet, which one is next?  grumpy 




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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:56 am

Is the solar system bankrupt? Is that why they're downsizing? Too much competition from another galaxy?

Poor Pluto.

It's so F#%k!ng Goofy.  Big grin
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting Bohica (Reply 36):
Is the solar system bankrupt? Is that why they're downsizing? Too much competition from another galaxy?

I'll believe that when Pluto is actually impounded and towed away...!  mischievous 
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:15 am

The bastards! They killed Pluto! They will pay dearly for this.
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:07 am

I keep meaning to ask about Xena. I thought that was a planet. So where are Pluto, Xena, Sedna, Ceres, and 2005 FY9 in relation to the sun? Do they have sattelites?

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Hey, times are tough and oil prices are high. If the solar system hadn't been downsized to improve efficiency, chapter 11 would have been the only option.

I blame management.

 rotfl 

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 35):
Perfect! So under Bush, we have already lost one planet, which one is next?

[ANC on] Gawwdamn, some of you need to get a life. It took 35 fawking replies for someone to blame Bush. 35! [/ANC off]  duck   silly 

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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:31 pm

Well this will be hard to get used to as I grew up with Pluto being a planet Ohh well.  Sad
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:55 pm

Any reaction from the Pluto a.netters?
 
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RE: It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto

Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:12 pm

Quoting David L (Reply 28):
Are you aware of the now defunct mnemonic "My Very Entertaining Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas"?

Thats the one I remember, although... It was always "My Very EXCELLENT Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas" when we said it. Excellent makes a lot more sense than "entertaining".

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 23):
I wonder if all those bullshit astrologists will have to re-align their crap now that Pluto is no longer a planet?

Perhaps, along with Pluto, they too will disappear from this universe (but that's probably just wishful thinking).
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