aislepathlight
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Yasakuni Shrine On August 15th

Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:24 pm

In my recent trip to Japan, I had the fortune (or not, depends what you think) to see Yasakuni Shrine on August 15th. If you didn't put together the fact that it is a monument to fallen Japanese soldiers and the end of World War two, there you go. I woke up that morning in my hotel, the Kojimachi Kaikan, and turned on the TV, to find coverage starting on the Prime Ministers trip to the shrine on most every channel, and could see the helicopters covering the trip outside my window, and could also see the official residence of the Prime Minister. I decided that after breakfast, I would run down there to see it, as from TV, it looked crazy. I got there, and it was packed. I was there to see the mass crowds, and it proved quite a spectacle. There was a group of vets from a unit with the hats that they wore to during WWII.





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As I was leaving the ground, I was shocked to see a man, dressed up in something resembling a uniform, waving a large flag of the rising sun and the one of the WWII era also, with a Hitler Salute. Rather shocking.



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RE: Yasakuni Shrine On August 15th

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am

Quoting AislepathLight (Thread starter):
As I was leaving the ground, I was shocked to see a man, dressed up in something resembling a uniform, waving a large flag of the rising sun and the one of the WWII era also, with a Hitler Salute. Rather shocking.

I'd guess that it's a protester, not a sympathizer. There's lots of controversy when Koizumi-san visits the shrine.

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aislepathlight
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RE: Yasakuni Shrine On August 15th

Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting Doona (Reply 1):
I'd guess that it's a protester, not a sympathizer. There's lots of controversy when Koizumi-san visits the shrine.

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No, Doona, you are confused. Koizumi goes there, I think, to pay respect to those 2 plus million people dead, not to support the cause. That guy is an ultra right wing freak. Doing what that guy is doing would be like going to a visiting a monument in honor of all germans killed in a war with an SS uniform or other symbols realted to the Nazis, or in their support. Since when is doing the Hitler Salute an act of protest?
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RE: Yasakuni Shrine On August 15th

Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:56 am

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 2):
Since when is doing the Hitler Salute an act of protest?

It's often used to "expose" a presumable nazi by "greeting" him that way - just not in Germany, where it would be a punishable offense.
 
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RE: Yasakuni Shrine On August 15th

Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 2):
Koizumi goes there, I think, to pay respect to those 2 plus million people dead, not to support the cause.

Um, I know. However, some believe that it is "to support the cause".

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 2):
That guy is an ultra right wing freak. Doing what that guy is doing would be like going to a visiting a monument in honor of all germans killed in a war with an SS uniform or other symbols realted to the Nazis, or in their support. Since when is doing the Hitler Salute an act of protest?

All over East Asia there is alot of resentment towards what the Imperial Army did during the Second World War. Every year Koizumi visits the shrine to pay his respects, and this generates lots of criticism in Asia, and indeed in Japan as well. Some see Koizumi's visits as legitimizing and even condoning to the acts perpetrated during WW2. And some of the protests do not differ from any other kinds of extreme protests around world. Animal rights-activists dressing up in bloody fur coats, for example.

Of course, I don't know what the dude in the picture is really doing, the only info I have is what I can see in the photo. And I made a guess, not a statement of fact, as is fairly clear in my above post. I just figured it was more likely that the man was a protester than a sympathiser. Of course, I could be wrong.

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