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Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:10 am

This happens to me rather often and sometimes it scares the hell out of me. Have any of you had your eyes open while you were drifting in and out of sleep and not been able to move? It's like your body is paralyzed but you are awake and your eyes are open. You try and move and you want to move, but you can't move any part of your body. You start to panic... then all of a sudden you are able to jump your body and move like you've been hit with electricity or something.

Does anyone experience this and what exactly is it called?

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:16 am

Not experienced it much myself but I've read up on similar things, I belive its because your body is actually sleeping although you (or at least your head is) awake. If you try and force yourself to wake up or force yourself to move around your muscles will fairly quickly spring back to life.

I will admit it is freaky though, once I woke up but couldn't see through one eye for about ten minutes now that scared the s**t out of me.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:20 am

I had it happen once, it was pretty creepy.
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:24 am

I know what you mean, and unable to speak too!
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:35 am

Your brain does paralyze your body during certain sleep phases.

Google it. Should make interesting reading.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:37 am

It's called Sleep Paralysis.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:39 am

Yes! Scares the shit out of me - feels like I'm part of a ghostly dream and the spirits have possessed me. Then I go back to sleep with the light on.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:40 am

Yep I have had it numerous of times. At first I got a little bit scared when it happened. But now since it has happened before when it does happen most of the time I know what is going on and just wait there until I can wake up.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:45 am

I love that feeling. Especially when having a dream about alternate universes.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:46 am

It's actually a completely normal phase of sleep, while you're dreaming your brain paralyzes your body so that you don't start moving around in your sleep and injuring yourself (Note: I believe sleepwalking doesn't occur during the dream phase of sleep, if it does then it is possibly due to a failure of the brain to shut down the body's muscular system). If you happen to wake up during this phase, your brain won't have enough time to restart the muscles so you'll feel paralyzed, but it is fairly easy once you're awake to give your body a jump start.

Never has happened to me though.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:46 am

When I was younger, living in Hawaii, we were told stories about choking ghosts. Hawai`i is very superstitious. But I learned from psychology class, it's just Sleep Paralysis. I just learned to stay away from having too much carbs and stuff.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:56 am

Sleep paralysis is more likely if you are already having disturbed sleep (such as insomnia over a period of days,) if you are taking a sleep aid (prescription or non-prescription,) or if you have a preexisting sleep disorder (sleep apnea or narcolepsy.)

What happens is that your brain is still partially in R.E.M. (rapid eye movement) mode; during R.E.M., the brain shuts down voluntary muscle control preventing you from acting out your dreams. Sleep paralysis happens when this biochemical switch hasn't been flipped back prior to awakening.

A lot of people have panic attacks when this happens, or because the brain is still in R.E.M. mode, can have hallucinations varying from "something sitting on my chest" to "a demon is sucking out my breath" to "I heard a voice talking to me."

No question that it's frightening - I have these episodes, too, especially when I have sinus infections (taking decongestants) or when I haven't slept well for a few days. Sometimes it feels like I wake up and then my body goes limp - but that's probably the sensation of waking rather than moving.

What I usually do to cope (and it takes a while, sometimes ten minutes, for my brain to catch up) is to concentrate on my breathing, listen to what's really going on around me, and figure out what I can start moving (usually one of my ankles or hands.) Then I just move that back and forth until everything else catches up.

Here are some links for you:
http://www.sleepfoundation.org/hottopics/index.php?secid=14&id=132
http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3131.htm
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:33 am

I've got Bi-Polar disorder, but it's controlled with medication. At night I have to take Xanax and Seroquel for sleep. So yeah, I'm taking sleep aids. Because of the Bi-Polar, I have a hard time getting "good" sleep or sleeping at all without some kind of medication, so maybe that's why I experience it so much. It happens at least once or twice a week for me.

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 3):
I know what you mean, and unable to speak too!

Yes! I know what you mean as well. You can speak or yell for help. You panic and want to scream but nothing comes out of your mouth.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:46 am

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Does anyone experience this

I've had it for years, and it can be scary. I will simply wake up and not be able to move at all.

Quoting Redngold (Reply 11):
narcolepsy

Correct, people think of narcolepsy as just suddenly falling asleep inappropriately, but there's a lot more to it. The only cure for me for sleep paralysis are the medications I've taken for ADD (similar to narcolepsy meds).

UAL, I hope you're getting your bipolar meds from a psychiatrist. Ask him/her about it, and what he/she recommends. Send me a PM if you'd like an idea of what I've been prescribed and has worked.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:12 am

yea I have experienced it a lot in the past year, I quiet enjoy it as it gives me a very comfortable sleep after.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:57 pm

Can you also be quasi-dreaming when this happens? I was trying to sleep last night and I "sort-of" woke up. I know this because I was staring at the window and the darkness outside, but I wasn't moving, I was kind of paralyzed. For what ever reason I thought there were bees near me (don't ask!), and all the sudden I JOLTED out of bed. And I looked at the clock. Sort of weird, so I am wondering if you can be quasi-conscious and quasi-dreaming, because I was clearly looking outside and at the clock, but still sort of dreaming.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:57 pm

I used to have it when I was younger, haven't had it happen for as long as I can remember. Pretty scary nontheless

I also take sleeping tabs to help me sleep, but these have'nt affected me so far

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 12):
At night I have to take Xanax and Seroquel for sleep

Slightly off topic but do Xanax and Seroquel have another name ? They may be called something different here (Trade/Generic) I have often wondered what group of drugs they come under.........Apologies UAL747 for the little highjack!!

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:01 pm

Has happened several times to me. Not able to move my arms or legs, just laying there and forcing my arms to move...
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:21 pm

It's happened to me a few times. I guess the first couple of times it was a bit scary.

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 3):
I know what you mean, and unable to speak too!

But if you do manage to get your vocal chords working, nothing else is working so your attempt at "saying something" comes out as a godawful groan.  biggrin 
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:30 pm

I've woken up cold like that previously during the winter over the last few years, so I now have an electric blanket on all night to keep me warm. I now prefer winter nights compared to summer nights when in bed.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:31 pm

You are not alone! I've had this happen to me too, it's really quite surreal the first few times. It's an immense force and definitely scared the crap out of me! Sleep is a very odd thing isn't it!

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:37 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 19):
so I now have an electric blanket on all night to keep me warm

Just don't pee or throw up in your sleep...it could get ugly.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:38 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Does anyone experience this

Yes, usually on the weekend.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
and what exactly is it called?

Drug trip?

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:22 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 19):
I've woken up cold like that previously during the winter over the last few years, so I now have an electric blanket on all night to keep me warm. I now prefer winter nights compared to summer nights when in bed.

Perhaps we're talking about different things. When it's happened to me I've been perfectly warm.
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:28 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Does anyone experience this and what exactly is it called?

I have never had it personally, but one of my teachers has had it. He said that becuase of the slipping in and out of consiousness thing, he could see a dark shape in the corner. It sounds pretty scary.  Wow!

I think it is called sleep-paralyisis.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:57 pm

Quoting ABfemme (Reply 16):
Slightly off topic but do Xanax and Seroquel have another name ? They may be called something different here (Trade/Generic) I have often wondered what group of drugs they come under

Xanax' chemical name is Alprazolam, and it is a benzodiazepine.

Seroquel's chemical name is Quetiapine; it is an atypical antipsychotic.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:07 pm

I only remember one time where I was "asleep" but my eyes stayed open.

Seroquel is an SSRI.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:19 pm

Another fun thing is sleep apnea.

You simply stop breathing. I suppose it is rather like SIDS or 'crib death' but for adults. People afflicted with it, statistically, do not live as long. Since apparently dreams are just a story the brain makes up to explain what is going on around it (sort of like religion does) you frequently will have choking, drowning or asphyxiating dreams during an episode. It also seems difficult to wake up, even if you become aware that you are having an episode, and when you do wake up you dread going back to sleep.

No wonder we so love a good night's sleep.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:29 pm

Yes, this happened to me a month or so ago. These 2 kids were running around in my front yard around 1 am and I was worried they were going to go into our cars outside. They saw us and ran off, so I remained paranoid for a while. Finally I fall asleep and I think I hear a noise (probably wasn't anything at all). My eyes open, but I couldn't lift up my head. At that point I knew my body was totally paralyzed and I was not totally awake. It was like my body was too lazy to do anything I told it to do. This actually happened twice that night. Rather scary, but a pretty cool experience.
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 26):
Seroquel is an SSRI.

No, Seroquel is an atypical antipsychotic as someone said before. It may be prescribed as an antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication as an adjunct to SSRI therapy when the patient has not gotten adequate relief from trials of several SSRIs alone. Such cases are called "refractory" to conventional treatment.

There's a familiar case where a patient tried four different SSRIs, at different doses, over the course of a year, and did not get control of OCD symptoms. After a small dose of Seroquel was added, the patient got nearly complete relief.

In other words, a patient who takes Seroquel does not necessarily have a psychotic disorder. Its use as an antidepressant/anxiolytic is still "off-label" at this time, but with documented evidence of its effects on refractory cases, it's possible that the drug company might pursue official FDA approval as therapy for these conditions.

Strangely enough, SSRIs are thought to *help* with sleep apnea, perhaps by balancing the relaxation response of the throat muscles. However this would only be effective for very minor cases, not severe cases that involve hundreds of hypopnea/apnea episodes each hour.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:10 am

Funny how everything has names and is classified as a disorder.

I have experienced this a few times when I'm under stress. It probably happens to me once every year or two. My interpretation is that it is completely normal..


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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:36 am

I have had Sleep Paralysis for as long as I can remember. When I was a little kid, I was convinced ghosts existed, and I had the crazy idea that when I experienced sleep paralysis I was being "taken over" by a ghost. Crazy, I know, but I was eight.

I still get it often, once every two weeks or so, and it scares the hell out of me when it happens after all these years.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:27 am

That happened to me sometimes, but ever since it was explained to me about 5 years ago, I have not had it happen!

The way it was explained to me is: During the deepest part of sleep, the brain shuts down all non-essential functions like arm and leg movement.

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:41 am

Don't remember that I have ever experienced it. I would like to know what it is like.

Also I've read that you're unable to sneeze while you're sleeping. That function is being disabled so that you wont get interrupted while sleeping
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:27 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 33):
I would like to know what it is like.

Find a sadist to bind you up and gag you before you go to bed one night. When you wake up in the middle of the night and suddenly realize he's gone and left you there like that, it will bear somewhat close approximation.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 34):
Find a sadist to bind you up and gag you before you go to bed one night. When you wake up in the middle of the night and suddenly realize he's gone and left you there like that, it will bear somewhat close approximation.

Interesting....  Wink
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:59 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 27):
Another fun thing is sleep apnea.

You simply stop breathing. I suppose it is rather like SIDS or 'crib death' but for adults. People afflicted with it, statistically, do not live as long. Since apparently dreams are just a story the brain makes up to explain what is going on around it (sort of like religion does) you frequently will have choking, drowning or asphyxiating dreams during an episode. It also seems difficult to wake up, even if you become aware that you are having an episode, and when you do wake up you dread going back to sleep.

No wonder we so love a good night's sleep.

I've had that since my senior year in high school, although I didn't get diagnosed until I was 21. It pretty much sucked. My body relaxed more than it was supposed to. I guess some of you know how it is to wake up with a dry mouth, well things get kind of sticky in a dry mouth, just like you talk different when you first wake up. My airway would collapse (by being relaxed), and stick together. I would wake almost immediately and try to breathe, but it would take what seemed like 30 - 45 seconds before it would unstick. And this happened A LOT. Sleep Apnea wasn't really well known back then, I just thought it was just things being sticky. Since I wasn't getting enough oxygen, I rarely ever hit the 2nd stage of sleep. (There are 4 I think) I could "sleep" for 12, 15, 18 hours, and sometimes 24 and still not ever get a restfull sleep.

The treatment I recieved is called a CPAP. After the first few nights of trying it, I got a full nights (to me) rest in 2 hours. It eventually went to 4 then 6, now I get the normal 8 hours of sleep.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:36 am

No worries. They say everyone will experience it at least once in their lives. Redngold pretty much summed up why it happens, but basically your brain takes a while to catch up and realize you are awake.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 37):
basically your brain takes a while to catch up and realize you are awake.

It's only ever happened to me as I was waking up or, at least, trying to, usually from a bad dream (not that I get many of those). I'm always in that in-between stage where I know I'm asleep and need to wake up but haven't quite managed it.  crazy 

It's a damn good system. I saw some film of a cat which had had the paralysis deactivated by drugs. It went pretty wild as it was acting out its dream.  Smile
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:55 am

It happened to me several times. After you understand what's going on, the fun part is to try inducing sleep paralysis, or even better, lucid dreams. Have a look at these links:

http://www.dreamviews.com/
http://ld4all.com/

Like others said, it's normal. And if you can control it, it can become enjoyable!

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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:14 am

I had it when I was a little child, a couple of times... one time was pretty bad I woke up face down in my parents bed, I wanted to roll over but couldn move a limb. I think that I used to snap out of this by trying hard to scream.
It is scary, thats why i still remember this experience, but it doesnt seem to be uncommon.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting MEABeirut (Reply 15):
I thought there were bees near me (don't ask!),

Yeah, it happens.
I once woke up in the middle of the night, in darkness, and though that I was looking at a huge spider.
For some reason I did not feel any fear, as opposed to how I usually react when I see a spider... i turned my head the other way to go back to sleep, then my waking brain thought... hey you're not gonna sleep with that huge spider on the wall... but the "spider" was gone.
I turned on the light, trying hard to adjust my blinded eyes, then proceeded to look under every piece of furniture for that spider, and did not find anything, so I finally went back to sleep.
The next morning I realised that it most probably was an illusion, that spider-like shape was too big to be a spider Big grin .... I surely hope it was, otherwise that thing would still be in my room and procreating by now.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 36):
After the first few nights of trying it, I got a full nights (to me) rest in 2 hours.

So you got full rest in 2 hours?
Quite practical!
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:10 am

It happens to me sometimes, is a very weird experience. you cant feel your legs, u can see em, but cant move em.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:19 am

Quoting MEABeirut (Reply 15):
I was trying to sleep last night and I "sort-of" woke up. I know this because I was staring at the window and the darkness outside, but I wasn't moving, I was kind of paralyzed.



Quoting MEABeirut (Reply 15):
and all the sudden I JOLTED out of bed.

No paralysis, then? Not moving is one thing, consciously trying to move and being completely unable to is quite another.  Smile

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 41):
i turned my head the other way to go back to sleep, then my waking brain thought...

Again, no paralysis. Just sounds like "waking up in the dark but still being sleepy".  Smile

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 40):
It is scary,

Certainly disturbing the first couple of times. The last couple of times I found myself thinking more along the lines of "Oh, for... here we go again. Wake up properly, you tosser!".
 
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:25 am

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Does anyone experience this

Yeh!

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 1):
once I woke up but couldn't see through one eye for about ten minutes now that scared the s**t out of me.

Have had it too...

Last night, I was falling asleep, I kind of went asleep, everything was asleep except my eyes, and suddenly I heard a very loud BANG! My hamster had done something in its cage, and the sound of 'it' had magnified itself so much up.  Silly I got so very scared!
 
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Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:44 am

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 42):
So you got full rest in 2 hours?
Quite practical!

Yep, I had to figure out what I was going to do in my spare time. I had almost 22 hours to fill.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:21 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 27):
Another fun thing is sleep apnea.

Fun... until you start falling asleep at any given place and time... until you become an insomniac because your body is so stressed from not sleeping... until you start feeling like your mind is a sieve, because your short-term memory is shot... Sure, it's fun  grumpy 

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 36):
The treatment I recieved is called a CPAP.

CPAP has worked wonders for me, too. On the other hand, there's nothing worse than waking up at 3:00 AM with your cat biting your CPAP tubing, and knowing with absolute certainty that you will be having a bad day at work... Time to call the home health supply place...
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:23 am

Quoting Redngold (Reply 47):
CPAP has worked wonders for me, too.

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Quoting Redngold (Reply 47):
On the other hand, there's nothing worse than waking up at 3:00 AM with your cat biting your CPAP tubing, and knowing with absolute certainty that you will be having a bad day at work... Time to call the home health supply place...

Duct tape works wonders... unless completely seperated. It's a good thing I keep spares of everything - and that includes the machine itself. I'm too paranoid about not being able to use it.
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RE: Feeling Paralyzed While Semi-Sleeping In Bed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:31 am

I get it once in a while. I've had it a few times in my life.... its a very creepy feeling. And its amazing because you try so hard to move and yet you cannot. Eventually you freak out enough and the other parts of your brain activate and you can move again.......

Also, sometimes I go in and out of slee and feel like I want to control my breathing when i sort of drift back into consciousness..... and I feel like i SHOULD be inhaling and I am not...and I freak out and I have to consciously will myself to breathe. This may be a form of sleep apnea, I am not sure though.

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