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9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:42 pm

Five years ago today the world changed for ever. Five years ago today thousands of people lost their lives for no reason. May the memory of those victims remain in our hearts for ever

May the children whos dads/mums they never knew who were fire fighters, police officers and all the other heros on that day know that there dads/mums died while trying to save the lives of those injured. May the children of the victims on the four flights and on the ground that they never knew always keep them close to their heart


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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:50 pm

It's 9/10 but hey you definitely wanted to start the thread first, right  Wink

It definitely changed the world but what I hate is that all these stupid conspiracies which mention the loss of people and the grief as motor for their bullshit all really a disgrace for the victims and their families. And to all the lifes lost.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:52 pm

Wow, is it 9/11 already down in Kiwi?

I think we should all pause for a moment today/tomorrow to remember that awful day. Will A.net do something, like the thematic front page we had on X-mas?
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Five years ago today the world changed for ever

9/11...??? I didn't even happen for another 24hours...
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:09 pm

Quoting EHHO (Reply 2):
Wow, is it 9/11 already down in Kiwi?

Yes. The clocks there are very fast.

Quoting Jush (Reply 1):
stupid conspiracies which mention the loss of people and the grief as motor for their bullshit all really a disgrace for the victims and their families. And to all the lifes lost.

yeah I agree some of them have gone too far.
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:42 pm

9/11..... oh yeah that. Like I could forget withe the movies, TV show's and what not.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting EHHO (Reply 2):
Wow, is it 9/11 already down in Kiwi?

Yes its already 9/11 here in New Zealand. Its 7.25am now
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:41 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 6):
Yes its already 9/11 here in New Zealand. Its 7.25am now

Then wouldn't early AM 9/11 in US be 9/12 there?
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:05 am

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Five years ago today the world changed for ever.

Correction: your world. Don't you see, by changing our world the terrorists have won. I live no differently after September 11th.

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Five years ago today thousands of people lost their lives for no reason.

There was a reason.

Quoting Jush (Reply 1):
what I hate is that all these stupid conspiracies which mention the loss of people and the grief as motor for their bullshit all really a disgrace for the victims and their families.

The conspiracy theories are ridiculous, but to say those who suscribe to that thought process or those who research and develop them are disgracing the victims and family, is terribly ignorant. These are the people who question authority and ask questions. What is disgraceful is when one accepts what others tell them without challenging or questioning it.

What would the world be if we all took for truth what our government told us.


My sincere condolences go to the few families who lost their loved ones due to the criminal acts on 9/11. But we don't need to remember them everyday or even on an anniversary, for gods sake, I never even knew them. It does nothing but make us afraid and fear doesn't help anything.
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:10 am

Quoting SE210Caravelle (Reply 8):
There was a reason.

Do tell us your theory.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:43 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 9):
Do tell us your theory.

This thread will go non-aviation very quickly. Might as well move it now.

Shall we take theory or historical facts over the past 100 years...

The Middle East was carved up by western powers and handed over to families that could control and still be friends to the west.
After WWII UN creates Isreal and carves up Palestine.
This makes many Muslims unhappy and feel threatened by the west.

The people of these countries didn't support these leaders and had little choice.
Iran falls in an Islamic revolution
France offers asylum to the Sha of Iran
Iraq falls in a coup d'estate
Iraq and Iran have a war. US doesn't like Iran so we buddy buddy up with Iraq. But after that war, we decide we don't like Iraq either...Saddam is unstable (Rumsfeld under Reagan met numerous times with Saddam and even called him a friend of the US.)

Can't forget what led to the Taliban...
US supports a war against the Soviet Union. The US trained and supplied arms to a small band of "Afghani freedom fighters" lead by those who were willing to fight. The leader was a young Osama Bin Ladin. In exchange for Afghanistan beating the Soviet, the US had offered food, clothing, investing and help with establishing a new government. But following the withdrawl of the Soviet from Afghanistan, the US pulled out leaving a vaccum and hatred..betray. Islamic Fundementalists preaching jihad against the US come to power.

So do they really hate "American Democracy" and the "American way of life"? Who knows. Were they betrayed by western powers? Yes. If you were betrayed by someone after they offered help, would you want to have revenge?

It is amazing how the US can talk about Islamic fundementalists as the greatest threat yet the rhetoric coming out of Al Qaeda is just as bad as what comes out of the Christian Fundementalists in the US. Those that believe the US should be a 100% Christian nation and go around preaching convert or face wrath.

So...What is the reason? There has to be a reason. They didn't just wake up and say "We hate America...so let's fly planes into buildings." There are reasons for actions. We must understand those reasons and what spurred them so we can prevent them in the future. Some moves we make today could create major problems tomorrow. Do you think the little boy whose father is accidentally killed by a US soldier in Iraq will grow up respecting the US and its allies? Or will he want to seek revenge? He who grows up without food, drink, good housing, and infighting going to blame the religious leaders holding books or those with guns?

I call 9/11 the "Day of Unity" and believe we should all be united in showing the best that humans can show. The US suffered the brunt, but the world responded. It is a day of mourning, a day of rememberance and a day to be united as humans in the hope of understanding and peace on our planet.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:01 pm

As an American, and as part of the next generation of Americans, I want to thank all of you in other countries who have stood by and with us. Here on the east coast, it is officially September 11.

I still get choked up whenever I see the videos or even think about that day. I remember where I was (10th grade Algebra 2) when I heard about the tragedy. I remember the next day, looking up at a plane-less sky: No billowing white contrails; no soft roar of a high-flying 737; no buzz of a lower Cessna 172. I live near Washington DC, which typically gets a high amount of air traffic, and let me tell you: The silence was deafening.

I never thought I would be scared to see a plane in the sky, but the Friday after 9/11/01, two F-16Cs, fully armed flew about 500-1000' over my house, while providing escort to the VH-3s of HMX-1, the Presidential helicopters. To see those grey fighters, and to know, FOR SURE, that they were armed and prepared to fire, frightened me.

I don't know or care about how you feel about my government, or its actions after the attacks, but, for the most part, the free world has stood by and supported the American people. From the bottom of my heart: Thank You.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:32 pm

Excellent post Centrair.

Many of us are still reeling from this event. Strip away the politics, the jingoism and even the reasons for just a moment and what are we left with?
Humanity. The incredible capacity of humans to do incredible things is so easily overshadowed by the despicable harm we do to one another by choice. This particular event was a staggering reminder of that.

I'll never forget that day, and I'll never see the images without fighting back tears. And it has to be that way.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:08 pm

Quoting SE210Caravelle (Reply 8):
Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Five years ago today the world changed for ever.

Correction: your world. Don't you see, by changing our world the terrorists have won. I live no differently after September 11th.

Well the world did change for ever, weither you like it or not. The world became aware that terrirosts can easily do something as sick as what they did and how much the whole world was at risk. The world must carry on as before, even thou it will be hard for many, like the thousands of children who lost a parent or both of their parents, a wife, husband, mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, auntie, uncle, grandparent who lost their loved one, the world must carry on

Quoting SE210Caravelle (Reply 8):
Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Five years ago today thousands of people lost their lives for no reason.

There was a reason.

Because of a group of thugs who had nothing better to do then murder thousands of people who did NOTHING to them.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:28 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 12):
Excellent post Centrair.

ditto. so few realize, or even entertain the idea that the attack might have been a reaction rather than action. However, the ones that perished most likely weren't involved in the cause and died for no other reason than being in the US and in WTC or on doomed flights, and THAT is what is unfortunate. Welcome to my RU Centrair.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:59 pm

Few events are indellible in my own mind; I remember exactly what I was doing and where I was when President Kennedy announced the Cuban missile embargo, when he was shot, when his brother was shot and the last two space shuttle disasters. But...I can't remember the dates offhand.

I of course remember all of the above including the date of these terrorist attacks. And, I will for the remainder of my lifetime (barring mental incapacity), and I will for my lifetime thank the rest of those worldwide that stood behind the USA immediately after the events in a show of unity. Sadly, this has changed, but I will not go into that now. Kind regards...jack
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:03 pm

Thought maybe y'all would like this. Very poignant. God bless.



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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:10 pm

It's pretty freaky to think that, as a 9 year old at the time, I was sent home due to sickness. I watched it live on the news and then I knew my world had changed. I had heard of terrorists like the IRA before but never anything like this. On a single day in September 2001, many people's worlds changed. As I have said before, "God bless" to the victims and "God Speed" to the heroic firefighters and police that were killed that day.

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Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:48 pm





Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:40 pm

Got this song playing in the stereo right now, to me it´s spot on.



The Eagles - In a New York minute




"Harry got up
Dressed all in black
Went down to the station
And he never came back
They found his clothing
Scattered somewhere down the track
And he won’t be down on wall street
In the morning

He had a home
The love of a girl
But men get lost sometimes
As years unfold
One day he crossed some line
And he was too much in this world
But I guess it doesn’t matter anymore

In a new york minute
Everything can change
In a new york minute
Things can get pretty strange
In a new york minute
Everything can change
In a new york minute

Lying here in the darkness
I hear the sirens wail
Somebody going to emergency
Somebody’s going to jail
If you find somebody to love in this world
You better hand on tooth and nail
The wolf is always at the door

In a new york minute
Everything can change
In a new york minute
Things can get a little strange
In a new york minute
Everything can change
In a new york minute

And in these days
When darkness falls early
And people rush home
To the ones they love
You better take a fool’s advice
And tak care of your own
One day they’re here;
Next day they’re gone

I pulled my coat around my shoulders
And took a walk down through the park
The leaves were falling around me
The groaning city in the gathering dark
On some solitary rock
A desperate lover left his mark,
’baby, I’ve changed. please come back.’

What the head makes cloudy
The heart makes very clear
The days were so much brighter
In the time when she was here
But I know there’s somebody somewhere
Make these dark clouds disappear
Until that day, I have to believe
I believe, I believe

In a new york minute
Everything can change
In a new york minute
You can get out of the rain
In a new york minute
Everything can change
In a new york minute"


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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:04 pm

Quoting Texan (Reply 16):
Thought maybe y'all would like this. Very poignant. God bless.

Not a big John Stewart fan, but that was well said. I thought the best I saw right after that was the first Saturday Night Live show. They had several rescue workers on stage with Paul Simon signing and Loran Michaels and Mayor Rudy. When Paul Simon finished Loran Michaels turned to Mayor Rudy and asked if it was "ok to be funny again." Without missing a beat Rudy snapped back "Why start now"..? The place just erupted in laughter. Then the trade mark LIVE FROM NEW YORK...!!!! ....It's Saturday NIGHT...!!
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:11 pm

9-11 happened five years ago.

We will ALL remember it for the rest of our lives.

With that said, when are we going to let it go? We don't need media coverage all day every 9-11.  Yeah sure
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 26):
With that said, when are we going to let it go? We don't need media coverage all day every 9-11.

I think it can be hyped-up at times, but I don't mind it.

If its that big a deal to you, don't watch it.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:17 pm

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 27):
If its that big a deal to you, don't watch it.

I'm trying not to, but when all of our TV channels have something on 9-11, it's kind of hard to find something other than 9-11 hype on TV.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:26 pm

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 28):
I'm trying not to, but when all of our TV channels have something on 9-11, it's kind of hard to find something other than 9-11 hype on TV.

True, but I think most of the broadcasts are more than just hype. They know that the big channels are covering it, so there's no real push for ratings. It seems like a lot of it is just genuine reflection.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:46 pm

MSNBC is airing the Today Show from 9/11/01. I am not sure what emotions I am feeling right now, as I am in the exact place, watching the same broadcast, at the same time as I was then.

Who gives a shit what day it was in New Zealand?

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:50 pm

9-11 was horrible, despicable, tragic and sad for all the people who were murdered that day.

We've frequently discussed the consequences and the policies which had been connected with 9-11, but first and foremost almost 3000 people from many countries were killed on this day five years ago in New York, and the shock and the sorrow are not up for debate.

Many people are still suffering from the aftermath, and they need our compassion and our support. Everything else is a separate matter.
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:56 pm

Rest in Peace all those that perished and never surrender the fight those that remain.

Terrorism in all it's forms is completely unacceptable. Fight it to the last breath, no matter how long it takes and no matter how far the reach. Never allow another terrorist attack on US soil. Never allow another terrorist attack on our neighbors and friends soil. No mercy for any terrorist anywhere.

The world changed, the whole world changed, that day. Anyone that doesn't see that lives in a cave and doesn't get out - at all.

Salute to my friend Lacey Ivory, Sergeant Major, US Army, killed in the Pentagon that day
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:59 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 1525 posts, RR: 1

In my point of view,this is the best description of this issue i have ever seen .
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:08 pm

I will never forget the events on 9-11-01. I had the opportunity to make an internship in the US and just came back from New York a few days earlier. Back home I starred at my TV with pure disbelief.

On that day I realized that I became an American too. Today I am American again for a day.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:18 pm

Canada stands proud and tall with our American brothers and sisters, on this sombre day of memory.

May the world become a better place, from the deaths of all the victims of this tragic day.

Long live democracy.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:24 pm

Quoting Baylorairbear (Reply 30):
MSNBC is airing the Today Show from 9/11/01. I am not sure what emotions I am feeling right now, as I am in the exact place, watching the same broadcast, at the same time as I was then.

I know a couple networks are doing that. I had just woken up, turned on my computer in St. Louis, and someone told me to turn on the tv. As I had no tv, I walked down the hall to the lounge and turned it on. I still remember being completely confused and scared shitless. Did the first thing I always did in those situations and called my dad. He was crying. I can only remember my dad crying one other time my entire life. I went back to the tv where they had a caller on the air live from one of the bridges. She was screaming, "No, no! They hit the other one!" I went numb. Did not know what to do, did not know what to say, just sat there, quietly, watching the entire thing unfold. The second tower fell. I had class at some point that morning, so I walked over to Ritter Hall, put my backpack down, and went to grab a drink of water. They had a small tv on in the faculty area. I walked in, I looked at the screen. They were showing the site live. Charles Gibson or whomever it was kept talking. The first tower fell. I remember the feeling of my heart just falling into my stomach. I walked back into class and everyone asked me if I had found out any new information. I was the one who told them about both towers being down. My professor walked in, an Iraqi Muslim. He started teaching class like nothing had happened, and to be fair, he may not have known as he drove straight from home to school and walked to class. He started talking about how religion provided the basis for everything good in the world. Without thinking I blurted out, "What religion tells people to hijack planes and crash them into buildings full of innocent people?" He could see that emotions were running too high, so he dismissed us from class.

Here's how I could tell how much it affected me: I am not a fighter. I have literally thrown only one punch directed at someone other than my brother my entire life. I'm a freaking pacifist, for Christ's sake. And I started walking out of the building to sign up for the armed forces. One of my good friends had come upstairs to see if I was ok; she knows I have a tendency to internalize things, but she also looked to me as kind of an emotional rock. She literally held me back and didn't let me go, told me to think about it for a day. I'm glad she did. Not because I don't like the military, but because I don't take orders well and, as my dad told me, "You would hate having people dumber than you are telling you what to do and you would actively try to get out of there." But in those moments, I was ready to go regardless of consequences.

I kept being people's source on the news and people kept coming to me looking for assurance that it would all be ok. So this scrawny 6' tall, 145 lbs 19-year old couldn't do what he really wanted to do, curl up into a ball and cry, until everyone else in the dorm had been assured that we would be ok, that we would make it, that we would persevere, and that someone would be there for them whenever they needed. So then, that night, after a good amount of people had come up, talked to me, yelled at me, cried on my shoulder, then I could grieve. And I can honestly say that I do not remember another time like that and I do not remember crying so hard.

Anyway, y'all probably don't want this to turn into a "What do you remember about it" thread, but just felt I needed to share. Sorry about the rant. Once again, God bless.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:35 pm

Ah, Folks... 9/11 has always been painful since 2001, and each year ever since.

Loads, heaps of sorrow, sadness.

May all the victims of murderous terror rest in peace.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:41 pm

I watched an episode of the O'Reily factor in which he had Geraldo Rivera on, who made a comment on the flap that Ray Nagin started with his comment about a hole in the ground 5 years later. Geraldo's comment - I am paraphrasing as I do not recall his exact words - was that it was inexcusable that 5 years after no construction had started at ground zero.

The Twin Towers were a symbol, not just to the New York skyline but to America in general, something should have started there by now, even if only temporary, to show the strength and resolve of the American people. I fear the politics involved in rebuilding the towers have overshadowed the symbolism that they also have on the nation and not just New York.

It will be a major tribute to all those living and dead who suffered through this tragedy, the day when they see bricks and concrete going up for the new towers.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:42 pm

I just want to say, that I witnessed the whole mess live on tv, and that horror of seeing evil unfold on such an insane scale, is something I will never ever forget.

I have just seen United 93, the movie, and it just brings back the old feelings, it is a tough movie to watch.

It makes me furious, that Ayman Al Zawahiri just released a new video where he threatens the US of new attacks and encourage Muslims to stand up against the US. He is evil and all those that may support Al Qaeda and their global Jihad, be it passive aggressively or actively, are all evil as well. Evil as in the purest religious term known to man.

May we all see good instead of evil in the future, is what my prayer for today is about.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:46 pm

TBS (Tokyo Broadcasting) just did one of the best 9/11 docu-memorials I've ever seen. Naturally there was some focus on the 24 Japanese nationals who were killed in the attack, but there were also some features on survivors at the Fuji Bank and Shizuoka Bank WTC offices who have remained working in New York despite losing loved ones and co-workers that day.

They also featured a gentleman here in Nagoya who lost his only son that day, also an expat working in New York at the time. The only possession of his son's is a single finger that was recovered in the rubble after. It was heartwrenching. There was another 75 minutes of testimonials from various survivors and their family members.

Funny that I have to live 5200 miles away from American soil to get a proper television memorial absent of lies or deceit.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:49 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
Funny that I have to live 5200 miles away from American soil to get a proper television memorial absent of lies or deceit

Hmm was this really necessary?

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
Funny that I have to live 5200 miles away from American soil to get a proper television memorial absent of lies or deceit.

I don't think the American press is doing a disservice today.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
Funny that I have to live 5200 miles away from American soil to get a proper television memorial absent of lies or deceit.

 sarcastic  Waste of words.

Go here:
www.cnn.com

Then go to the Pipeline - you want a memorial without lies - go watch the unedited replay and keep the rest of your commentary to yourself.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:58 pm

Oh I remember this horrible day with sadness  Sad

I have been to NYC 6 times. And I just love New York City. It broke my heart when I saw the second plane crash into the second tower. Then I knew that this wasnt just a accident. It was an evil attack made by some heartless and brainless people who has no respect of human beings at all.

And it broke my heart too see following hours where the towers went down and people were just horrified. Even if its 5 years ago it happened I still shed a tear when I see the documantaries about 9/11.

And most of all it broke my heart to see how many people who lost their loved ones that day.
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:09 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 44):
Then go to the Pipeline - you want a memorial without lies - go watch the unedited replay and keep the rest of your commentary to yourself.

i cannot turn the pipeline off. they also are replaying the 9/11 coverage real time, and it is fascinating. i lived through this event on the street downtown--so i never saw this news coverage like most of you, and to hear it as news, when i was actually living it, is just bizarre. no other way to describe it.
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:17 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
rhetoric coming out of Al Qaeda is just as bad as what comes out of the Christian Fundementalists in the US.

that is rhetoric, the other is action hardly as bad
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:18 am

Quoting EHHO (Reply 2):
we should all pause for a moment today/tomorrow to remember

the question is, should we really. To me, 27th September is THE date. At 1920 27th September 1994 my brother died, and a few hours later came the disaster of the ferry "Estonia" off Tallinn/Reval. I have never been in either Estonia or Sweden, but I share the grief with people there. After the phone call from my sister in law I went by car to his family to settle and prepare things, and when I returned home, still rather shaken, I learnt of the terrible disaster of the Estonia. And in the political field, 5th and 6th of June each year are dates I hate since 1967. So that such dates depend on personal awareness. 7th December 1941 may be a date to live in infamy with US-Americans, but 28th December 1968 and 13th July 2006 are dates to live in infamy with whomever has whatever links with Beirut Airport.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:11 am

I remember that day as well... Getting to school to the news of a plane crashing in the WTC, with no details clear... then to the offices of the U.S. based company where I was working my internship, to find everyone glued to their PCs watching CNN's live feed.

I remember being there, stunned, watching in disbelief as the events unfolded... And even though I had no relatives, no friends, no one I knew (save for my aunt in Jamaica, NY, who managed to call early letting us know she was OK), it was heartbreaking nonetheless.

I believe this event showed us what extremes can humanity reach. Not only the "dark side"; but the outpour of support, our ability to stick together, to help each other, to stand up in times of trouble... And for that, we shall never forget.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:21 am

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Five years ago today thousands of people lost their lives for no reason



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 9):
Do tell us your theory.

There was a reason that much is certain. Whatever it iwas, its a stupid reason. No goal is worth the lives of so many innocent people.
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 49):
Getting to school to the news of a plane crashing in the WTC,

it was strange. First, our man for "technological services" was furious as the internet broke down, and I finally allowed him to GET OUT. Then I got into the internet myself and found out that news were that "a small plane has crashed into the WTC NY". I had to drive with some material to another location before getting home and step by step learnt about what happened. What made me angry was that the radio-people in spite of what was going on continued with their "everybody everywhere is happy about everything" programs as much as possible. And when I departed to that bar where I wanted to do some phone-calls to airlines in the USA I realized that I had to drop my intention, and was glued to the TV apparatus switched on right there. Particularily the 2nd hit of the WTC and that strange last greeting by Marwan al-Shehhi. How strange !
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:42 am

I was talking to a friend on MSN and we were discussing the events 9/11. She gave me this movie to watch.

It is about a little girl who lost her daddy on 9/11. It is a real tear-jerker. It just brings home the fact that it could have been anyone's dad, and that little girl will grow up without hers because of selfish terrorists She hadn't even started school l when it happened.  Sad www.ugoplayer.com/animation/imissyoudaddy_movie.php
I cried watching it.  cry  Let me say that I do not wish to upset anyone or offend anyone by posting this. I just thought it may be a good idea.

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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:03 am

The day that changed life as we know it still stuns me completely. My stomach fills with a sense of dread whenever I think about the awful day. It sickens me to think that people in this world can be so callous and misguided thatb they feel it necessary to take human life at such a massive scale. My prayers are with the families of the deceased. I found it strange today at school, as soon as I woke up within half an hour, I had remembered what day it was. Most students were shocked that it was the anniversary, blissful in their ignorance until they realised it. It made me realise that the world has moved on, or rather those who were not affected massivley have. I couldn't believe it. I was shocked and disgusted that some people had forgotten.
 
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RE: 9/11, 5 Years Ago Today

Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 52):
I cried watching it.

Moving indeed !

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