copaair737
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Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:07 pm

I was over in Wendover,NV, and was amazed by the sheer numbers of Utah license plates in the parking lots of the various Casinos (Peppermill, Rainbow, Nugget, etc.). For those of you that don't know, Wendover is a Nevada/Utah border town that is around 110 miles from SLC. Now, before some of you jump all over me for generalizing all of Utah as Mormon, you'd have to be a fool to believe that there aren't a ton of Mormons in Utah, and the percentage of Mormons isn't the majority of Utah's population. My question is, is Gambling a vice in the Mormon religion like other fun activities like premarital sex and booze? If so, how do these people justify their actions?

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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting Copaair737 (Thread starter):
If so, how do these people justify their actions?

No, Mormons generally don't gamble at all. Utah is 57% Mormon, which is a lot, but not all of those people in the parking lots are Mormons. More likely they're people who want to gamble but the Mormon influence makes it illegal where they live.

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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:41 pm

The joke, as I heard it from my Mormon inlaws:

Judaism doesn't recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah, the protestants don't recognize the Pope as the head of the Christian faith and the Mormons don't recognize each other when they meet in Wendover.


My mother in law once told me she was having a lemonade in the flight line snack bar at Hill AFB in Utah with her boss, a Mormon - who was having a cup of coffee. Her boss looked up and saw his Bishop (who also worked at HIF) coming up the walk and switched his coffee with her lemonade just before the Bishop walked in.

Mormons have many virtues but some of them do drink and gamble from time to time.

Speaking of out-of-state license plates I did notice in 2004 that the guy who go out his tape measure and set up a Kerry booth the legal minimum distance from my polling place here in Nevada did have California plates on his car.
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:53 pm

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
When Mormons wanna rebel, they drink caffeine!

Apparently that change recently, as my Mormons in-laws are now drinking Coke products, because its been deem okay.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
Utah is 57% Mormon

And decreasing steadily see. www.sltrib.com/ci_2886596.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
Mormons generally don't gamble at all.

While true, but when out of town, one does play..Why is Las Vegas one the biggest markets out of SLC?
 
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:02 pm

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):

Apparently that change recently, as my Mormons in-laws are now drinking Coke products, because its been deem okay.

I had heard this as well, and it has something to do with a Mormon recently becoming a part-owner or some other higher up in the company. Strange how thing like that work.

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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:11 pm

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Why is Las Vegas one the biggest markets out of SLC

If I'm not mistaken there are more mormons in Vegas than there are in SLC. And all the churches are in the wealthy white areas in Vegas - almost none in the ghetto.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 2):
Mormons have many virtues but some of them do drink and gamble from time to time.

But unlike real Christians - mormons have a hard time admitting they are less than perfect. Talking to a one is like talking to a bring wall - that cult brainwashes the constituents like no other.
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:22 pm

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 5):
But unlike real Christians - mormons have a hard time admitting they are less than perfect. Talking to a one is like talking to a bring wall - that cult brainwashes the constituents like no other.

I agree with you. While some Catholics I know jokingly talk about their times in the confession booths, Mormons will hardly, if ever, say they did anything "sinful" even if they did it.

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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:48 pm

Let us not forget that while someone may identify themselves as Roman Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or Mormon, most often do not adhere to many faith beliefs on a daily basis. Many rarely regularly attend religious services and many do 'sinful' things like have extra-marital sex, gamble, drink alcohol to excess, use illegal drugs and so on, in contradiction to their faiths. Some may look at gambling as a form of entertainment that is ok with their faith if done in moderation.
In a historical note, it wasn't and still isn't uncommon for Mormons to be working in Casino jobs, including money management jobs in western states casinos, including Nevada as they were often desirable workers for their religion's standards of honesty and solid work ethic.
 
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:00 pm

I find the 'square rule' is surprisingly accurate for bars outside of SLC.

1 patron
2 drinks
4 cop cars
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:44 am

They are good people but it must be like living in the old USSR for the very reason that "someone is always watching." When I walk out the door of Church, I live my life how I see fit. I don't need the gossip squad talking about me arriving home late. I don't need the pharmicist, who is a "member," talking to my Bishop about why I bought a 12 pack of rubbers.

My in-laws are Mormon and my father-in-law is part of some church counsel. In their fridge is a bottle of Bailey's and he drinks coffee. The shame.  Wink

They can't have caffiene or coffee but tea, diet Coke and chocolate are fine?
"We don't gamble in Utah" but we have Wendover, Mesquite, horse racing in Evanston, WY and the lottery in Idaho. (Go check the plates at gas stations in southern Idaho today. Powerball drawing tonight for 150+ million).

There is an old joke about why you must invite at least 2 Mormons to go fisihing with you. Because if you invite only 1, he will drink all your beer.

Very strange cult.

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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:44 am

I worked a contract on a ship with a Mormon once. When we started, he did not 'do' anything... three months later, he 'did' everything, including things I had never heard of......  Wink
 
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:01 am

My dad converted....can't find a damm soda anywhere in his house now when I visit.

Seriously I think the best Momon on Gambling story I have so far heard belongs to the owners to the Desert Inn in 1966.

What happened was that they thought that had a money maker. They had a guy who had inherited a lot of his pappys oil well tool money. He himself had bought his way into Hollywood, gave Katherine Hepburn the clap, set some world records with airplanes, and had a successful aircraft company during WWII. So the assumption they made was that he was going be they typical high roller, plus he was bringing a large group of people with him. And he wanted the top two floors of the hotel. So figuring that he was there to party they rented those two floors to his group at a loss figuing that they would make it up with earnings from the group gambling a drinking.

However this guy had a few quirks, one of them was the fact that he only hired devout mormons as bodyguards. As mentioned they where devout Mormons so no booze, no gambling and with the displaced normal traffic the hotel started loosing a lot of money. So the Desert Inn asked the group to leave. Instead the hotel was bought out by the party and they stayed there a number of years, with the millionare never actually leaving his room.

This story was later ripped off to be the background for the Jimmy Dean character in the James Bond flick, "Dimonds are Forever"
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 2):
Her boss looked up and saw his Bishop (who also worked at HIF) coming up the walk and switched his coffee with her lemonade just before the Bishop walked in.

Mormons are big on appearences. For example, I was surprised that even an sixtyish married Mormon woman couldn't give a car ride to a male college student, because it would "look bad."

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Apparently that change recently, as my Mormons in-laws are now drinking Coke products, because its been deem okay.

The word of wisdom (which the hot drinks prohibition is in) has not changed.
 
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:53 am

SLC is VERY liberal.
Just look at the nut who runs that city.
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RE: Mormons And Gambling?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:40 am

I guess it's different when you grow up near Mormons--what they get up to in their free time doesn't phase you. There was one of their churches right across the street from the high school I went to. You get used to giving directions like "when you see the steeple, turn left", and people from back east looking at you like you're nuts because they've never seen one.

The Mormons who deviate (like who drink, gamble or masturbate, or whatever) we always called Jack Mormons. Is that derogatory? I never figured it out. There were always just Mormons and Jack Mormons.

My 7th grade science teacher tried to convert me, but that's the only time I've ever been bothered by any of them, other than the odd knock on the door by a missionary. I told him I was a Theosophist, and he asked me if that was some kind of cult. I should have just told him I was gay!
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