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Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:14 pm

I was thinkin about taking a trip up to Singapore for 5 days or so and I was wondering if anyone can tell me if it is worth it and what there is to do. I'm in Perth, Australia right now and figure I won't be on this side of the world again anytime soon since I'm from the USA. Is the airport close to downtown? Hard getting around? Attractions, etc... Thanks for the help.

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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:22 pm

Getting around Singapore is really easy -- there's an excellent public transport system and plenty of taxis. The airport is a fair distance out of the city -- but well connected to the city by public transport. Is it worth going there for five days? That only you can answer -- Singapore is a city-state, so there's not an awful lot of room to add loads of stuff to do. I was there for five days last year (or the year before) and frankly I ran out of things to do after three days.

Things to do in Singapore:

Shopping
Sentosa Island
Singapore Zoo (one of the world's leading zoos, and probably the only sight I didn't get to see ...)
Night Safari (very much worth doing -- I'd do it in conjunction with a day at the zoo since they're next to each other)
Food -- great Asian food in Singapore! Roti Pratha is supposed to be a local delicacy
Changi airport is pretty amazing -- but I don't know of any spotting opportunities outside of the airport, someone else can probably provide more info

You can also fairly easily hop on a bus across the border to Malaysia if you're interested ... Johor Baru and other places are close. I haven't done that personally, so I have no idea what's across the border.
 
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Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:30 pm

SIN is awesome. It has its own roof top swimming pool/spa etc with gym equipment and provides excellent viewing locations.
 
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:45 pm

How far away is Malaysia on the bus and is it safe? I've heard the Zoo in Singapore is great along with the Safari and Sentosa Island. Thanks for the info so far and any additional places to take up a couple days would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:50 pm

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 4):
How far away is Malaysia on the bus and is it safe

I don't know how far away it is -- I would say less than an hour.

Malaysia is one of the safer places in the world to visit -- I've been there three times over the past few years, most recently to Borneo a year ago, and have always enjoyed my time there. I've never felt in any danger. Usual precautions apply of course, but I've honestly never had any qualms about visiting Malaysia. (FWIW, I'm caucasian -- frequently assumed to be "American".)
 
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:57 pm

Thanks Brenintw..
What do you recommend doing in Malaysia? Is Kuala Lampur to far to take on the bus? I'd like to see the Petronas Towers.

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Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:30 pm

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 6):
What do you recommend doing in Malaysia? Is Kuala Lampur to far to take on the bus?

If you're only going for five days, I wouldn't take the bus -- the return trip would take the better part of a day. I don't remember how far it is from SIN to KUL, but it's a good few hours. There are half-hourly shuttle flights between the two cities that would make a day-trip feasible. Of course the traffic in KUL might not make it feasible ...

The first time I was in KUL, I ended up hiring a taxi for a day -- it was a reasonable deal, and the driver was very friendly and showed me and a British businessman the city (we each had 10+ hour waits between flights). Unfortunately with the new airport, that's a thing of the past since the only taxis allowed to pick up passengers at the new airport are specially designated airport taxis and I don't think they're available for hire by the hour ... BTW, the new airport is about an hour's drive from the city center.

Petronas Towers are pretty amazing, so is the view from the Telekom Tower in KUL, and I think both are worth visiting.

As for what is available in the JB area near SIN -- I can't answer that, as I said earlier I didn't go into Malaysia when I was in SIN.

There's an awful lot of stuff to do in Malaysia -- Borneo and Penang are two places I can think of off-hand that I think are definitely worth visiting -- the biggest problem would be getting there as Malaysia is a very spread-out country. If you're going to travel by road it will take ages to get anywhere, if you fly it'll be much more convenient, but probably a lot more expensive and you may find you have to overnight somewhere. It all depends on how much money you're willing to spend and how much time you have ...

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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:40 pm

Well this has me doing some thinking. Sounds like Singapore isn't the place to go and I am on a limited budget since I am a student. Anyone else have any info?

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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:01 pm

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 8):
Sounds like Singapore isn't the place to go and I am on a limited budget since I am a student.

Not some place I would consider on a limited budget. I was there for less than 24 hours this week and almost went through $100SGD in that time.

Singapore is a great place to visit but you could do everything in about 4 to 5 days if you stretched it. I would extend the stay some if possible and see Malaysia as well. As has been said Kuala Lumpur is fine by going by bus will take too long.

Quoting Slovacek747 (Thread starter):
Is the airport close to downtown?

Not too far. Access is easy from the MRT trains for $2SGD IIRC and my cab from Changi to the Orchard Road area was about $15SGD.

Quoting Slovacek747 (Thread starter):
Hard getting around?

Not too bad. The majority of things are in the downtown and Orchard Road area. The zoo and Night Safari are further afield but right next door to each other and just a short taxi ride from the city.

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 4):
I've heard the Zoo in Singapore is great along with the Safari and Sentosa Island.

Can't speak for Sentosa (though it looks fun) but the zoo and Night Safari were kind of fun. I'd go again.

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 5):
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 4):
How far away is Malaysia on the bus and is it safe

I don't know how far away it is -- I would say less than an hour.

In good traffic. You have to be careful with rush hour at certain times or folks coming into or leaving for the weekend to/from Malaysia.
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:21 pm

Just got back from a three week stay in Malaysia & Singapore, travelling on a student budget. Mind you, I was staying with friends which made it a bit cheaper!

I did all the the usual things in Singapore: Sentosa Island, Raffles' Long Bar (watch out for peanut shells), the zoo, safari, food, shopping etc, and highly rate all of it. I really enjoyed the night safari, even though I've always been more into planes than animals!

You might want to pick up a suit while you are in Singapore. In the Chinatown district there are many tailors fighting for your tourist dollars. I got a tailor made, silk lined, cashmere wool suit for about SIN$300. Watches are pretty cheap there too (even the real ones!).

Make sure you flush any public toilets you use, don't eat on any trains and don't spit gum or your liable for a hefty fine or a whipping for more serious offences.

And, just so this qualifies as a post on a civil aviation forum - The airports there also make those in the west (certainly those in the UK) look very second rate.

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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:19 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9):
Not some place I would consider on a limited budget. I was there for less than 24 hours this week and almost went through $100SGD in that time.

How tight fisted is this... £30 for a day out.. I wish I could do that in new york ? I dont know of any place in the US I could survive on $50 USD a day.

Singapore is very cheap... Malaysia is even cheaper.

I just got back from SIN yesterday. Ive been there 8 times now on business / personal travel. For Asia SIN is the perfect base.


As for going to KL... if you want to try something different.. take the train, overnight train in super deluxe luxury class with beds, tv and shower is about £25 each way, or in steerage... about £7 each way. Train takes about 5 hours though.

Driving to KL from SIN takes about 3 hours + crossing the causeway at the customs point.

SIN is probably the easiest most vanila friendliest place in Asia. If youve never been to Asia before.. this is the most "western" friendly starting point.
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:44 pm

Dear Slovacek747

Without Prejudice

I would suggest, dump the idea and go to Malaysia instead. Malaysia is A LOT cheaper, offers more fun, more adventures and has everything (well... almost) that can be found in Singapore. Malaysian girls (or boys depending on your taste) are better looking too. Malaysian foods are definitely tastier than Singaporean, you can get authentic Malay, Chinese, Indian and Western cuisines at very incredibly low prices. (They copy the Roti Phrata from Malaysia's signature Roti Canai).  biggrin 

If you want to look at some animals, go to Zoo Negara haha...  faint 
If you want something Sentosa, go to Sunway Lagoon. Plus you can coupled it with Genting Highlands. So there's man made beach and mountain top theme park. All have same features, cable car, roller coasters, surfing at the beach etc. Plus there is a casino in Genting. Singapore has yet to build theirs.  rotfl 

Moving around the cities? Kuala Lumpur has the LRT, our answer to Singapore's MRT.

Shopping? There's Suria KLCC (beneath the shimmering Petronas Towers), Bintang Walk's Malls (Starhill Gallery, Lot 10) and Midvalley Megamall, to name a few, which are grandeur and enormous in size, which make any Ochard Road shopping malls pale in comparison.  eyepopping 

And more importantly, all are situated in and within the outskirt of Kuala Lumpur and cost less than MYR 10 (USD 3) for a single one way journey by bus/rail transit. About hotels with the rooftop pool and such, duh... we got lots of it and it's CHEAPER.

If you are looking for a third party reliable source about both places, go to Yahoo Travel and seach for both cities. Click on User's Reviews and you'll be surprised to know how many bad comments received by Singapore (I was surprised too).  boggled 

A bit aviation related statements so that the post eligible to be posted in the Civil Aviation forum, MH is superior than SQ  fluffy  and everyone is so jealous about KUL that they try to degrade such a masterpiece beautiful airport by all means whatsoever.  duck 

Just in case you still want to go to Singapore (despite everything that have been revealed), the bus journey from Singapore to Kuala Lumpur will take approximately 5 hours and cost about MYR 70 (USD 20) for a one way journey. It is on a very comfortable 'C Class' luxury coaches. The buses even have their own FAs (stewardesses/hostesses, to be precise). Flying will take less than an hour but pricier. Only MH and SQ (both are Skytrax's 5 Star Carriers) operate the KUL-SIN route. Very exclusive.  airplane 

Last but not least, I do love Singapore and it will always have a special place in my heart.  hearts 
 
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:52 pm

English is also widely spoken in Malaysia.

I would take the bus/train up to KL and spend a couple of days there and return perhaps on the other (bus or train) for a couple of days in Singapore. The day train (in either direction) although slow gives a brilliant insight into the Malaysian countryside which the motorway now unfortunately bypasses. If you like you could stop off in Melaka or Malacca which is 2/3 north towards KL.

Malacca used to be the historical hub of Southeast Asia ever since the Portugese arrived in 1511 and set up its (now defunct) port. This was where European, Arab and Chinese traders did their business between the 16th and 18th Centuries, until the British arrived and developed Singapore and Penang as alternative ports.

This was you get to see the 'future' (Singapore), the 'past' (Malacca) and the 'developing competition' of KL which is so evident in many Asian cities today.

As a student I guess shopping is not what you'll be after - although its worth remembering that whilst Singapore has a better selection of goods, KL still has the better prices.

have a good time.
 
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:31 pm

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 12):
Without Prejudice

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Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 12):
Last but not least, I do love Singapore and it will always have a special place in my heart.

I don't normally comment on non-aviation matters, but 9MMAR, that post of yours is the most hypocritical statement I've ever read.

Slovacek747: Wherever you choose to visit, I hope you have a great time.  Smile
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:41 pm

If you do end up in Singapore, do the obligatory dinner at Newton Circus. After that, stick to the coffee shops. Great food, good prices, and best deal on beer in town!
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:54 pm

Singapore is worth the trip, if nothing else, just to experience it. Singapore in itself is something you have to see it to believe it. Nothing else in the World compares to it. There is enough to keep you busy for 5 days, just don't try to do everything at once. Take it slow. If you do have an extra day or so, rather than go all the way to KL, take a day trip by bus to Malacca (or overnight there), if you're even remotely interested in History. SIN is also worth a looksie. Get a day pass to use the pool and spend a few hours at the airport.

Of course, for me personally, Bangkok is my all time favorite city in Asia. I'd never choose Singapore over Bangkok, but you asked about Singapore  Smile
 
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Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:50 pm

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 16):
Of course, for me personally, Bangkok is my all time favorite city in Asia. I'd never choose Singapore over Bangkok, but you asked about Singapore

Yeah, "without prejudice" I'd choose Bangkok, too!

Ha ha ha - they're all great cities. Pick one and try it. Come back to the others, they'll be here for a long while.
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Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:07 pm

Don't forget to try the Black Pepper Crab while in Singapore - its really awesome.

Singapore is pretty small so 3-4 days will be enough to see most attractions and take the short T7 hop with SQ in F to KUL to see the Petronas Towers  Smile
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RE: Singapore Question

Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 4):
is it safe?

I could not think of a safer large city anywhere in the world like Singapore. Have a good trip.
 
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RE: Singapore Question

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:18 am

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 11):
How tight fisted is this... £30 for a day out.. I wish I could do that in new york ? I dont know of any place in the US I could survive on $50 USD a day.

$75USD/100SGD a day for me is no big deal so I wouldn't consider myself tight fisted. For a starving student like he professes to be that much a day could be a problem.

$50 a day in the US? It can be done if you try.
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RE: Singapore Question

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:41 pm

You could go perhaps to Sim Lim Square and spend your money on electronics.  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Singapore Question

Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:46 pm

Thanks for the advice everyone.. keep it coming.. I could probably spend on average a $100 US dollars a day and more if something was worth it. I've gotten some great opinions so far and really appreciate it. I'd like to experience as much as I can since I probably won't be over here again for a while. Tell me if this sounds reasonable...

Start out in Singapore for 2-3 days (Airfare to SIN from PER is cheaper than to other southeast asian countries) and then bus over to Kuala Lampur for another 2-3 days before headin back to SIN to catch my flight. That will allow me to experience some of both worlds... What is the name of the bus that goes from Singapore to Kuala Lampur and back and where to you catch it from? Thanks everyone and keep the comments coming.

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