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Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:13 am

Well this is an interesting turn of events if you ask me. Despite Pakistan saying that would/will not allow US troops to operate within thier borders, Bush said if there was solid intelligence on OBLs location in Pakistan, Bush Said: "we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."

But Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, told reporters Wednesday at the United Nations that his government would oppose any U.S. action in its territory.
"We wouldn't like to allow that at all. We will do it ourselves," he said

I have long bashed Bush for his lack of getting OBL, I wonder if this will help, and what would be the possible backlash from A. the international community, and more importantly..B. the Pakistani people. Your thoughts?


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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:14 am

We shouldn't send troops in without permission, but this quote:

Quoting Bushpilot (Thread starter):
We will do it ourselves

is hysterical at best, lying at worst.

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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:46 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Thread starter):
Despite Pakistan saying that would/will not allow US troops to operate within thier borders,

Yeah right  Yeah sure
When the puppet master demands something the puppet gives it to him. Until that changes there will be no 'need for democracy' in Pakistan. Unless Busharraf is ousted somehow and then... I hope things turn out fine. Unless the US pushes it too much, my understanding (though I haven't been to Pakistan in about 4 years) is that Pakistanis have had enough, if pushed too much, remember what happened to the Shah in Iran.

BTW Pakistan has (especially now) a huge (both print and tv) media which is very independent and its a joke when they say US has no presence in Pakistan, other than the military there are dozens of cases of CIA operative in some cases operating independently doing just about all they want. I wouldn't be surprised of secret prisons in Pakistan operated by the US with no constraints put by Pakistan.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:32 am

An earlier article also stated that Pakistan has made peace with the taliban type tribals in the region where OBL is thought to be hiding. Supposdedly, according to the Pakistani President, this does not include immunity for OBL but given that the Pakistani army no longer patrols the region it is immunity by any other name. I agree with the President, if solid, incontrivertible evidence surfaced as to his whereabouts, a snatch an grab would be on order for the day.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Thread starter):
"we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."

Didn't Bush once say OBL doesn't matter anymore?
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Thread starter):
Bush said if there was solid intelligence on OBLs location in Pakistan, Bush Said: "we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."

I'd be behind him 100%, but he damn well better make sure the intel isn't as "good" as it was for Iraq.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:41 am

I think it'd be worth it to get the man. And I doubt that Pakistan would really oppose if it really came down to it and the intel was shown to be reliable.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:20 pm

Quoting Bushpilot (Thread starter):
But Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, told reporters Wednesday at the United Nations that his government would oppose any U.S. action in its territory.
"We wouldn't like to allow that at all. We will do it ourselves," he said

Ok, fine. We'll hold you to that. If we find out where he is, we'll tell you. And then you'll have to go and get him. You get one shot. If you don't act, or act and fail, then we'll do what we have to do.

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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:22 pm

If he was going to do it, he would have (should have?) done it already.

Tell the truth I do hope there are some deep ops type operating in Pakistan.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:54 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
Tell the truth I do hope there are some deep ops type operating in Pakistan.

If Busharraf falls, you'll hear about them with proof, until then, don't say it out so loud.

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
We'll hold you to that.

Apparently you are holding his hands making him do all the stuff, why arn't you happy?? It can only get worse from here.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 6):
and the intel was shown to be reliable.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
better make sure the intel isn't as "good" as it was for Iraq.

And may I remind of the forgotten incident where the US had solid intel about Al Qaeda # 2 being in a border village on the Pakistan side. At the time Pakistan had more than 80000 troops in the region and: What the puppet master decided to do?? It decided it doesn't need the puppet for this one, went ahead with missiles/bombs, blowing a few homes killing dozens of innocent people in the process. Al Qaeda # 2 wasn't there at the time, maybe a few of them were killed as well and Pakistan said it wasn't given any intel in the area where it could have even caught them alive.

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 3):
An earlier article also stated that Pakistan has made peace with the taliban type tribals in the region where OBL is thought to be hiding.

And what did the US do in Afghanistan to oust the Taliban?? Made deals with the terrorist, wanted war criminal warlords and handed the entire country to them Kabul excluded, to put another puppet while the rest of the entire country grows poppy. I heard some where this time the poppy only in that country is more than 30% of the world demand. If only oil could be grown!!
And now we are hearing many of those warlords are actually funding the Taliban with the drug money.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:23 pm

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 9):
Apparently you are holding his hands making him do all the stuff, why arn't you happy??

I'll tell you why I'm not happy. It's been five years since 9/11. Osama bin Laden is still roaming the world free.

I have no problem with Pakistan grabbing him. But if they can't, or if they won't, then I have no problem going in and doing the job that needs to be done.

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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
I'll tell you why I'm not happy. It's been five years since 9/11. Osama bin Laden is still roaming the world free.

Maybe its because he wasn't chased properly. Somebody had to get Saddam...
When I look back to the time the US invaded Afghanistan, I see a lost opportunity. An opportunity that could have changed the world, when the entire world was in one mind and speaking with one voice. Imagine what could have been accomplished had Afghanistan was handled properly FROM THE BEGINNING, and I mean the begining of this conflict. The Afghans have been played with for far too long. I truly feel bad for them.

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
I have no problem with Pakistan grabbing him. But if they can't, or if they won't, then I have no problem going in and doing the job that needs to be done.

That is not the issue, you seem to have chosen to ignore the context of my earlier posts. While I'm sitting on the east coast like you, I understand and agree from where you are comming from, but the context simply cannot be ignored.... its been ignored for far too long already.

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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:40 pm

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 11):
Maybe its because he wasn't chased properly.

Wasn't chased properly? He wasn't chased at all. Our "pursuit" of OBL in Afghanistan was nothing more than a Bush smoke screen. He had one objective all along and that was to get Saddam. Afghanistan was merely used to give the impression we were actively pursuing bin Laden.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:46 pm

The Terrain & the local support in the Tribal Areas will make capture very very Difficult for any Army.
Mushy will not be able to allow the US Troops into the NWFP unless theres a very good excuse.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:22 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
But if they can't, or if they won't, then I have no problem going in and doing the job that needs to be done.

Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen.

And I'm sure that this time, the Pakistanis will be throwing rose petals at the foots of US soldiers - much like the Iraqis did.

Besides, Pakistan has no reason to want OBL to be captured. As long as he's somewhere, Pakistan remains a "US Ally in the War Against Terror" (or whatever rubbish they call it now). If OBL is caught, Pakistan once again turns into the pariah state it was pre 9-11.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:56 pm

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 13):
Wasn't chased properly? He wasn't chased at all. Our "pursuit" of OBL in Afghanistan was nothing more than a Bush smoke screen.

I got news for you bubba- we have some presence in Pakistan already, and they have very much been tracking him for a long time.

We need to cut the head off the snake AND continue every other simultaneous measure of anti-terrorism efforts without cessation.

But yeah, we've got operators out there--and they don't really seem too concerned about national borders and such.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:28 pm

Just last week at his press conference Bush said he wouldn't do this because Pakistan was a sovereign nation...

I laughed then, because, well...so was Iraq. The only difference is, Pakistan actually has weapons of mass destruction.

And now he changes his story...When are we going to learn?  Yeah sure

Quoting AirCop (Reply 4):
Didn't Bush once say OBL doesn't matter anymore?

No, he said he's 'not concerned' with him. But the elections ARE coming up.  Wink

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
Ok, fine. We'll hold you to that. If we find out where he is, we'll tell you. And then you'll have to go and get him. You get one shot. If you don't act, or act and fail, then we'll do what we have to do.

Exactly, that's the way it should be.

But, as I hope we're all aware, save the ones w/ their heads still up Bush's ass...This is all just talk for the elections, and nothing will come of it.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:04 am

Musharraf is standing on one leg right now, to take any sort of Military action inside of Pakistand would be utterly stupid. As much as I dislike Mushaffar, he is necessary. If he was ousted, and his replacement is an Islamic hardliners, it would be very bad of India, the US, and many others. Pakistan for the timebeing needs a moderate (in the sense of Islamic values) dictator, and Musharraf is it.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:59 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 16):
I got news for you bubba- we have some presence in Pakistan already, and they have very much been tracking him for a long time.

But they're not military.

In fact, there have been endless complaints by US forces in Afghanistan how they are prohibited from crossing the border into Pakistan, and how while pursuing Taliban fighters, they are mandated to stop at the border even though they have the enemy within sight.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 9):
And what did the US do in Afghanistan to oust the Taliban??

Do you actually read the news or just make it up as you go along. Do you remember that littel thing they had called an "election" a while ago? The one where Afghani's turned out in record numbers to vote? Have you read where Afghan girls can now go to school and no longer have to be dressed head to toe in a burlap sack? They grow opium poppies because people, in part, in this country can't contain their weaknesses. If there was no demand there would not be any reason for the supply.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Thread starter):
Well this is an interesting turn of events if you ask me. Despite Pakistan saying that would/will not allow US troops to operate within thier borders, Bush said if there was solid intelligence on OBLs location in Pakistan, Bush Said: "we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."

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Haven't US troops "chased" for OBL in the past already ? Weren't there statements like "he is to be caught ...." ? Haven't there been news about US-troops "in close pursuit" of him in the past ?
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"solid intelligence" ? haven't we heard that before ? Whatever solid intelligence, I am still convinced that OBL, in spite of all such reports, is NOT in that region but in Western Europe.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):
is NOT in that region but in Western Europe.

Perhaps France? It would make sense.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 3):
I agree with the President, if solid, incontrivertible evidence surfaced as to his whereabouts, a snatch an grab would be on order for the day.

Yeah but we have been down this road before, and seen it fail miserably. I want OBL just as much as the next guy, if we catch him alive I think he should have to run the gauntlet through a Manhattan firehall, if he manages to climb the firepole while the firefighers hit him with pool balls in tube socks he is fre to walk. I think he deserves the worse sharia law has to offer.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 4):
Didn't Bush once say OBL doesn't matter anymore?

He did say that, it was shortly before the Iraq invasion, he said he really doesnt think about OBL that much and that he has been marginalized and is ineffective.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
I'd be behind him 100%, but he damn well better make sure the intel isn't as "good" as it was for Iraq.

I agree Falcon, if we know 1000percent he is there, then lets do it, but my biggest problem with Bush is that I simply cannot trust him. There was a period in my life where I thought I could trust the PotUS(whoever it was) to make the right decision, but GWB has turned me into a cynic about our executive branch. I dont trust anything I listen to from him, and only half of the actions I see him take.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
If he was going to do it, he would have (should have?) done it already.

I see this once again as an all talk no action sort of thing by GWB. If someone was going to turn him in, it would have been done already. There is a $50mUSD reward for him, whoever is close with him is very very loyal. Because most of us would turn in our mothers for that sort of cash, I wouldnt turn in mom, but all of my cousins except one.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 14):
Mushy will not be able to allow the US Troops into the NWFP unless theres a very good excuse.
regds

Hawk, could you envision a scenario where this might actually happen?

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):
I am still convinced that OBL, in spite of all such reports, is NOT in that region but in Western Europe.

Hmmm intesting, any reasoning for this? I am quite curious as to this theory.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:51 am

This is an example of the media trying to generate its own news. I happened to catch that interview of Blitzer interviewing the president. Blitzer posed the question in such a way that either way, it'd generate a controversy. If he said "no" he go through Pakastani government channels: BUZZ Wrong answer. But he said he'd go directly after him: BUZZ Wrong answer. The question shouldn't have been asked or the president shouldn't have answered it.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:02 am

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 22):
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):
is NOT in that region but in Western Europe.
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Perhaps France? It would make sense.

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Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 23):
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):
I am still convinced that OBL, in spite of all such reports, is NOT in that region but in Western Europe.
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Hmmm intesting, any reasoning for this? I am quite curious as to this theory.

Reasoning yes, but admittedly ABSOLUTY NO proof or evidence or anything. It may be remembered that Hani Hanjour, Marwan al-Shehhi and the al-Ghamdi brothers (4 out of 19) in autumn 2000 had their lodgings in hotels just west of Queensway in London W2. It may be remembered that Dr al-Zawahiri is British educated, it may be remembered that OBL in his younger days toured Western Europe by BenLadn owned cars. It may be recorded that he apparently is in need of fairly frequent kidney-dialysis. It also is noteworthy that many of his tapes reached the world through European offices of Arab newspapers.
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All this of course is NOT conclusive evidence in any way. But all things together result in a big likeliness of his real whereabouts. Everybody knows that you can put slide projections onto a wall and it of course also is possible to put slide and film projections onto the side of a mountain. Interesting is that all the "sightings" of him recorded in Afghanistan and Pakistan talk about people having seen him above in the mountains.
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heaps of "reasoning" whenever of course no evidence. Unless you take the lack of result of earlier US actions as a kind of "negative/reciproke" evidence.
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To be realistic, the point is to catch a villain who is a millionaire or billionaire, but whatever the real figures an enormously rich businessman. And there are frequent flights between Islamabad and London ........................
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:13 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 25):

Thanks for the response, I admittedly had not thought of several of those tidbits of info. I was aware of the exsisting medical conditions etc, but do you really think he could do anything but remain in isolation if he were to be in western Europe. I cannot imagine him going 20minutes without being recognized there, even if he shaved his beard, he is still a 6ft 6in arab man which I would spot a mile away if I was in a large city or especially a smaller town. With the amount of BS that comes both out of the government and the media contributing to it, who knows where he really is. One can do quite a bit of work in terms of thier disguise, but you cannot change your height. Someone as tall as an NBA player stands out.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 26):
he could do anything but remain in isolation if he were to be in western Europe. I cannot imagine him going 20minutes with

forget the false beard. If in Paddington/Bayswater/Queensway or GloucesterRoad/WestKensington in London, or in the Quartier Montmartre in Paris, he can walk around and does not look much different from thousands. That applies to a lesser extent to many other cities in Europe.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 23):
Yeah but we have been down this road before, and seen it fail miserably.

But this would not be going in with the intent of toppling a government. This would be a covert snatch and grab. Very few troops, no one staying behind. It's doable and let OBL howl all he wants that he was on the Pakistani side of the border.
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:17 am

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 28):
But this would not be going in with the intent of toppling a government. This would be a covert snatch and grab. Very few troops, no one staying behind. It's doable and let OBL howl all he wants that he was on the Pakistani side of the border.

I am not talking about toppling a government, that would be an unthinkable approach, the evidence of Pakistan actually having WMDs is definate, we dont topple governments with actual weapons, we go after the ones who used to have them.
I dont care if OBL wants to piss and moan, where we catch him, we catch him. That is not my problem, I just remember a bad day back in 1993 on the horn of Africa where we lost a lot of good men, there is no possible way the US could realistically go in with a force smaller than that into Pakistan. Its one thing to try to do a snatch and grab and move to the outskirts of a city like in Mogadishu, it is another entirely to cross that terrain to the border.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:59 am

Quoting LH477 (Reply 18):
Pakistan for the timebeing needs a moderate (in the sense of Islamic values) dictator, and Musharraf is it.

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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:27 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 29):
I just remember a bad day back in 1993 on the horn of Africa where we lost a lot of good men,

And I remember a day back in 1980 when another bunch of good men were lost. In my instance it was due to a 4 year neglect of the services. In your case it was due to a refusal of the Defense Secretary, at the Presidents order, not to supply the troops in the field with all the gear they thought necessary to do the job. Not so in today's world. If the CIA had solid evidence and could show with definitive proof exactly where OBL was, I have no doubt this administration would say do whatever it takes, use whatever equipment you feel you need. Just try to keep it as quiet as possible. I have no doubt that Delta, Seals, or Marine Recon could pull of the job.
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:35 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 16):
I got news for you bubba- we have some presence in Pakistan already, and they have very much been tracking him for a long time.

Really? We've been very much tracking him for a long time? Gee, what are we waiting for then to make the capture. Hmmmmmmm? Perhaps some significant election on the horizon?
 
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:03 pm

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.


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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:20 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 16):
and they have very much been tracking him for a long time.

They're not doing much of a job then.

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 20):
Do you remember that littel thing they had called an "election" a while ago? The one where Afghani's turned out in record numbers to vote?

Yes, but look at the state the country is in now. The Taliban are growing stronger by the day.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 19):
But they're not military.

In fact, there have been endless complaints by US forces in Afghanistan how they are prohibited from crossing the border into Pakistan, and how while pursuing Taliban fighters, they are mandated to stop at the border even though they have the enemy within sight.

The US ARmy and the Rangers might not be crossing the border, but there are operators in country. Might not be engaging the enemy, but they're implanted.

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 32):
Really? We've been very much tracking him for a long time? Gee, what are we waiting for then to make the capture. Hmmmmmmm? Perhaps some significant election on the horizon?

Ah yes, the predictable conspiracy theorists come out of the woodwork now. We heard all this stuff in 2004...
 
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 35):
Might not be engaging the enemy, but they're implanted.

So what are they waiting for - Christmas ? Or the elections...  Wink
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:30 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 36):
So what are they waiting for - Christmas ? Or the elections...

I don't know. And I didn't say they had OBL, I said they were tracking him, trying to find him. But it would be a very interesting and profound thing if the Pakistanis captured him and not the Americans, especially if it were orchestrated as such....major ripple effect.

I don't know where OBL is, and couldn't begin to speculate why we don't have him yet.

But I do know that there are men--and I thank God for them every day--that are willing to go into literally some of the most remote territory on this planet, knowing that they are on their own, and try to find him, all while gathering intel, etc.
 
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 37):
I don't know. And I didn't say they had OBL, I said they were tracking him, trying to find him. But it would be a very interesting and profound thing if the Pakistanis captured him and not the Americans, especially if it were orchestrated as such....major ripple effect.

That would be the optimal outcome, it's true. Good for both sides.

Quoting Slider (Reply 37):
But I do know that there are men--and I thank God for them every day--that are willing to go into literally some of the most remote territory on this planet, knowing that they are on their own, and try to find him, all while gathering intel, etc.

It's got to be very dangerous - the tribal territories in Pakistan are not exactly renowned for the rule of law.
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RE: Bush Says He Would Send Troops To Pakistan For OBL

Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:29 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 23):
Mushy will not be able to allow the US Troops into the NWFP unless theres a very good excuse.
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Hawk, could you envision a scenario where this might actually happen

When Mushy can tell the People of Pakistan how the US Help is needed after the Taliban have attacked its Citizens..... Smile
Guess when.
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