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Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:35 pm

One of my lady friends was in the market for a new car. The car she drove is a 1998 Ford Mustang GT Convertible. Great car and all but she has kids gosh I hope I am not the daddy and her little kids are getting bigger and were in the market for a larger family oriented vehicle. She was considering a BMW X3, Lexus RX-series and Mercedes M-class.

She is so fortunate to have me as a friend. I suggested that we go to the nearest Dodge dealership to look at the Dodge Magnum station wagon. I was surprised that she fell in love with the car! I’d thought she would hate the car but I felt that she should at least take a look at it. She loved the power and performance that she was accustomed to with her beautiful Ford Mustang. The Dodge Magnum is the next logical choice of vehicle from a Mustang if you have children.
I had suggested just looking at the base V-6 model but she went for the HEMI powered V8 instead.
$22K out the door for a 5.7 V8 HEMI!  Cool

I am proud that I have talked a potential SUV buyer out of buying one. Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

I hope someone from Ford is reading these forums!
They need to compete in this market.


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Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:38 pm

 Wow!

For a minute, I thought I was gonna have to call Crime-Stoppers or the SFPD!

 laughing 

As long as your friend is happy with her purchase, I'm happy for her . . .
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:42 pm

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I am proud that I have talked a potential SUV buyer out of buying one. Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

'Fly, we don't see eye to eye on a lot of stuff, but I'm in total agreement here. Americans need to re-discover stationwagons. They will comfortably seat as many people as any SUV, and don't have all the aerodynamic qualities of a brick like SUVs do.
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:49 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
For a minute, I thought I was gonna have to call Crime-Stoppers or the SFPD!

LOL!  Silly
I am too much of a peacenik and PC to commit a crime that would harm others.  Wink

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 2):
Americans need to re-discover stationwagons. They will comfortably seat as many people as any SUV, and don't have all the aerodynamic qualities of a brick like SUVs do.

I agree! If you factor in the horsepower to gas milage ratio (340HP), these are some of the most eco-friendly vehicles on the market.

I already read up on the cargo capacity with the rear seats folded down.
OK, OK, OK, I was thinking about my own pleasures when I suggested she buy this car.  Wink
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:35 pm

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I hope someone from Ford is reading these forums!
They need to compete in this market.

Tell Ford they need to look at sending some of their Aussie models to the US





http://www.ford.com.au/range/falcon/models/futurawagon.asp
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:44 pm

Melpax:
Excellent!  yes 
Is it rear-wheel drive?
They just need to put the gear shifter on the column. The emergency brake laver looks too much like a......oh....nevermind.  Sad

That wagon could be the spiritual sucssesor to the 1984-85 LTD LX (only availible as a sedan).
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:10 pm

It's most definatly rear drive!

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
They just need to put the gear shifter on the column. The emergency brake laver looks too much like a......oh....nevermind.

These come with a sequential shift auto. trans as standard, and besides, we Aussies don't much fancy column shift in our cars - we're too used to Euro & Japanese cars, which the Oz built models must compete with!
Specs for the base model (from the link above);
Barra 190 - 4.0L DOHC Dual Independent VCT I6 engine190kW of power @ 5250rpm and 383 Nm of torque @ 2500rpm
4-speed automatic transmission with Sequential Sports Shift and Grade Control LogicTraction Control
Anti lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)Intelligent Safety System including driver and front passenger airbags
CFC free air-conditioning
100 watt audio system with LCD display screen and single slot CD
Cruise control with steering wheel mounted controls
Front power windows
These are also made as a sedan & in a long wheelbase luxary variant also - The top model is called LTD!

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Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:15 pm

WTF?!?!?!  Wow!
That is a wonderful car!  yes 
Ford needs to bring that here!
I post more tomorrow!
I am too drunk to post anymore tonight.
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:29 pm

Anyone know where I can pick-up a V10 Excursion?  duck 
 
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:35 pm

IAH777:
Nothing wrong with the Ford Excursion as long as you go with the Powerstroke Diesel engine.
That can also be converted to a bio-diesel.  yes 
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:36 pm

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
she went for the HEMI powered V8 instead.
$22K out the door for a 5.7 V8 HEMI!



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I am proud that I have talked a potential SUV buyer out of buying one. Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

Erm...You do realise that she has bought a 5.7 V8 powered petrol car which probably does very few miles to the gallon and is poor on the environment, yet you slate SUVs, where our XC90 volvo in both diesel and petrol high performance models over here will beat the economy of that dodge any day.
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:56 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 10):
Erm...You do realise that she has bought a 5.7 V8 powered petrol car which probably does very few miles to the gallon and is poor on the environment, yet you slate SUVs

It's called irony, and you beat me to the punch. Big grin
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:09 pm

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I had suggested just looking at the base V-6 model but she went for the HEMI powered V8 instead.
$22K out the door for a 5.7 V8 HEMI! Cool

I am proud that I have talked a potential SUV buyer out of buying one. Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

A 5.7 V8 petrol crap-looking estate car, and it's better for the environment than (say) a 3.0 diesel BMW X5?
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:37 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
IAH777:
Nothing wrong with the Ford Excursion as long as you go with the Powerstroke Diesel engine.
That can also be converted to a bio-diesel.

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Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:05 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 10):
Erm...You do realise that she has bought a 5.7 V8 powered petrol car which probably does very few miles to the gallon and is poor on the environment, yet you slate SUVs, where our XC90 volvo in both diesel and petrol high performance models over here will beat the economy of that dodge any day.


As I have read that a 5.7 V8 gasoline powerd car or even a V6 I was considered I have thought what is the difference.
There are SUVs that are more fuel efficent than that one like the BMW X3
your friend considered before. Do they sell the Diesel powered version in the States ? Then you should think of the Lexus Hybrid SUV. It is definitely more fuel efficient than the Charger,too.
If you don´t like SUV´s but prefer a station wagon instead there are many that are more fuel efficient than the Charger and could run on Biodiesel.
VW Passat Tdi


The Audi A6 Tdi


the Mercedes E-class T-model (the Chrysler 300C and the Dodge Charger are based on the former model) availabe as a CDI


and the BMW 5series


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Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:23 pm

I'm surprised your friend didn't seriously consider this car:

2007 Honda CR-V



If you get the 2WD version, you get pretty decent fuel efficiency (23 mpg city, 30 mpg highway) and a lot of storage space inside when you fold the rear seats down.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 12):
A 5.7 V8 petrol crap-looking estate car, and it's better for the environment than (say) a 3.0 diesel BMW X5?

I was just going to say that. That thing probably gets the same mileage an H2 does.

I'd have gone with the Lexus. Unlike an American car, you can probably get a few thousand miles on it before it breaks. And it's better quality.

I don't like SUVs b/c they suck gas unnecessarily. But if you can find one that is fuel efficient, fine. But you pretty much defeat the purpose of not getting an SUV by buying a 5.7 liter V8.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
V8



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

yep, V8, really good for the enviroment :S
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:00 am

And what was your comission? After years of driving Dodges while on the job, it would almost take an act of congress for me to step onto a Chysler lot.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:28 am

Ooh, I just saw the fuel consumption on that car with that engine: * 17 city / 25 hwy EPA est. mpg. (13.8 / 9.4 liters/100 km) That's not too good. But it is better than an SUV. Why doesn't she take the V-6 version?

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 12):
A 5.7 V8 petrol crap-looking estate car, and it's better for the environment than (say) a 3.0 diesel BMW X5?

I don't think they sell the diesel version in the US. US laws need to be changed to provide a little more leeway for diesels. Right now, diesel cars are required to meet the same emissions standards as gasoline cars.
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):
diesel cars are required to meet the same emissions standards as gasoline cars.

With a diesel particle filter they easily do, don't they?
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:38 am

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 20):
With a diesel particle filter they easily do, don't they?

The problem is with US fuel, which traditionally has been not as highly refined as what you find in Europe or Japan.

That is why you see more particulates comming out of the stack of US trucks, and why our diesels have that "Clank" noise associated with them.

The only real problem with your actions Superfly is you put her in a "Dodge".

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Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:50 am

There are no diesel cars sold in the state of California.

Some of you guys really need to read more carefully. I stated...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
If you factor in the horsepower to gas milage ratio (340HP), these are some of the most eco-friendly vehicles on the market.

None of those crappy imports from Europe and Japan cames close to the Magnum in terms of horsepower and they only get a few extra miles per gallon.

Quoting FSPilot747 (Reply 16):
That thing probably gets the same mileage an H2 does.

You need to do your research before making post like that. The H2 gets 12 MPG, the Magnum gets 25.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 18):
And what was your comission?

She just asked me for advice. I gave her a recommendation and she took it.




Columba:
That Mercedes you posted cost significantly more than what she was willing to pay and the models sold here in California get worse milage than the Dodge Magnum.




Remember, she has a Ford Mustang GT convertible. Going to those goofy looking looking hybrids you guys posted would be a HUGE step down!
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 21):
The only real problem with your actions Superfly is you put her in a "Dodge".

LOL!  Silly

If Ford imported the Aulstralian LTD model that Melpax posted, I certainly would have suggested that. She laughed at me when I suggested the Mercury Grand Marquis.  Smile
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:01 am

Good Choice Superfly!!!! That car is built here In Canada too and I am a proud owner of one as well here is a pic of my car!!!



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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting AC777LR (Reply 24):
Good Choice Superfly!!!!

Actually it was her choice. I am glad that I recommended that car. That is a nice Magnum you have.  yes 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:24 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
The H2 gets 12 MPG, the Magnum gets 25.

An H2 is just a Chevy Tahoe with ugly sheetmetal.

Hummer stopped production on the only one of their vehicles that I would have considered, the original H1.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):
Ooh, I just saw the fuel consumption on that car with that engine: * 17 city / 25 hwy EPA est. mpg

I'll have to look, but I don't think that milage is that much better then what I am getting with my truck.

And I have a bed with my vehicle.
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Also this vehicle is better for the environment

My friend, Superfly, lets look @ some stats, shall we?


2006 Lexus RX 330 Front Wheel Drive
3.3L V6 223HP 19/25 MPG

2006 Lexus RX 330 All Wheel Drive
3.3L V6 223HP 18/24 MPG



2006 Dodge Magnum RT
5.7L V8 340HP 17/25 MPG

2006 Dodge Magnum RT AWD
5.7L V8 340HP 17/24 MPG


And I'm sure the Lexus is 10x better quality compared to the Dodge. And I'm sure the Lexus will last 3x longer - hence better for the environment. Can someone pull quality stats? I don't have my Consumer Reports handy.

And does a 340hp V-8 not eat up tires. Old Tires = kills the environment.

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
better for the environment

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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 10):
Erm...You do realise that she has bought a 5.7 V8 powered petrol car which probably does very few miles to the gallon and is poor on the environment, yet you slate SUVs, where our XC90 volvo in both diesel and petrol high performance models over here will beat the economy of that dodge any day.

He probably doesn't realize that. Just as he doesn't realize the absurdity of his Bush bashing and at the same time being apologist for Chavez/Castro/Ahmedinejad/...add any thug and/or dictator.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 27):
2006 Lexus RX 330 Front Wheel Drive
3.3L V6 223HP 19/25 MPG

2006 Lexus RX 330 All Wheel Drive
3.3L V6 223HP 18/24 MPG

I thought it was an RX 350 built in Canada's Cambridge Ontario plant (my home town) and a few of my friends work on that line Big grin
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I had suggested just looking at the base V-6 model but she went for the HEMI powered V8 instead.
$22K out the door for a 5.7 V8 HEMI

Poor Woman having you as friend... Thanks to you she got a vehicle which pollutes more or the same as the SUVs she wanted and in addition to that she will suffer from owning a dodge instead of higher quality BMW or Lexus.

Seeing your way of thinking now I can understand some of your posts in other threads.

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Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:28 am

Not my favorite car but for your ladyfriend's needs I think you struck gold!
Best of luck with her new rig. I hope she opted for the Sirius satellite radio. A must have in any new ride!  bigthumbsup 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:33 am

Usually when I hear "Dodge" I have to think of:
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:38 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

Dude, as a rule, underpowered crap is always better for the environment...

You americans dont get it  no 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:55 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 32):
Usually when I hear "Dodge" I have to think of:

Is that the "Bundy Mo Bile?" The honey looks like Peg Bundy
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:09 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I am proud that I have talked a potential SUV buyer out of buying one. Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.

You've got to be Friggin kidding. A HEMI.... just to drive her kids to soccer practice? Who the Frig needs a V8 Hemi in any car?

In this day and age of decreasing oil supplies, NOBODY needs a V8 for personal driving, let alone a Hemi monster. That sucking sound you hear is the last of the world's oil supplies going out an American car's tailpipe.

Let's hear it for $5.00 per gallon gas and you'll see how quickly a 340HP Hemi becomes another boat anchor.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:10 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 18):
And what was your comission? After years of driving Dodges while on the job, it would almost take an act of congress for me to step onto a Chysler lot.

You drove a Dodge Intrepid Police Interceptor didnt you?  Silly

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 33):
Dude, as a rule, underpowered crap is always better for the environment...

You americans dont get it

Im European and I wouldnt be caught dead in such shite as a RX330, X3 (One ugly lookin piece of crap) or a Honda CR-V.

The Magnum has god damn nice power coming out of the 5.7L V8. Heck I was looking not long ago at a Dodge Charger SRT-8 6.1L V8.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 30):
Poor Woman having you as friend... Thanks to you she got a vehicle which pollutes more or the same as the SUVs she wanted and in addition to that she will suffer from owning a dodge instead of higher quality BMW or Lexus.

Dodge, Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Mercury, Chrysler, GMC, Cadillac are all more reliable than BMW...what is your point. Read a bit before you speak: http://www.jdpa.com/corporate/news/releases/pdf/2006082.pdf

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 27):
And I'm sure the Lexus is 10x better quality compared to the Dodge. And I'm sure the Lexus will last 3x longer - hence better for the environment. Can someone pull quality stats? I don't have my Consumer Reports handy.

And does a 340hp V-8 not eat up tires. Old Tires = kills the environment.

http://www.caranddriver.com/longroad...gnum-rt-rants-and-raves-page2.html

You cant pull quality stats when both cars are relatively new. But why the hell would you want to drive an underpowered Target pothole joke of a SUV like the Lexus when you can have V8 340hp power..

Quoting JRadier (Reply 17):
yep, V8, really good for the enviroment :S

Better a V8 and a big car than a Punto, a 1.2L and death when you hit a pole.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 36):
Better a V8 and a big car than a Punto, a 1.2L and death when you hit a pole.

well, depends on wich speed you kiss that pole. However, I regularly drive a Ford Mondeo Ghia (stationcar) 1.8L V4 (yep, the normal car) wich is far more environment friendly then a V8 and very safe as well. I agree that safety is important, but a V8 (and in some cases even a V6) is more then overkill. Wich brings me back to the reason I posted that.

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Also this vehicle is better for the environment compared to the underpowered crap she was considering.
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:29 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 36):
Better a V8 and a big car than a Punto, a 1.2L and death when you hit a pole.

Someone pull out comparative road casualty statistics now, please.
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 27):
And I'm sure the Lexus is 10x better quality compared to the Dodge. And I'm sure the Lexus will last 3x longer - hence better for the environment. Can someone pull quality stats? I don't have my Consumer Reports handy.

Where are you getting this information? The numbers you post prove that the Magnum gets the same milage as the imports you were advocating?




Now everyone else, can you at least read for a change instead of flying off the handle over the title?
I suggested the 6, she went for the 8.
It's her money and I am not going to tell someone else what to do with there money.

A lot of you guys just don't get it. Read the frikkin numbers.

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 35):
Let's hear it for $5.00 per gallon gas and you'll see how quickly a 340HP Hemi becomes another boat anchor.

Just as the other 3.0 V6 powered vehicles everyone else here is advocating.





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You may hate my guts and all and that's fine but those comments are very pathetic and unnecessary. If you can't stay on topic, BUTT OUT! You may not like my political views but must you bring your political views to a non-politcal discussion?
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:34 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
. She laughed at me when I suggested the Mercury Grand Marquis. Smile

Superfly, the average age of a buyer or a Marquis in 70 years of age.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 36):

You drove a Dodge Intrepid Police Interceptor didnt you? Silly

Nope, Dodge Monoco's with 440's, next was the Dodge St. Regis and the worst POS ever build for police work is known as the Dodge Diplomat. The California Highway Patrol hasn't purchased Dodge since 1986 or 1988.
 
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:13 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):



Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
I am too drunk to post anymore tonight

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Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 41):

If he's drunk enough to say that he'll get off A.net for the night, he's probably drunk enough to forget that he said that.  biggrin  duck 
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Quoting AC773 (Reply 42):
If he's drunk enough to say that he'll get off A.net for the night, he's probably drunk enough to forget that he said that.

dang it, forgot my drunk chemistry, so that means if hes too drunk to realize hes drunk and is still posting will he be drunk enough to realize it? (ill lmao if anyone gets that)



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RE: Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 43):
if hes too drunk to realize hes drunk and is still posting will he be drunk enough to realize it?

Incidentally, GKirk chose that very topic for his doctoral thesis. Tragically though, his degree was revoked when he vomited on the department head during graduation. Financially ruined by massive student loan debt and no income to pay for it, Graham lives in the secluded hills of Scotland. He's currently working to produce clones of his beloved girlfriend, Dolly.  mischievous  duck 

I'm well aware that was rampantly off-topic but hey, someone had to get the story out.  stirthepot 
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RE: Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I had suggested just looking at the base V-6 model but she went for the HEMI powered V8 instead.
$22K out the door for a 5.7 V8 HEMI!

This is my taste in cars but that sounds like quite a deal! How did the $22k compare to sticker price? What incentives were on offer, etc?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
Now everyone else, can you at least read for a change instead of flying off the handle over the title?
I suggested the 6, she went for the 8.
It's her money and I am not going to tell someone else what to do with there money.

But I thought you were a liberal? (jab)  duck 
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RE: Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:18 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 36):
Dodge, Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Mercury, Chrysler, GMC, Cadillac are all more reliable than BMW...what is your point.

Is that why American car makers are struggling to survive while Japanese and European car makers come to their help? Welcome to reality my friend.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
The numbers you post prove that the Magnum gets the same milage as the imports you were advocating?

The Magnum itself is an import, it comes from Canada.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
You may hate my guts and all and that's fine but those comments are very pathetic and unnecessary. If you can't stay on topic, BUTT OUT!

I'm Catholic dude, I don't hate people, that's what Christ told us not to do. So... what's wrong about telling you that the car your friend got THANKS TO YOUR ADVISE pollutes the same or more than the SUVs she wanted to get? Sometimes it's hard to face the truth...

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RE: Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:29 pm

Quoting Photopilot (Reply 35):
In this day and age of decreasing oil supplies, NOBODY needs a V8 for personal driving, let alone a Hemi monster.

I enjoy a V8 as much as anyone (I am currently struggling with myself - I desperately want to order myself a new Mustang GT). But I have to agree with you.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 36):
Better a V8 and a big car than a Punto, a 1.2L and death when you hit a pole.

Don't hit the pole.
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RE: Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:38 pm

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 46):
Is that why American car makers are struggling to survive while Japanese and European car makers come to their help? Welcome to reality my friend.

There are plenty of European and Asian automakers which died or almost died if it was not for Americans..let me refresh your mind: MG Rover (Dead), Saab, Volvo, Land Rover, Aston Martin, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Daewoo, Suzuki, Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries), Mazda, Isuzu, Opel, Vauxhaull, Jaguar

Which American brands have been taken out of bankrupcy and pumped with money? Chrysler Group is the only one I can think of...and they had a turnaround before the Daimler days.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 47):
Don't hit the pole.

Sometimes you cant help it.
 
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RE: Superfly Eliminates Potential SUV Buyer

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:56 pm

From the Dodge website:

"And while the new HEMI V8 engine gives Magnum the most horsepower in its class*, it also does what the old HEMI would find unfathomable. The Multi-Displacement System (MDS) acutally deactivates 4 of the 8 cylinders during light acceleration or cruising. So when the semi's are only a distant memory behind you, MDS means up to 20 percent improvement in fuel economy."

Sounds better for gas mileage at least.

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