Matt D
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SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:12 am

All taken by me. All pictures were taken along the Olive Subdivision. Although there are several Metrolink lines in the greater SoCal area, this particular line is special. Not just because it's the closest line to me, but because this is part of the route of the Orange County-Inland Empire line, which claims to be the first and only suburb-to-suburb rail service in the US. It originates and terminates in suburban areas and is the only Metrolink line that does NOT pass through Union Station in downtown Los Angeles.



Thanks for looking.



http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/OL1.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/OL2.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/OL3.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/OL4.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/OL5.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/OL6.JPG

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:35 am

Thanks for the pictures. Those trains are the way to commute. The commute trains from San Jose to San Francisco were great, get on board, comfortable seat, read the paper, etc, no stress.
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):

whats the seating capacity for each carriage?
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:44 pm

Metrolink just ordered 33 control cars and 54 intermediate cars from Rotem of Korea. Information here.

They're also purchasing at least eleven MP36PH locomotives from Boise Locomotive. They're the same ones used by CalTrain and Metra.

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:26 pm

Great pictures there Matt.

But I'm curious about 1 thing tho.. Whats the fastest a train like that can run? It looks pretty heavy and I could imagine that a big train like that could derail if they were going to fast in a curve.
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revist

Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:10 pm

Quoting Clogman (Reply 4):
Whats the fastest a train like that can run?

Those trains are designed to go up to 100-110mph but due to tracks and grade crossings.. they usually go between 55 to 90 mph.

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 2):
whats the seating capacity for each carriage?

Seating capacity for those cars are between 80 to 90 seats.. some have more without the cab car.. and some are lost with it inside. Crush loads are up to 120-130.

If you guys have any more questions, just feel free to ask.. i know Metrolink pretty well and its counterparts around California and the west.

Also since Matt posted Amtrak pictures before i should metion that over my 12 years of riding Amtrak, i have done over 300 round-trips between San Diego, and the Los Angeles Area (Orange County, LA proper, San Fernando Valley)
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Sorry for the edit's i was tired when writing this.  Smile
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:13 pm

Apparently Virgin have started a new service from London Euston!  Wow!

http://www.tmfy.com/anet/pendolino_socal.jpg
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:17 pm

Quoting Nicksair (Reply 5):
Seating capacity for those cars are between 80 to 90 seats.. some have more without the cab car.. and some are lost with it inside. Crush loads are up to 120-130.

Thanks for the info Nick  thumbsup 
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:22 pm

Speaking of the cool Metrolink trains and grade crossings, there is no shortage of THAT mix here. So here ya go.

And thanks for the other info.

http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X1.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X2.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X3.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X4.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X5.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X6.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/trainstuff/X7.JPG
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:39 pm

Quoting Nicksair (Reply 5):
Those trains are designed to go up to 100-110mph but due to tracks and grade crossings.. they usually go between 55 to 90 mph.

Thanks for the info. I cant imagine a huge train like that go with 110mph. But it could be cool to see.
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:29 pm

Cool picss Matt. Big grin

Can't wait to be back in LAX again  Smile


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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 10):

Damn I cant wait to go to LAX...
You guys have some sweet trains over there. Why do we have pissy little things? One thing I loved about being in Canada was the big ass trains you have.
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Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 11):
Damn I cant wait to go to LAX...

L.A rocks Hannah Big grin

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 11):
You guys have some sweet trains over there. Why do we have pissy little things? One thing I loved about being in Canada was the big ass trains you have.

Exactly......



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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 12):
L.A rocks Hannah

That's the San Andreas fault line for you!

I find UK trains perfectly fine for long trips as long as you are in First. Our country is so crowded for the size that it's no wonder they are always so pact, at least in Standard class. The USA has the luxury of being as empty as Kaz's brain in comparison.  Wink
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:07 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 13):
I find UK trains perfectly fine for long trips as long as you are in First.

Well yeah, hence why we did the first class thing to london a couple months back  Wink


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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:11 am

Damn I cant wait to go to LAX...
You guys have some sweet trains over there.


Well don't go to LAX hoping to see those trains. Metrolink doesn't run anywhere near LAX. You will need to take a ride into OC, Union Station, the Valley, or the San Gabriel Valley to see them. There is a set of train tracks to the east of LAX, but no Metrolink. And I believe freight service was abandoned. There is, however, a light rail line down the median of the 105 freeway. But those are those namby-pamby Euro-esque trolley cars and are basically just busses on rails powered by an overhead wire.

Now if any of you want to fly into SNA to see trains, let me know and I'll be more than glad to show you the Metrolink and Amtrak hot spots including San Clemente Beach, where the tracks (and trains) are literally on the sand.

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:14 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 15):
Now if any of you want to fly into SNA to see trains, let me know and I'll be more than glad to show you the Metrolink and Amtrak hot spots including San Clemente Beach, where the tracks (and trains) are literally on the sand.

Would that be the same area that the "Sunset Limited" runs through the huge windfarm south of LA??

Some nice scenery out there when I did my train trip Big grin


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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:28 am

Would that be the same area that the "Sunset Limited" runs through the huge windfarm south of LA??

No. You are thinking of the Palm Springs/Coachella Valley areas that are in the desert areas well to the east of the LA area.
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 17):
No. You are thinking of the Palm Springs/Coachella Valley areas that are in the desert areas well to the east of the LA area.

Ah, ok cheers Big grin


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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revist

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:58 pm

Seriously...I grew up railfanning in California and then later in various travels around the states and Europe, grew to love them even more.

Of course, since moving to Japan, my rail quality of life has increased tenfold. I will never be able to get excited about trains in the US ever again.

and my area is one of the least saturated of all Japanese metropolises...

http://www.urbancharlotte.com/ptx/rosen%20nagoya.jpg

of course this is nothing compared to Tokyo

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:08 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 19):
of course this is nothing compared to Tokyo

wow how many different train lines are there?
 
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:49 pm

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 20):
wow how many different train lines are there?

I count 42.

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Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:23 pm

Not sure how many in total there are as I don't live in the area but there's an even better map of the madness that is greater Tokyo rail:

http://www.pbase.com/cityflyer/image/67738172/original.jpg
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:28 pm

Quoting Matt D (Reply 15):
Now if any of you want to fly into SNA to see trains, let me know and I'll be more than glad to show you the Metrolink and Amtrak hot spots including San Clemente Beach, where the tracks (and trains) are literally on the sand.

I should point out that if you fly into BUR, you can cross the street and hop onto Metrolink (and Amtrak, I believe) at the airport station. I've tried using Metrolink to get to and from work, but my irregular schedule makes it bit of a challenge--when will the MTA realize that not everyone works 7:30am-4:00pm?
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:38 pm

I love trains, but I just can't seem to get an appreciation for passenger rail in North America. It's just too freight-like and well...ugly. The exception being the Acela Express and the HHP-8 electric locomotives used by Amtrak in the Northeast Corridor.

I love the sleek aerodynamic mostly electric trains that are used in Europe. Whenever I'm in Europe, I always ride trains there. My favorite rail system by far is the Swiss Federal Railways, SBB CFF FFS.

I just wish there was greater use of electrified rail networks in the USA. I understand it is not practical on long intercontinental stretches, but it is perfectly practical on commuter rail lines like Metrolink.

I'm talking about sleek electrified commuter trains like this, the Siemens/Stadler-built RABe514 double-deck Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) used by SBB CFF FFS in the Zürich S-Bahn network. It entered service earlier this year.






When it comes to single-deck commuter trains, I think the Stadler FLIRT Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) is beautiful. It's used by SBB CFF FFS in several S-Bahn systems in Switzerland including Basel which uses dual-voltage models to cross into France.






Having said all that, I do love freight rail in North America however. There's nothing like seeing a 1-mile long freight train being hauled by a couple GE Dash 9 diesel locomotives.

European freight trains may be a lot faster, but I still think it is more exciting to see huge 1-mile long trains pulled by multiple locomotives moving along.

I did take the Amtrak California Zephyr a few weeks ago from Denver to Glenwood Springs and it was alright. The scenery was absolutely spectacular however.

It was my first trip on Amtrak.

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revist

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:48 pm

Quoting BA (Reply 24):
I understand it is not practical on long intercontinental stretches, but it is perfectly practical on commuter rail lines like Metrolink.

Metrolink uses rights-of-way leased from freight companies, so they share tracks with freight trains. We do have light rail here in SoCal, but the combination of population density and our lack of transportation planning in past decades makes the building of this kind of infrastructure positively agonizing.

Damn shame, too... if we had back all the rights-of-way we abandoned, we might have a passenger rail system now that would actually be useful to more than a handful of people.

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:50 pm

Quoting BA (Reply 24):
I'm talking about sleek electrified commuter trains like this, the Siemens/Stadler-built RABe514 double-deck Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) used by SBB CFF FFS in the Zürich S-Bahn network. It entered service earlier this year.



Quoting BA (Reply 24):
When it comes to single-deck commuter trains, I think the Stadler FLIRT Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) is beautiful. It's used by SBB CFF FFS in several S-Bahn systems in Switzerland including Basel which uses dual-voltage models to cross into France.

Nice pics. Who manufactures those trains? EDI
 
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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:25 pm

Quoting Saxdiva (Reply 25):
Metrolink uses rights-of-way leased from freight companies, so they share tracks with freight trains.

I had a feeling this was the case. Here in Denver, they want to build a rail line from Denver Union Station in downtown to the airport and it would use Union Pacific track for about half the journey. They initially looked at several options including light-rail (since Denver already has a light-rail network), but Union Pacific shot down any proposal that involves electrification of their tracks saying they won't accept it. It's a shame really, but what can you do...

Quoting Saxdiva (Reply 25):
We do have light rail here in SoCal, but the combination of population density and our lack of transportation planning in past decades makes the building of this kind of infrastructure positively agonizing.

I spent some time in San Diego during spring break in 2005 and did notice the light-rail network. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to ride it.

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 26):
Nice pics. Who manufactures those trains? EDI

The RABe514 is built in cooperation between the transportation systems division of the German conglomerate, Siemens AG, and the Swiss rail vehicles manufacturer, Stadler Rail AG.

The cars are manufactured in Siemens' Prague plant in the Czech Republic before they are shipped separately to Stadler Rail's plant in Altenrhein, Switzerland to be fitted with the interior and for final assembly.

You can see them being transported here:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/electric/emu/RABe514/RABe514_rr1.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/electric/emu/RABe514/RABe514_rr3.jpg

The FLIRT is built entirely by Stadler Rail AG in Switzerland.

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RE: SoCal Metrolink Commuter Train Pictures Revisted

Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:42 pm

Quoting BA (Reply 27):
The RABe514 is built in cooperation between the transportation systems division of the German conglomerate, Siemens AG, and the Swiss rail vehicles manufacturer, Stadler Rail AG.

The cars are manufactured in Siemens' Prague plant in the Czech Republic before they are shipped separately to Stadler Rail's plant in Altenrhein, Switzerland to be fitted with the interior and for final assembly.

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