F9Animal
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Oh Man, The Pain!

Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:28 pm

Hey all,

I thought I would put my bitching and moaning on the forum. Last week, I had what I thought was a kink in the old neck. After awful pain for a week, I finally went to the docs today. They did an XRAY and said that there was some wear on the neck area.

Now the doc is concerned of a herniated disk in the neck area, and wants to see me next week to see if the pain has calmed. If not, he said that he might need to send me in for further tests.

Now let me get this right...... He says that surgery may not be possible, since it is so close to the spinal cord. OH MAN!!! Surgery is one of my biggest fears, but this pain is something that I just am not enjoying!! If surgery is out of the option, then I guess I have to live with the pain?

Can someone educate me on this? I am sure there has to be someone on these forums that knows or has the same issue, and can tell me what can be done to relieve this pain. Right now they have me on some good pain killers, but I don't want to be high for the rest of my life!!! Ummm... Well actually..... No, I dont!!!!!

THANKS!!!!!
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:03 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Thread starter):
They did an XRAY and said that there was some wear on the neck area.

Before nany surgery in the neck area, a cat-scan and MRI should have been ordered. Beware of anytime they talk fusion in the neck as it will limited your neck range of motion, and depending on your occupation could result in a change of career. Anyway surgery would be a last resort. Since I do not know the medication you're on, just a reminder not to overdo the pain meds.
 
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:16 pm

Steroids and an NSAID should be prescribed to reduce inflammation. Rest and physical therapy will also help. An initial MRI and followup MRI's should be done to monitor the disk.

Surgery is always a last resort. It'll take a few weeks of meds, rest, and therapy before the need for surgery is determined.

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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:31 pm

My Father (70 something) just had a simmilar surgery, where once they got in; instead of dammaged discs, they found a hairline fracture that never showed up on x-rays or MRI/CAT. This was from a biking accident he had years ago, and in all his time he could have ended up being a quad at any moment.

The surgery ended up being BRUTAL as they had to 'go in' on both sides. It's been a week and he's still having a bit of dificulty in swallowing soft foods. He's in a bit of pain, but he's getting better.

The way I'd look at it is; it will be a bit of suffering for a very good long term gain.
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:56 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 3):
My Father (70 something) just had a simmilar surgery, where once they got in; instead of dammaged discs, they found a hairline fracture that never showed up on x-rays or MRI/CAT. This was from a biking accident he had years ago, and in all his time he could have ended up being a quad at any moment.

The surgery ended up being BRUTAL as they had to 'go in' on both sides. It's been a week and he's still having a bit of dificulty in swallowing soft foods. He's in a bit of pain, but he's getting better.

The way I'd look at it is; it will be a bit of suffering for a very good long term gain.

Oh man..... I have plenty of warm and fuzzies now!!!!! Suicide is another option! LOL! I am terrified with the thought of surgery. Sorry to hear about your dad! That is god awful!!!!! The fact that he is in his 70's and surviving a surgery like that is incredible. I lost my grandfather to back surgery in his 70's. You dad is a fighter, thats for sure.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
Before nany surgery in the neck area, a cat-scan and MRI should have been ordered. Beware of anytime they talk fusion in the neck as it will limited your neck range of motion, and depending on your occupation could result in a change of career. Anyway surgery would be a last resort. Since I do not know the medication you're on, just a reminder not to overdo the pain meds.

I need good motion in the neck. I have an occupation that requries me to watch my back constantly. Especially when searching for suspects! I am having a heck of a time at the moment, and certainly am not getting involved in any foot pursuits!

The pain meds are having little effect on the pain. A friend gave me morophine pills, but I do not like the feeling on them. So I am just taking what the doc prescribed.

I go in on Tuesday to see what progress has been made. Doc says that an MRI is possible, and then go from there.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Steroids and an NSAID should be prescribed to reduce inflammation. Rest and physical therapy will also help. An initial MRI and followup MRI's should be done to monitor the disk.

Surgery is always a last resort. It'll take a few weeks of meds, rest, and therapy before the need for surgery is determined.

Mark

They gave me Ibuprophen, hydrocodeine, and a muscle relaxer.


Thanks for the info guys! I just hope no surgery!
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:02 am

That type of pain doesn't seem to respond well to pain medication. I found that out after a car accident. They might reccommend physical therapy to strengthen the muscles around the injured spot. Hope you feel better soon, an neck injury is pretty uncomfortable.
 
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:44 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 4):
You dad is a fighter, thats for sure.

30 years as a state employee with 18 years on the apellate bench (as a judge) will do that to you  Wink

I know the tunnel seems long, but trust me once you are on the other side you will find that while it felt like a train, it's really warm sunshine Big grin
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:29 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 6):
30 years as a state employee with 18 years on the apellate bench (as a judge) will do that to you Wink

Oh yes, then he is a stubborn as stubborn can be. Gotta love it.

Quoting Nancy (Reply 5):
That type of pain doesn't seem to respond well to pain medication. I found that out after a car accident. They might reccommend physical therapy to strengthen the muscles around the injured spot. Hope you feel better soon, an neck injury is pretty uncomfortable.

Thanks for the well wishes! Yes, the pain killers are not doing much for me. It is one of those constant things that I just can't get my mind off of. I broke my foot a few years ago, and that was nothing when compared to the pain I am feeling every moment. But, I hope Tuesday brings some good news.
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:23 am

Another thing that helps is warm, moist heat. A hot pack placed over your neck for 15 minutes or so can help relieve some of the pain and increase movement. Alternatively, if you have access to a hot tub, get in up to your neck for 5-10 minutes.

I have early onset arthritis in my neck, and the hot tub seems to work the best for me. I also agree with the above. Spinal surgery is tricky, and should only be attempted as a last resort.

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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:05 am

Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 8):
Another thing that helps is warm, moist heat. A hot pack placed over your neck for 15 minutes or so can help relieve some of the pain and increase movement. Alternatively, if you have access to a hot tub, get in up to your neck for 5-10 minutes.

I have early onset arthritis in my neck, and the hot tub seems to work the best for me. I also agree with the above. Spinal surgery is tricky, and should only be attempted as a last resort.

Charles, SJ

Funny you should mention that Charles. I went out and bought a moist heating pad, the kind you microwave for a few minutes and stays hot for about an hour, yesterday!! Let me say, oooohhhhh,,,, awwwwwwww,,,, hmmmmmmmmm. LOL!!!


Someone mentioned that I should take a visit to the chiropractor. What do you guys think? I am kind of scared about bones popping, so I am somewhat skeptical over the idea, but would be willing to do ANYTHING at this point to get rid of the pain.
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
What do you guys think?

Find out if surgery is necessary first. If your 'just in pain' (don't need surgery) then go get 're-aligned'
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 10):
Find out if surgery is necessary first. If your 'just in pain' (don't need surgery) then go get 're-aligned'

Another opinion is always good. Have you considered going to a chiropractic doctor for an evaluation? This may help.

Good Luck  Smile

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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:39 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
Someone mentioned that I should take a visit to the chiropractor. What do you guys think? I am kind of scared about bones popping, so I am somewhat skeptical over the idea, but would be willing to do ANYTHING at this point to get rid of the pain.

Absolutely no to a chiropractor. I've heard too many stories of people with back and neck trouble who go to one only to have it made worse.

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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
Someone mentioned that I should take a visit to the chiropractor

Absolutely not if there's a potential for a ruptured disk!

A disk is like a jelly doughnut. When it gets squeezed, the jelly shifts toward the edge of the disc. Improper manipulation can make the jelly burst out. Once jelly is lost it cannot be replaced.



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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:05 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 13):
Absolutely not if there's a potential for a ruptured disk!

A disk is like a jelly doughnut. When it gets squeezed, the jelly shifts toward the edge of the disc. Improper manipulation can make the jelly burst out. Once jelly is lost it cannot be replaced.

Oh!!!! The vision of it is making me feel weak in the knees! I guess trying to pop my neck is out of the question now.

I still get this sharp pain when I turn my neck. It shoots into my lower shoulder area.

I wonder if I should take another night off of work?
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:09 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 14):
I wonder if I should take another night off of work?

It would be the safest thing to do.

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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:17 am

Quoting F9Animal (Thread starter):
Can someone educate me on this?

Frankly, that's what you have your doc for. Call him.
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:39 am

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 16):
Frankly, that's what you have your doc for. Call him.

Amazingly, I have learned more about this by just posting the question here. That speaks millions about how helpful people can be. Experience is also another huge thing that helps.

Thanks to all that helped! And my doc obviously frowned when I mentioned chiropractor.
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:12 am

I know only too well where you're coming from.The disks in between the bones of my spine from the base of my skull to just below the neck are all degrading. My doctor has told me that there is nothing that can be done, as the disks will never regenerate or anything. At the moment, it's a question of pain management and the hope that the disks will degrade in such a way that the bones will fuse naturally. I take ibuprofen, and I've had a few cortisone shots to help me. If my bones don't fuse naturally, they'll have to fuse them surgically...something I'm really not looking forward to. I'm not supposed to do any lifting (hah!) and I'm not supposed to spend a lot of time in front of the computer (double hah!) I know that once the bones fuse, I will have lost some range of motion, but I'll be pain-free.
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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:26 am

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 16):
Frankly, that's what you have your doc for

A doctor is just another type of medical professional. Many nurses know a lot more than docs.

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RE: Oh Man, The Pain!

Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:42 am

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 18):
the disks will never regenerate or anything.

My wife has had two surgeries on her spine to fuse the vertebrae, and will have a third on Nov 7th. Her surgeon has told her that there are are ongoing lab experiments to grow new discs with some material from the patient, in order to prevent rejection. I stress that these are just experiments at this time, but hopefully there will be positive results within a few years.

In any event, F9Animal, good luck with whatever course of action you decide on, and while you're avoiding foot chases, if you get into a car chase, just remember the advice in my signature.
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