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Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:41 pm

Found this in my local newspaper:



£39 seems good for a day out in London. And the added pleasure of getting hauled there by EWS Big grin
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:51 pm

Sean,

Such a small world  Wow! Ill be on that train from York, Adwick, Bently, Doncaster, Retford, Newark North Gate, Grantham and I finish at Peterborough.. Its unsure yet as to whether the locomotive will be a 67 or a double headed 66 due to the maintenance schedules being a little messed up.. Ill know in a few days time if the 67 is available.

If anyone wants to come along and have a nosey round the cab (whilst stopped!!) please feel free to come make yourselves known.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:24 pm

How are EWS allowed to conduct passenger operations? I would think GNER would have something to say about another operator operating their franchised route, unless this is a charter by GNER or something?
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:26 pm

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 2):
How are EWS allowed to conduct passenger operations? I would think GNER would have something to say about another operator operating their franchised route, unless this is a charter by GNER or something?

Its a contracted run through Kingfisher, Similar to chartering a aircraft.. We can easily keep up with GNER line speeds so we dont effect them at all.

The route is the east coast mainline, which most of the route has 4 lines, two outer slow lines for mainly frieght and slower DMU's and the 2 inners are "fast lanes" for GNER, or other faster loco's.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:32 pm

Some information on this trip as the kingfisherrailtours.co.uk website is down:

http://www.railwayvideo.com/railtours/form211006a.htm

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting EWS (Reply 3):
Its a contracted run through Kingfisher, Similar to chartering a aircraft.. We can easily keep up with GNER line speeds so we dont effect them at all.

Yeah, but what I meant was, GNER bid and paid for the east coast mainline contract. Despite that, can anyone run services on GNER's routes?
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:50 pm

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 5):
Yeah, but what I meant was, GNER bid and paid for the east coast mainline contract. Despite that, can anyone run services on GNER's routes?

Yes EWS are totally seperate to GNER, we use ECML on a daily basis.. This is a charter and is still classed with GNER as one of our trains, even though its station handeled by GNER Staff. This is a one off charter, GNER have no say in what runs on any railway anywhere in the country.. you could charter a steam loco and send it down the ECML at 30mph, GNER have no say in that what so ever.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:51 pm

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 5):

I guess as it's a one-off charter, there's not really any conflict with GNER's usual customers.

Quoting EWS (Reply 1):
If anyone wants to come along and have a nosey round the cab (whilst stopped!!) please feel free to come make yourselves known.

Woohoo! Jumpseat on a 66!
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting EWS (Reply 6):
you could charter a steam loco and send it down the ECML at 30mph, GNER have no say in that what so ever.

Considering they pay for the franchise, I'd have expected that they'd have exclusive use of some routes.
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:58 pm

Go on a train with Lewis driving? I'd rather let JGPH1A give me a massage!!  wideeyed 

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:04 pm

Good lord, its almost as bad as STEAM POWER  Yeah sure
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 9):
Go on a train with Lewis driving? I'd rather let JGPH1A give me a massage!!

 rotf  Andy, im totally lost for words with that one, i want to be nice here but its just not possible!

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 10):
Good lord, its almost as bad as STEAM POWER

Nothing wrong with steam! Bloody young electric whipper-snappers!  box 

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:19 pm

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 8):
Considering they pay for the franchise, I'd have expected that they'd have exclusive use of some routes.

They have priority over anything else on the routes, apart from a medical train or the queens messenger. When i'm down grantham way the lines runs back into 2, and i usually get a red signal until one or two GNER's pass and the line is clear, as were slower (with the typical 66/60 loco's) so coming off the slow line onto the fast line may cause problems and delays for GNER or any other high speed operators on the ECML, so we usually have to wait until there's a suitable slot in the system for us to continue.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:19 pm

Quoting EWS (Reply 11):

Nothing wrong with steam! Bloody young electric whipper-snappers!

Nah you want a nice Class 43
Quality 70s engineering  Silly
I once saw one doing a cargo op  Silly
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:21 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 13):
Nah you want a nice Class 43

One of these?



Or the 43 HST?

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:28 pm

Quoting EWS (Reply 14):

HST obviously!
I'm too ignorant to even know of that thing there - which looks like a steam train.
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:33 pm

Quoting EWS (Reply 11):

I say there is nothing wrong with steam trains, bring them back!!,but the idiots who protect the air and land would be hoping mad if all steam trains came back into service.
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:40 pm

43's are the old GWR diesels aren't they?

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:53 pm

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 17):
43's are the old GWR diesels aren't they?

You know the old HST 125s
Loud bastards
First Great Western love them so much that they have been re-engined
We'll be seeing them for many years yet  Silly
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Not those nasty 125 heaps, the original diesels, dirty, browny-red coloured things.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:02 pm

That sounds like so much fun! Sure wish I could go!
 
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 15):
I'm too ignorant to even know of that thing there - which looks like a steam train.

Thats ok.. I'd only expect myself, BMIFlyer, and the other railway dudes to know of the old 43's!

If you look closley at the photograph you can almost make out myt332 at the end of the platform with his notebook and pen!

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:56 pm

Will you be passing through shitdale? Might hop on!
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 22):
Will you be passing through shitdale? Might hop on!

No.. I'm sorry ill not be delivering any needles or cocaine to Rochdale.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:08 am

Chrismas huh? Is that the new politically correct Labour Party-approved spelling?

River-born? Is that some kind of water birth? And... it is King's Cross not Kings Cross! Let's not even start on the shocking use (or lack of) of capitals!

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:48 am

Actually, thinking about it, I could fly to NCL on my free Eastern tickets, stay the night, catch the train in the morning, do the trip and return to NCL again staying overnight and then fly back to the IOM.

But, since I have to take pictures at a friends grandson's christening on Sunday 22nd, I guess that's a no then.

Ah well, back 't drawing board.

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 25):
Actually, thinking about it, I could fly to NCL on my free Eastern tickets, stay the night, catch the train in the morning, do the trip and return to NCL again staying overnight and then fly back to the IOM.

Sorry to inform you but the mk2 coaches we are using do not have any wheelchair access. Maybe next time eh?  box 

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 19):
Not those nasty 125 heaps, the original diesels, dirty, browny-red coloured things.

Yeah, big difference from the steam travel that took you around thru most of your adulthood!

Quoting EWS (Reply 21):
If you look closley at the photograph you can almost make out myt332 at the end of the platform with his notebook and pen!

Actually I think thats skiddy?
When was this taken, mid-30s?

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:07 am

You may jest, spotty youths, but I DO remember steam trains. I used to live right next to the main London-Brighton railway line at Horley, in Surrey, and can recall standing on the footbridge dodging the steam clouds as the trains puffed their way along one of the four mainlines.

We even had a train crash there. Horley has a subway under the railway in addition to the footbridge (still there too) and a freight train, heading North to South, was trundling along and managed to lose the majority of it's load when the roof of the subway gave way. It wasn't until he went through Gatwick that anyone alerted him to what had happened!! Mind you, we ate Cornflakes for months after that - 'cos that's what was in some of the trucks!! Big grin

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 28):
Mind you, we ate Cornflakes for months after that - 'cos that's what was in some of the trucks!!

So when one of our coal trains crashes, bet your fire wwas burning for months! Now i know the real reason behind your free T3 tickets  Wink

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:02 am

Quoting EWS (Reply 29):
So when one of our coal trains crashes, bet your fire wwas burning for months! Now i know the real reason behind your free T3 tickets

Yep, we had a coal fire then. If I'd been a bit older I guess I would have been wishing for something like that but hey, at 7 or so, Cornflakes were pretty exciting! Big grin

You wanna know the reason behind my free T3 tickets? They used one of my pictures in Airliner World without crediting the pic to me. I now have the local manager by the balls - he won't do that again in a hurry! Big grin

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 18):
You know the old HST 125s
Loud bastards
First Great Western love them so much that they have been re-engined
We'll be seeing them for many years yet Silly

I think some of the MML and Virgin machines were done as well. They did the work at DML in Plymouth, of all the stupidities they would get the trains to the depot here, crane them onto a low loader and then drive them through the city only to be craned back onto the rails in the dockyard 5 miles away  banghead 

They have also done work on 158s here, I was cycling to college one day when I got overtaken by a Central Trains 158, I nearly fell of my bike!  eyepopping 

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:20 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 28):
I used to live right next to the main London-Brighton railway line at Horley, in Surrey

Was that as it was being built?
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:29 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 32):
Was that as it was being built?

No, cretin, it was not. And I'll thank you to mind your manners young man!!  grumpy 

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 33):
No, cretin, it was not. And I'll thank you to mind your manners young man!! grumpy

Do they still use steam trains on the Isle of Man Andy, I seem to remember seeing some pictures of them in a magazine a whale back?

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 33):
No, cretin, it was not. And I'll thank you to mind your manners young man!!

Oh I'm sorry old man, I will watch that in the future.
Do they even have electricity in the IOM?
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:10 am

We have narrow gauge steam trains here that run between April and October between Port Erin and Douglas, along with an electric system that runs from Douglas to Ramsey with a spur going up Snaefell.

All modern equipment designed using the latest technology.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/skiddyiom/Isle%20of%20Man%20pictures/Transport/SnaefellMountainRailwayattheBungalow.jpg



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/skiddyiom/Isle%20of%20Man%20pictures/Transport/ElectricTramatDouglasterminus.jpg

As you can see, nothing but the best! Big grin

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 36):
electric system

Blimey, a bit ahead of the time there arent you?
Crazy!
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:17 am

Quoting EWS (Reply 26):
Sorry to inform you but the mk2 coaches we are using

...and there was me thinking that EWS would be using their old parcel vans with a few deckchairs inside.
 
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:19 am

Quoting Willo (Reply 38):
...and there was me thinking that EWS would be using their old parcel vans with a few deckchairs inside.

Yeah thats what it is
Its called leased from GNER

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:55 am

Quoting Willo (Reply 38):
...and there was me thinking that EWS would be using their old parcel vans with a few deckchairs inside.

Haha.. might aswell be the amount of crap we have to go through just to haul those bloody things!

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 39):
Its called leased from GNER

They are leased from York Railway Museam..

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:54 pm

Understand MYT332 has already booked his spot at the end of the platform in York.
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:58 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 41):
Understand MYT332 has already booked his spot at the end of the platform in York.

I think you'll find he now only answers to the user name Petit-Pe@rson Big grin
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:42 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 42):
I think you'll find he now only answers to the user name Petit-Pe@rson

Took your time didn't you? Big grin

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:25 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 42):
I think you'll find he now only answers to the user name Petit-Pe@rson

Hush rent boy! It's Mr Petit-Pe@rson to you.

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 43):
Took your time didn't you?

Says he who thinks he's still replying to the Christmas 2005 thread.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 41):
Understand MYT332 has already booked his spot at the end of the platform in York.



Quoting EWS (Reply 21):
If you look closley at the photograph you can almost make out myt332 at the end of the platform with his notebook and pen!

You know, I went to Barrow-In-Furness at the weekend and being the good sport that I am, I even took photos of the trains I went on just for you.

http://www.tmfy.com/photos/bif

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:29 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 44):
175's and 153's, don't get too wet over them now!

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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:37 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 44):
You know, I went to Barrow-In-Furness at the weekend and being the good sport that I am, I even took photos of the trains I went on just for you.

Well if it gets you and your 206 off the road i suppose thats no bad thing  Wink

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 44):
Hush rent boy! It's Mr Petit-Pe@rson to you.

Well as i'd never refer to Pe@rson as Mr, I'm certainly not going to do that for the mini version of him Big grin
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:49 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 45):
Now I never thought I'd see you on a skateboard!

I had to Google Skateboards, you big geek! Still, I was quite surprised to see this one car train pull up for the hour ride back to Lancaster. It was better than those railbuses though, I detest them. Once on the way back from uni one pulled up at Salford and on I got. Sadly I had just rolled out of the student union bar and after 15 minutes onboard I had to get off at Bolton because the nodding motion of the train was making me nauseous! Big grin

Quoting Cornish (Reply 46):
Well if it gets you and your 206 off the road i suppose thats no bad thing

Leave the 206 alone, its got a broken gear linkage so it struggles to move at the moment!
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:52 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 47):
I had to Google Skateboards, you big geek!

I thought that would test your knowledge  rotfl   rotfl 
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RE: Day Trips By Train From EWS

Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:01 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 47):
Leave the 206 alone, its got a broken gear linkage so it struggles to move at the moment!

From the shock of you trying to get it into third ??  duck 
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