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Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:35 am

I have often noticed on my travels around the UK that many places often have a sign with the name of the town/village and then say they are "twinned with" another town or village somewhere overseas.

Today I noticed that Denham, Buckinghamshire is twinned with Shark Bay in Australia of all places !!!. I'm sure that there are no sharks in Denham, Buckinghamshire so I wondered why they would be twinned.

Now what is the purpose of a "twin town" and in what way are they twinned and who decided what towns will be twinned ?.

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:38 am

My hometown, Fort Wayne, IN, is twinned with "sister city" Takaoka, Japan.

Why?

I've always wondered about what connection there is between a small Hoosier city of 300,000 and a Japanese city.

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:38 am

Education I guess... To get know different people and cultures.
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:41 am

According to wikipedia...

Quote:
Glasgow has been twinned with various cities around the world including:[25]

* Cuba Havana, Cuba
* Italy Rome, Italy
* Italy Turin, Italy
* Germany Nuremberg, Germany
* Russia Rostov-on-Don, Russia
* France Marseille, France[26]
* People's Republic of China - Dalian, People's Republic of China
* Pakistan - Lahore, Pakistan[27]
* Palestinian National Authority - Bethlehem, Palestinian Territories
* United States - Washington, DC, United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:43 am

Maidenhead is twinned with
Bad Godesberg in Germany
Frascati in France/Switzerland I cnanot remember what
and another one from either France/Switzerland
Who knows why!
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:44 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Thread starter):
Today I noticed that Denham, Buckinghamshire is twinned with Shark Bay in Australia of all places !!!. I'm sure that there are no sharks in Denham, Buckinghamshire so I wondered why they would be twinned.

Denham is the name of the main town in the Shark Bay area of Western Australia - that would probably explain it.

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 2):
Education I guess...

Nope. It's to allow local government officials to organize freebee "factfinding" exchanges with their twin towns, in other words an excuse to take holidays at taxpayers expense.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:50 am

I believe it all started after the second world war when there was an idea that wars only started because people of different nations did not know enough about each other and if they did then there would be no more wars.

So towns in different countries twinned so they would understand each other better.

Seems strange in todays culture, but in the 20 years after WW2 travel was much much more limited, and I can remember that I was 23 before I went abroad, prior to that the longest sea trip I had done was to the Isle of Wight,
so peoples 1st hand knowledge of other nationalitys was very limited.

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:58 am

Morecambe is twinned with

Aalborg, Denmark
Rendsburg, Germany
Vaxjo, Sweden
Perpignan, France
Lublin, Poland

Nearby Lancaster is also twinned with
Viana Do Castelo, Portugal
Almere, Netherlands

as well as Lublin, as with Morecambe.

Not sure what practical purpose they serve, but the 8 cities/towns (Lancaster and Morecambe combine) hold an annual 'Youth Games', with several sports being played. The towns take turns at hosting. Several schools also do exchanges annually, again with no practical purpose, though no doubt a number of local students in the area have benefitted from the exchanges and games.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Thread starter):
Now what is the purpose of a "twin town"

To allow local counsellors to have somewhere to go on all expenses paid holidays/jollies.  Wink
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:19 am

Plymouth where I live is linked with quite a few places;

- Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA (Pilgrim Fathers and foundation/ colonisation of the US)
- Brest, Brittany, France
- Gdynia, Poland (Gave name to main road called "Gdynia Way")
- Novorossiysk, Russia (Gave name to a road and local area of the city)
- San Sebastian, Spain

Perhaps surprisingly Plymouth in Massachusetts was the last city that the UK Plymouth was twinned with, the first being Brest, followed by Gdynia. I think we were twinned with Novorossiysk as a sign of UK - Soviet friendship at what was the end of the cold war.

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:26 am

I'm curious as to why Lancaster isn't twinned with another - considering the USA has stolen the name about 14 times for towns/cities alone, plus several other counties of the same name!
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:00 pm

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Victoria has established a Twin City (sometimes called Sister City) relationship with Napier, New Zealand; Suzhou, China; Morioka, Japan; and Khabarovsk, Russia
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:22 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 4):
Frascati in France/Switzerland

Frascati is a town south of Rome (Italy)
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:26 pm

Zurich is twinned with Kunming (since 1982, quite some co-operation going on) and since about two years with San Francisco .
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:47 pm

Dallas, Texas' sister cities:
Brno (Czech Republic)
Dijon (France)
Monterrey (Mexico)
Riga (Latvia)
Kirkuk (Iraq)
Saratov (Russia)
Taipei (Taiwan)

We also have a "friendship city" relationship with Sendai, Japan.

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:08 pm

We have a sister school in Japan, our high school and university.

Not sure if we sister cities but we have a connection with them.

speaking for Carbondale, Illinois.

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:03 pm

My town Castrop-Rauxel has the following sister cities:

Vincennes, France
Wakefield, England
Delft, The Netherlands
Nowa Ruda, Poland
Kuopio, Finland
Zehdenick, dark.....eh sorry, I meant Eastern Germany  Wink

As far as I know there are often groups of young people of those cities visiting the other cities for a summer. I met people from Finland in my town as well several times. Lots of fun mostly.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:10 pm

Quoting DTManiac (Reply 16):
Eastern Germany

is THAT "country" still existing ? I thought that the GDR was split into 6 "Bundeslaender" ?  confused   wave 
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:28 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):

Nope. It's to allow local government officials to organize freebee "factfinding" exchanges with their twin towns, in other words an excuse to take holidays at taxpayers expense.

I was a local councillor for 16 years and I paid all my trips to the twin towns in the UK or in France out of my pocket. Same for the Mayor or all the others who take part in the exchange. I cannot imagine that the UK officials get their trips funded by public money. Furthermore, they spend their own monies
to fund the twinning associations who organise and administer the twinnings.

The reason for the twinning is that people in various parts of the World get to know and understand each other. Over the years, many personal friendships have developed between citizens of the twinned cities.

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 17):

is THAT "country" still existing ? I thought that the GDR was split into 6 "Bundeslaender"

There are only 5 and that is why we call it "Newfiveland" sometimes. Germany was re united and the Federal Constitution (which was the Constitution for the whole of Germany since 1949) became effective also on that part of Germany. Berlin - which you may refer to as "No. 6" had a special status as part of the Federal Republic with limited sovereignty.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:54 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 18):
Berlin - which you may refer to as "No. 6" had a special status as part of the Federal Republic with limited sovereignty.

well, it actually is "re-united" Berlin which I counted as nr 6 . And Berlin in the Fischer Weltalmanach is listed just as one Bundesland, while I did NOT see West-Berlin as a "Bundesland" in the strict sense of the word. But OK, FIVE "real/new" Bunderlaender !
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:02 am

Innsbruck is twinned with New Orleans, amongst others. Many students from Louisiana attend summer school in Austria every year.

So, a nice shout out to everyone from the Mississippi Delta! And to all other partner cities, of course!

Freiburg, Germany
Grenoble, France
Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Aalborg, Denmark
Tiflis, Georgia
Omachi City, Japan
New Orleans, United States
Cracow, Poland

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:13 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 18):
. I cannot imagine that the UK officials get their trips funded by public money.

I can.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:48 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 21):
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my personal experience is different. I have voted on 16 budgets and there was not a single penny for personal travel of city officials, we have assisted sports groups of young people but only with a fraction of the actual costs.

From what my counterparts have been saying, the situation is similar in the UK. From Australia I know that they get travel to twinned cities subsidized.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:35 am

Seems plenty of cities in my country are twinned with other cities around the world... here's two of them:

Antigua Guatemala is twinned with Zapopan and Uruapan, Michoacan, both in Mexico; Coral Gables, FL; and I could swear it's twinned with Cuzco, Peru as well, but can't find anything at the moment.

Guatemala City is twinned with Taipei, Taiwan (!)

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:54 am

I have this goal of going to all 26 of Los Angeles' sister/twin cities but sadly have only made it to 3 (Tehran, Montreal and Berlin).

My home town of Los Angeles is twinned with:

Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Athens, Greece
Auckland, New Zealand
Beirut, Lebanon
Berlin, Germany
Bordeaux, France
Busan, South Korea
Eilat, Israel
Giza, Egypt
Guangzhou, People's Republic of China
Jakarta, Indonesia
Kaunas, Lithuania
Lusaka, Zambia
Makati City, Philippines
Mexico City, Mexico
Melbourne, Australia
Moscow, Russia
Mumbai, India
Nagoya, Japan
St. Petersburg, Russia
Salvador, Brazil
Split, Croatia
Taipei, Taiwan
Tehran, Iran
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Yerevan, Armenia

My current home of New Orleans has 10 Sister/twin cities:

Juan-les-Pins, France
Maracaibo, Venezuela
Matsue, Japan
Mérida, Mexico
Innsbruck, Austria
Pointe Noire, Republic of the Congo
San Miguel de Tucuman, Argentina
Tegucigalpa, Honduras
Caracas, Venezuela
Holdfast Bay, Australia
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:38 am

Let's see how far we can get around the world!

I'll start:

Innsbruck
New Orleans
Caracas
...

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:40 am

It's so elected council members can get free 'town twinning' trips to other countries at the taxpayer's expense. Nothing more, nothing less.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:04 am

Cleveland, Ohio, has the following "Sister Cities":

Alexandria, Egypt

Bangalore, India

Brasov, Romania

Bratislava, Slovak Republic

Cleveland County, England

Conarky, Guinea

Gdansk, Poland

Ibadan, Nigeria

Klaipeda, Lithuania

Ljubljana, Slovenia

Segundo Montes, El Salvador

Taipei City, Taiwan

Volgograd, Russia
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:01 am

Bochum's twin towns:

Sheffield (England), since 1950
Oviedo (Spain), since 1980
Donezk (Ukraina), since 1987
Nordhausen (German Democratic Republic  duck  ), since 1990
Xuzhou (China), since 1994

Quoting DTManiac (Reply 16):
As far as I know there are often groups of young people of those cities visiting the other cities for a summer.

Right, I spent several weeks in Sheffield because my school organized exchange of students quite often. One time I have even been there for three weeks during the regular school time when all of my other classmates had to go to school, I had to go to school as well but in Sheffield which was not as bad as going to my school in Germany.  Silly

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:56 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
My current home of New Orleans has 10 Sister/twin cities:

Juan-les-Pins, France

Woohoo - we're twins !  highfive 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:40 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 29):
Woohoo - we're twins !

Fortunately I am the...

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 29):
Young and beautiful and thin and gorgeous !


one

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:28 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 30):
Fortunately I am the...

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 29):
Young and beautiful and thin and gorgeous !


one

That's it - I'm breaking off the psychic link ! You're on your own now. Bastard.  grumpy 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:20 pm

Almaty's, Kazakhstan twin cities:

Istanbul, Turkey
Rennes, France
Tucson, Arizona, USA

Not bad : )
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:54 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 31):
That's it - I'm breaking off the psychic link ! You're on your own now.

Should I now issue a fatwa on British ex-pats in Juan-le-Pins?  Silly
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:00 pm

Honolulu also has 26 sister cities:

- Baguio, Philippines
- Baku, Azerbaijan
- Bruyeres, France
- Caracas, Venezuela
- Cebu City, Philippines
- Funchal, Portugal
- Hainan Island, China
- Hiroshima, Japan
- Hue City, Vietnam
- Incheon, South Korea
- Kaohsiung Municipality, Taiwan
- Laoag City, Philippines
- Manila, Philippines
- Mombasa, Kenya
- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
- Mumbai, India
- Naha City, Okinawa, Japan
- San Juan, Philippines
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- Santiago, Philippines
- Seoul, South Korea
- Sintra, Portugal
- Tokyo, Japan
- Uwajima, Japan
- Vigan City, Philippines
- Zhongshan City, China

These are the criteria that Honolulu considers when deciding on starting a sister city relationship. Most of the sister cities fall under the first criteria because we have immigrants from all over the world that came to Hawaii to work on the sugar and pineapple plantations.

1. Shares a direct historical, cultural, or ethnic relationship with the people of Honolulu;
2. Offers educational and technological assistance, including special knowledge, know-how or expertise that is beneficial to Honolulu's businesses, industries, and labor force;
3. Is similar in population size or character which makes for analogous problems and concerns and the exchange of meaningful ideas and applicable solutions for either or both cities; and
4. Recognizes other common bonds that are mutually beneficial to the citizens of both cities and serves as a liaison for the exchange of information and other lifestyle and practical values.

Honolulu also requires that there be some kind of exchange between the cities within 2 years of becoming a sister city agreement and at least once every 5 years after.
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:13 am

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Quoting PanHAM (Reply 22):
my personal experience is different. I have voted on 16 budgets and there was not a single penny for personal travel of city officials, we have assisted sports groups of young people but only with a fraction of the actual costs.

From what my counterparts have been saying, the situation is similar in the UK. From Australia I know that they get travel to twinned cities subsidized.

I have heard one member of a twinning committee say "It won't cost the council anything as we have a EU grant" And who are the mugs who pay for the EU ?
 
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:40 pm

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 35):
I have heard one member of a twinning committee say "It won't cost the council anything as we have a EU grant" And who are the mugs who pay for the EU ?

What is "IT"?

It is a fact that the EU supports twinnings and besides the fact that all Members of the European Parliament have funds to invite some voters every year to BRU or SXB. It is also a fact that the members of the twinning associations supports their organisations by paying annual dues and they pay for their travel as well.

I can speak from my experience and that is - I paid every penny out of my pocket for these trips ( as a councillor) and I do know that the mayor did not get any public money as well. I never heard from ur friends in the UK that they used public funding for their visits here.

EU grants - if available - are used to support youth group exchanges. If your council mis uses these funds, you should exchange the council on the next elections.
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:12 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):
Should I now issue a fatwa on British ex-pats in Juan-le-Pins?

Hah ! Only I may issue fatwahs. Just be careful I don't unleash my vengeful wrath against your new home city - look what happened LAST time ! Be warned  Smile
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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:47 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):
Should I now issue a fatwa on British ex-pats in Juan-le-Pins?

Damn!! You had to start the old Queen off didn't you?  duck 

Apparently some places in the Isle of Man are linked to twin towns/cities. Frightening I know, but fact all the same. I'll try and read the runes and see what's what. Big grin

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RE: Twin Town's - Why?

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:50 pm

Southampton is twinned with:

Le Havre, France (since 1973)
Rems-Murr-Kreis, Germany (since 1991)

Southampton is also a sister city of:

Hampton, Virginia
Qingdao, China (since 1998)

Great...  Wink

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