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Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:41 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15319792/

With all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month, it looks like it is finally over for the GOP (Grand Old Pedophiles as they are known following the Foley scandal). Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover? Will it ever?

Let the flaming and defending of the indefensible begin!
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:44 pm

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover? Will it ever?

I would bet my life on it that they will recover eventually, it's just a matter of how much they need to recover. The polls look bad, but I'll wait until the day of to determine how bad it is. I seem to remember the polls showing Kerry kicking Bush's arse the day of the last election, and that clearly didn't happen. I'm betting that the GOP lose seats, but I doubt that it will be as much of a landslide as polls show.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:50 pm

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover?

Recover from what?

Expect answer: **Teh EBILS teh GOP has comit33d that ruined teh coun7ry**

Could we please get some specific problems the nation needs to recover from?
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Recover from what?

That's a better question. Even though I said above that it would take time to recover, it's not recover, it's just how much time it will take them to regain control of the House and the Senate. However, at this point, it's all speculation, they may retain control of both.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:05 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Recover from what?

The damage that I, and apparently a large part of the population think has been done by the current administration. I'm not going to list specifics so you can attack them - just read the news. Of course if you are a die hard republican supporter, you won't agree that there has been any damage done, regardless of any facts, so there is no point in starting a big debate. Those republicans who are willing to stop and think are beginning to realize that things are heading in the wrong direction. Just ask the NINE former republicans who are now running as democrats in Kansas ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15319792/ ). Those who are blind to it all will remain so. As history has shown, if you tell enough lies for long enough, you eventually even believe them yourself.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 4):
I'm not going to list specifics so you can attack them

Very telling.

Don't confuse the problems of a political party with the problems of a nation. The GOP is crap, so are the Dems. Now, I want to know what is wrong with the nation that needs recovering from. Not what is wrong with certain political parties. Those problems are fixed easily on a constitutionally scheduled basis.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:21 pm

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 4):
I'm not going to list specifics so you can attack them

1. So you ask a general question but won't refine it in fear of having your thoughts attacked or argued against.

2.You say the country needs fixing but won't list what you think needs fixing.

It all sounds pretty childish to me on your part.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
It all sounds pretty childish to me on your part.

Then ignore it. Or start your own thread for me to ignore  wink 

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 5):
Don't confuse the problems of a political party with the problems of a nation.

Well my point is that the problems of the Nation are caused by the government (i.e. the governing party). Can the Dems do any better? That remains to be seen. Lets hope that they take Congress now, and the white house in 08, then they will have the chance to show us. Contrary to popular belief, I pretty much agree with your comment that both parties are crap. I just see the Dems as the lesser of two evils since we have no third option.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:42 pm

Before any of you dyed-in-the-wool Democrats break out your champagne, let me just tell you that unless YOU can offer up something that will better the overall national mood (which currently the only thing you can offer is that you are *NOT* Republicans.....and that you'd like to raise taxes for social programs to the moon.....you'll need to come up with a little more than that), the same thing will happen again in 2010: The Dems will have their butts handed to them.

And round and round it will go every 4 years until either A: one of the parties get in touch with reality, or B: Enough voters demonstrate that they are fed up with the ineptitude of both parties and vote a third party into power.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:43 pm

We need to recover from the gestapo-type tactics the GOP is employing in this country, I mean, omg, my freedom of speech was taken away!

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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:02 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Could we please get some specific problems the nation needs to recover from?

Loss of trust and respect around the World.
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter.
Thousands of maimed soldiers who go through life with brain damage, being paralyzed.
Budget deficit caused in by 400 Billion in costs.
Increased cynicism of Government due to Bush propaganda.

Yep our UK friend here just told you the truth as any friend would. The problem is you've still got your head in the sand. Bush set us back 30 years.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:05 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
With all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month, it looks like it is finally over for the GOP (Grand Old Pedophiles as they are known following the Foley scandal). Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover? Will it ever?

Rather incendiary, wouldn't you say?

Unless you assent in the description of the opposition as the DemocRAT party. Democ-RAT; get it?

A bit absurd, this name-calling.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:09 am

The Dems in Ohio are now targeting 5 more House races that, 2 months ago, seemed unwinnable. Sherrod Brown has opened up a double-digit lead on GOP incumbent Senator Mike DeWine; Ted Strickland has like a 30-point lead on Secretary of State Ken Blackwell for Governor.

Blackwell has gotten so desperate, he using his own office to try and get Strickland completely removed from the Governor's race.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/plaind.../news/1161255485153120.xml&coll=2>

Even if he would succeed in doing so, Strickland's running mate, Lee Fischer, would still probably trounce Blackwell, so unpopular is that GOP nutcase.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
Loss of trust and respect around the World.
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter.
Thousands of maimed soldiers who go through life with brain damage, being paralyzed.
Budget deficit caused in by 400 Billion in costs.
Increased cynicism of Government due to Bush propaganda.

I don't believe that we've lost the meaningful co-operation of any nation. Europe won't go to war on our side.. So? They don't seem to have any problems working with us economically.

Yes, the loss of soldiers is tragic, but I don't see that as a national recovery issue.

And if you think cynicism towards the government is new, please explain the Second Amendment.

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
Yep our UK friend here just told you the truth as any friend would. The problem is you've still got your head in the sand. Bush set us back 30 years.

Another assumption of political affiliations?

What has been set back 30 years? Our economy? Don't think so. Our foreign relations? Wouldn't that mean France joined NATO again? Industry? I wasn't aware Bush controlled Industry. Social Programs? The deficit you mentioned seems to indicate we have more social spending than ever before. What are we thirty years behind on?
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter

Please please oh Please o'wise one tell me how this was the administrations fault

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
Yep our UK friend here just told you the truth as any friend would. The problem is you've still got your head in the sand. Bush set us back 30 years.

Again tell me how,30 years ago we we wer still recovering from Watergate and were suffering through stagflation...I'm waiting eagerly for your brilliance to lead us out of the desert.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:30 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 13):
What has been set back 30 years?

Exactly as I said in my reply number 4. No point in debating with someone who has his blinkers so tighly fixed. That's why I refused to get into it.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 13):
And if you think cynicism towards the government is new, please explain the Second Amendment.

"In order to maintain a well-regulated militia" sounds an awful lot like a government action.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 15):
No point in debating with someone who has his blinkers so tighly fixed.

That could easily refer to you, as well.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:47 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
With all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month

Well I guess we will all see here in just under three weeks.

I will say this, it is time for a viable third party as niether party is doing the job it is supposed to, and that is serve the American people. Both sides are more interested in thier campaign war chests than passing quality legislation with good common sense.
If the Dems do take control of one or both houses, I hope they actually plan to get something done instead of trying to punish the GOP for the last 6 years. Which I think is exactly what will happen.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:49 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month

isn't it a bit too early to take such polls as a definite thing ? in many countries, decisive swings occur in the last week before an election.

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
to recover?

I mean the Republicans over the past 3 decades have moved more and more to the right, so that Richard Nixon now looks like a leftist. They may move back somewhat towards centreground.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 17):
That could easily refer to you, as well.

Gracias chico. Viva Rafael Correa  Smile
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
"In order to maintain a well-regulated militia" sounds an awful lot like a government action.

And you claim to be a law student?

Do they make you learn english first?

Let's read the amendment shall we.

Quote:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Right. Now read it.

Now, who's right is it to keep and bear arms?

Does it say, "the right of the GOVERNMENT to keep and bear arms?"

No, it says, "the right of the PEOPLE keep and bear arms?"

And why do you think that is? Do you think it's because the nation had just fought a war in which the PEOPLE had to fight the GOVERNMENT? Yes, that's right... the people who formed our government so distrusted government that they made it an absolute right to be able to fight the government. Cynicism towards the government new? HA!

Seriously, go to your professors and make them remove you from the class roles if you can't separate a clause from the subject of a sentence. Go back to freshman english and learn to diagram sentences all over again.

Let's try some simple exercises:

Which sentence makes sense.
1) A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State.
2) The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Can you tell now?

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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 14):
Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter

Please please oh Please o'wise one tell me how this was the administrations fault

If he's talking about Iraq, then yes, it is the Administrations fault, since they sent them to war.

And I think you should change the first part of your handle to "Ollie". It might be more appropriate.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:17 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
landslide

 rotfl  a Landslide would be if they won every position possible with a large margin of victory. That will not be the case here. The Dems might win enough positions to take over, but not 'by a landslide'.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
It all sounds pretty childish to me on your part.

 checkmark 

This thread start is childish flamebait.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:22 am

THE REPUBLICANS WILL HOLD THEM BOTH!!!! and when they do, because more americans voted for republicans than democrats, im sure some of the more fanatical among us will be saying that the voting was rigged or somesuch....get over it! Now 1 of 2 things is going to happen:

1. I am wrong and you guys will flame me until I recant all of this.

2. You are wring and I say told ya so.

I predict #2!

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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:29 am

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 24):
1. I am wrong and you guys will flame me until I recant all of this.

You might be wrong and if you are, you will be flamed, but making you recant something you have already stated would be foolish. At best we would 'make' you admit you were wrong.

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 24):
2. You are wring and I say told ya so.

No, we are not wring. Wrong; Maybe, but not wring. If you feel it necessary to prove you have a child like nature by saying 'I told you so' be my guest.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:31 am

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 24):

Glad to see your so positive, when all the polling date says the exact opposite.

I do like an optimist, though.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:35 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Could we please get some specific problems the nation needs to recover from?

Easy to answer: recover from the politics of hypocrite liar and country destroyer, called George W. Bush.
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 26):
Glad to see your so positive, when all the polling date says the exact opposite.

My point would be Falcon, that this polling now reflects the same realities of the polling done in the last several elections, and we now what those results were. So forgive me if I dont know what to believe.

I will always remember the stories before Arnold was elected. Even a few days before the election, the race was being called 'close', which wasnt close at all. My uncle was fairly down on the expected results, I wasnt. Arnold won with a comfortable margin. Days later, another story came out which basically said that Gray Davis knew he was going to lose big, but that did not make it into the newspaper till after the election.

Sceptical, you bet!
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 26):
polling date says the exact opposite.

Yeah, and the polls worked how well for the last two presidential elections?
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:03 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 29):
Yeah, and the polls worked how well for the last two presidential elections?

Well happily there is only one Brother who is Governor of a state. And even that is not for much longer  wink 
 
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:14 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 21):
Quote:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Right. Now read it.

Now, who's right is it to keep and bear arms?

Does it say, "the right of the GOVERNMENT to keep and bear arms?"

No, it says, "the right of the PEOPLE keep and bear arms?"

I paraphrased it pal. You read it again. "A well regulated Militia"

Militia
1. a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies.

National Guard

2. a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.

Still soldiers, who do work for the government

3. all able-bodied males considered by law eligible for military service.

Those able to be conscripted

The definition you are relying on is this one:

4. a body of citizens organized in a paramilitary group and typically regarding themselves as defenders of individual rights against the presumed interference of the federal government.

Which is tantamount to treason in the United States

It doesn't say that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be restricted" it says "shall not be infringed" which means the people can keep arms and the government can regulate what arms it feels the people need to maintain the security of the free state. Since there is a well regulated militia (the National Guard) already set up at the will of the individual states, the need for the people to have every type of arm (which includes knives, nunchucks, pipe bombs and many other things) is no longer there, so they can maintain a right to bear arms without having the right to any arm they would like

Aside from that, how come you mention the second amendment and not the first?
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 31):
The definition you are relying on is this one:

4. a body of citizens organized in a paramilitary group and typically regarding themselves as defenders of individual rights against the presumed interference of the federal government.

Which is tantamount to treason in the United States

Revolution is often called treason. It all depends on who wins.

Alas, yet again, you are fixating on the clause and not on the subject of the sentence.

What does the SCOTUS think a militia is?
United States v. Miller:

"These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. 'A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.' And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time."

Yes, that's right. Show up to muster with their own guns, from their own homes... and even *GASP* guns of a grade of common use. In the military that is.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 31):
Since there is a well regulated militia (the National Guard) already set up at the will of the individual states, the need for the people to have every type of arm (which includes knives, nunchucks, pipe bombs and many other things) is no longer there, so they can maintain a right to bear arms without having the right to any arm they would like

Really?

First off, the 2nd was never interpreted to bear any arm. It's always been interpreted as the right to bear an arm that could have a valid military application. Hence, the long standing ban against sawed off shotguns.

Second:

Let's all read Senate Document 2807:

"That the National Guard is not the 'Militia' referred to in the Second Amendment is even clearer today. Congress had organized the National Guard under its power to 'raise and support armies' and not its power to 'Provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the militia.' The modern National Guard was specifically intended to avoid status as the constitutional militia, a distinction recognized by 10 U.S.C. 311(a).

Title 32 U.S.C. in July 1918 completely altered the definition of the militia and its service, who controls it and what it is. The difference between the National Guard and Regular Army was swept away, and became a personnel pay folder classification only, thus nationalizing the entire National Guard into the Regular Standing Armies of the United States." "


---OR--

Title 10 U.S.C. 311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are -

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 31):
Aside from that, how come you mention the second amendment and not the first?

Because the second amendment is the one that keeps the others from being taken away.

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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
Alas, yet again, you are fixating on the clause and not on the subject of the sentence.

Read below. I was specifically talking about the subject as well as the clause which gives the amendment a meaning.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
of the kind in common use at the time."

Ok, so muskets are legal

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
"That the National Guard is not the 'Militia' referred to in the Second Amendment is even clearer today. Congress had organized the National Guard under its power to 'raise and support armies' and not its power to 'Provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the militia.' The modern National Guard was specifically intended to avoid status as the constitutional militia, a distinction recognized by 10 U.S.C. 311(a).

The Senate are not the final arbiters of the Constitution

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
Because the second amendment is the one that keeps the others from being taken away.

If that were true, cases like Terry, Awadallah, Atwater, etc. wouldn't exist because the second amendment would have kept them from taking away rights. Further, the Supreme Court time and time again has used balancing tests between government and civilian interest in first and fourth amendment cases, yet you don't mention that at all.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 26):
Glad to see your so positive, when all the polling date says the exact opposite.

Yep... and your same polling data has Al Gore in the WH in 2000, and JK in the White House in 2004.

Oh, wait. Yea. Election Fraud. How long is it going to take the Dems to play that card come day after election?

Republicans, while they do lose a seat here and there, keep both houses. Get over it now, claim your fraud later.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 34):
Yep... and your same polling data has Al Gore in the WH in 2000

And guess what? He won
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 34):
Yep... and your same polling data has Al Gore in the WH in 2000, and JK in the White House in 2004.

On BIG difference, my friend, is those two individual races were too close to call for weeks, if not months. Here, you have a slew of Congressional races, and many of them decisively turning the way of Democratic candidates.

It's not the same thing. And I was not being sarcastic when I said I like your optimism. That's not a bad thing at all.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:53 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 35):

No, he didn't . . . no matter how you try to spin it.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:55 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting MDorBust (Reply 13):
And if you think cynicism towards the government is new, please explain the Second Amendment.

"In order to maintain a well-regulated militia" sounds an awful lot like a government action.

With all do respect I think that point went right over your head.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):
The Senate are not the final arbiters of the Constitution

Can I give you a bit of a hint....neither are the courts.

The people are the final arbitor of rights, and in the end if too many are stolen from us from people like the Kerry, Schumer, Clinton, and all the other gun grabbig scum that infect the congress then the people can revolt. And by revolt I don't mean actually fighting, but ignoring rulings, protesting them, Stuff that Ghandi and King would do.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
Because the second amendment is the one that keeps the others from being taken away.

Damm Straight.

I do think the latest Diane Benson radio adds are helarious. Basicly her point is that she should replace Don Young because he won't be in the leading party. They are about as funny as the ones where she claims he doesn't support the troops.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 38):
They are about as funny as the ones where she claims he doesn't support the troops.

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For once, I don't think I mind ole useless Don Young winning another election. He's useless, generally, but Benson would be abyssmal. . . .
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:00 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 38):
Can I give you a bit of a hint....neither are the courts.

Actually, yes they are, when it comes to Constitutional interpretation.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 38):
The people are the final arbitor of rights, and in the end if too many are stolen from us from people like the Kerry, Schumer, Clinton, and all the other gun grabbig scum that infect the congress then the people can revolt.

Again, gun grabbing scum? How about Life, Liberty and Property grabbing right wing scum?
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:03 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 39):
For once, I don't think I mind ole useless Don Young winning another election. He's useless, generally, but Benson would be abyssmal. . .

Did you here you latest grip.

The AFN is in town and as part of their conference they have invited several elected politicians to speak. Including the congressional delegation. That includes Don Young.

They have not invited anybody campaigning for any seat, includling Benson and she is pissed, complaining she isn't getting equal time.

Funny part is that she is half Tlinglet
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 36):
On BIG difference, my friend, is those two individual races were too close to call for weeks, if not months.

Not if you turned on the TV in 2004 about 4PM and listened to the following networks:

ABC (All Bill Clinton)
NBC (Nothing but Clinton)
CBS (Clinton Broadcasting System)

ALL CLAIM EXIT POLLING VICTORIES for John Kerry.

Too close to call for weeks? I'd say these same media outlets who were claiming back then it was too close to call are the ones saying it's no contest today.

Look closely. Everyday these polls are getting closer. We are still two some weeks out.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 36):
And I was not being sarcastic when I said I like your optimism. That's not a bad thing at all.

Never thought it for a second. You make it darn obvious when you are being sarcastic!!
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 40):
How about Life, Liberty and Property grabbing right wing scum?

Hey it was the left wing of the USSC that pushed the Eminent Domain ruling through.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 40):
Actually, yes they are, when it comes to Constitutional interpretation.

Again, that assumes the people actuall listen to them. The more nonsensical their rulings are the less people will.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 41):
They have not invited anybody campaigning for any seat, includling Benson and she is pissed, complaining she isn't getting equal time.

She's a moron. She oughta quit while she's ahead . . . if her own ethnicity doesn't want her around, what makes her think she's got a snowballs chance if hell in Anchorage or anywhere else. Besides, the native vote is going to Don Young, always has and always will . . . thanks to his wife.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 42):
You make it darn obvious when you are being sarcastic!!

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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:52 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):
Ok, so muskets are legal

At the time of the muster of the militia.

Perhaps you should read the decision now.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):

The Senate are not the final arbiters of the Constitution

1. I included a SCOTUS decision that says the same
2. The congress is the final say on government military, so says the constitution.
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RE: Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans

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