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Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:07 pm

Ginnnah Muhammad of Detroit was looking for her day in court.

Instead, she said she felt as if a judge forced her to choose between her case and her religion in a small-claims dispute in Hamtramck District Court.

A devout Muslim, she wore a niqab -- a scarf and veil to cover her face and head except for her eyes -- Oct. 11 as she contested a rental car company's charging her $2,750 to repair a vehicle after thieves broke into it.

Judge Paul Paruk said he needed to see her face to judge her truthfulness and gave Muhammad, 42, a choice: take off the veil when testifying or the case would be dismissed. She kept the veil on.....Paruk said he offered to let Muhammad, who was born in the United States and converted to Islam at the age of 10, wear the veil during the proceedings except when she testified. He said this was the first time someone had come before his court wearing a niqab, and he noted that many Muslims do not consider it a religious symbol.

Paruk said that as a fact finder, he needs to see the face of a person testifying.

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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:22 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Muhammad, who was born in the United States and converted to Islam at the age of 10

How can a 10-year-old convert to anything ? I think someone was just trying to be difficult  Smile
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:38 pm

Muslim Veil Teacher Loses Case (by RichardPrice Oct 19 2006 in Non Aviation)
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:40 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
Muslim Veil Teacher Loses Case (by RichardPrice Oct 19 2006 in Non Aviation)

Two different issues... read the thread starter.
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:41 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
Muslim Veil Teacher Loses Case (by RichardPrice Oct 19 2006 in Non Aviation)

This is a different case Ted.
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting QR332 (Reply 3):
Two different issues... read the thread starter.

Same subject, diferent case. The thread starter should have made it more obvious this was different. IE Veil Costs Her Claim In Court (Detroit)
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:45 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 5):
Same subject, diferent case. The thread starter should have made it more obvious this was different. IE Veil Costs Her Claim In Court (Detroit)

It is in the first line of the thread Ted....but thanks for your imput, I will take it under advisement.
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:03 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Paruk

Is it just me, or does this sound like an Arab name?
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 7):
Is it just me, or does this sound like an Arab name?

I believe Judge Paruk is of Polish ancestry as he is Chairman of the Board of The National Polish-American Sports Hall of Fame


The city of Hamtramck was and still is a predominately polish enclave withing the city of Detroit.
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 8):

Oh thanks, just curious. I know Detroit has a sizeable Arab-American population.
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 9):
Oh thanks, just curious. I know Detroit has a sizeable Arab-American population.

Actually the Arabs are more centered in the city of Dearborn, the suburb right next to Detroit.
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RE: Veil Costs Her Claim In Court

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 10):

Yeah, but that's like telling most people that I live in Independence, MO. It's easier just to say "Kansas City".  Silly
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