aa757first
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WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:47 pm

Who do you use and how much do they cost? I'm suprised to see how expensive it actually is. T-Moble is $30 a month with a one year contract and AT&T is $20 a month with a one year contract.

Does anyone here use any of them? Are there plenty of locations and do you think the fee is reasonable for the service?

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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:10 pm

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Who do you use and how much do they cost? I'm suprised to see how expensive it actually is. T-Moble is $30 a month with a one year contract and AT&T is $20 a month with a one year contract.

It's actually quite reasonable considering as close as last year they were charging twice that. If access is really important to you, $30 is not that much.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Are there plenty of locations

Most major cities have complete service. This undoubtetly varies between providers, so I would check with them for a specific coverage map.
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:25 pm

Have you ever heard of a small coffee shop named Starbucks? T- mobile is Starbucks wifi provider and most Starbucks have WiFi.

I actualy use this for multiple people, but only one person can be on at a time.
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:33 pm

Quoting AC773 (Reply 1):
Most major cities have complete service. This undoubtetly varies between providers, so I would check with them for a specific coverage map.

The problem lies in places that don't have a full EDGE network. You then are operating at little better than Dial Up speeds.
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:50 pm

A lot of Starbucks still have Swisscom as providor and they charge heavy. LH still has an agreement with Vodafone in their lounges and it is € 3,50 for 30 minutes, € 5,50 overseas.

My providor is T-mobile and wherever they have their hotspots it is easy to check in and pay per minute. Fraport for instance has T-Mobile almost anywhere in their terminals (not at gate B54)
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:17 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
(not at gate B54)

Why not at gate B54??

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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:47 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 5):
Why not at gate B54??

It is a ground level bus gate, really crummy, I think it is 54-59 actually, several gates in a row and by chance I had gate B54 for a flight to DUB last Friday and again departing to BHX on Tuesday. Wonder what the odds are for this.

WiFi does not reach there
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:19 pm

best thing you can do for wifi is buy a card like this:



or this:



The differences? none really. The dell is about $25 from a site (where I got mine) and the bottom one is about $80-$115 from sites online.

The dell uses the same chipset as the bottom one, so getting the dell is much more cost effective. now what makes these cards good? external antenna!

There is a jack on them to connect a external antenna. for about $55 plus shipping, i'll be getting a antenna to do just that, and I can stick it up on a truck, or just set it in a window to pull in the signals.

These cards are the only ones that work great with a program called netstumbler that scans a area for open and encrypted wifi links.

murky? yep, as it's free net access, but there are places like holiday inn's, super 8 motels, etc that offer free wifi. I sat in a starbucks in barstow across from barstow station (has a mcdonalds in it) and puked at the $30 or $9.95 day pass tmobile wanted to sell :p

the linksys card I use is weak (internal antenna) but it pulled in a super 8 motel signal strong enough to send a email and IM to my brother in vegas before closing up and hitting the road again! with the new antenna system i'll have, it will be alot better!

due to the amount of wifi networks around, and unsecured ones, I think it pays more to invest in some better equipment and avoid the high fees charged at hotspots. if all you are doing is sending a quick email to a business partner/friend/family member or getting on AIM, why pay so much for it? I bet you could even probably get access from the premium lounges in airport lounges airports offer with enough luck  

You can find several "free and legal" wifi access points if you are good enough and have the right equipment 

edit: both cards do have internal antennas also, just to clear that up before people ask! anyone who is interested in them, send me a email or something and i'll send you the link to the dell one for $25. i'm not affliated with the site, just want to help others out! I won't post the link on here and violate any rules/get eyebrows raised about spam postings!

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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:33 pm

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 7):
best thing you can do for wifi is buy a card like this:

nothing new about this. I had one from Nokia with a Vodafone contract a couple of years ago. Since they are dial up analog modems, itb took ages for a connection to build up. The new ones are hetter but still not the answer. A notebook with centrino is far better and independent from a provider,
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:32 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 8):
nothing new about this. I had one from Nokia with a Vodafone contract a couple of years ago. Since they are dial up analog modems, itb took ages for a connection to build up. The new ones are hetter but still not the answer. A notebook with centrino is far better and independent from a provider,

this is a card for a notebook  Wink it goes into the card slot on modern notebooks. it sounds like you are talking about a phone from what you said. I don't see what a cellphone has to do with a wifi card also being dial up? wifi isn't dialup.....  scratchchin 
 
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:38 pm

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 7):
murky? yep, as it's free net access, but there are places like holiday inn's, super 8 motels, etc that offer free wifi. I sat in a starbucks in barstow across from barstow station (has a mcdonalds in it) and puked at the $30 or $9.95 day pass tmobile wanted to sell :p

Are there any usage restrictions, such as how much data can be sent/recieved?
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RE: WiFi Service

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:42 pm

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 9):

this is a card for a notebook Wink it goes into the card slot on modern notebooks. it sounds like you are talking about a phone from what you said. I don't see what a cellphone has to do with a wifi card also be

Exactly, it goes into the card slot of the notebook, you need a providor contract for the sim card and it dials up over a phone connection, so you can access the net from almost anywhere. The original Nokia D211 GPRS WLAN is an analogue system and it was bloody slow. I had a 2 year contract and I trashed the thing after 2 months, no use.

There is a better -digital- system available now, but when you have a centrino equippped notebook, you actually don't need that.
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RichPhitzwell
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RE: WiFi Service

Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:43 pm

Quoting Tmatt95 (Reply 10):
Are there any usage restrictions, such as how much data can be sent/recieved?

If its free its free, if its not then its is on a hour/day/month/year basis. The level of data sent/recievied is up to the network, sometimes fast, sometimes not but usually no additional charge.

We should make a distinction between wifi 802.11x found at most hotels and businesses and wifi provided by cell phone companies.

Edge is a standard for certain cell phones and is still lower that 802.11 X (any of them) but for text and small downloads it works great is no other alternative is available....imagine being on a very secure base...ok scratch that nothing works on a very secure base!

As for what kind of card to buy... this matters very little, a standard is a standard is a standard and differences are small between low end retail cards. I personally use a Sony card because of the low profile, but a longer antenna will work better.
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