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UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:32 pm

Quote from BBC-
Two British children have been found dead in a hotel room on the island of Corfu, Greek police have said.

Their parents were taken to a local hospital after being discovered alive but unconscious in the same room.

A coroner arrived at the hotel along with the emergency services but the cause of the children's deaths is not yet known.

The family, who have not been named, were staying at a hotel in the village of Gouvia.



Gas leak maybe?? very sad May they R.I.P

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:47 pm

Tragic news. I have stayed in Gouvia. Toxicologists will be performing tests this afternoon. Hopefully the parents will come out of the coma's.
 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:55 pm

Quoting Jamesbuk (Thread starter):
Gas leak maybe??

Carbon Monoxide I'd bet. Althought natural gas is colorless and odorless, in the states we add a chemical called Mercaptan, that gives it the sulfery rotten egg small. If it were a gas leak, they'd likely have smelled that.

I lost a soldier, his wife and their three children in Wiesbaden in 1983 to Carbon Monoxide. Quite a shame. They went to sleep and just never woke up. That was a horrible scene . . .

My sympathies.
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:08 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Carbon Monoxide I'd bet.

Sounds quite likely - I remember a few years back a spate of problems in resorts in Spain with faulty or poorly installed/ventilated gas water heaters.

Horrible story, let's hope they get to the bottom of it quickly.
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:55 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Carbon Monoxide I'd bet.



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
Sounds quite likely

BBC lunchtime news reported that this was unlikely
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:46 am

The family came from Horbury in West Yorkshire.

A police spokesman said: “The doctor says it’s poison. We are still investigating but a possible cause could be mushrooms."

Looks like the poison was ingested.

[Edited 2006-10-26 17:49:55]
 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:58 am

How very, very sad. May the family Rest in Peace  pray  tombstone 

Quoting 9V (Reply 5):
Looks like the poison was ingested.

More that likely unless they find unexplainable bruises, spots or marks like injection marks on the bodies.

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:11 am

Terrible news. Sounds to me like it could have been their evening meal, as cleaners usually go around rooms in the morning. Very sad situation.

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:41 am

Note that gas (in very small cans) is only used for making (Greek) coffee in Greece, there is no gas distribution except for a very few Athenians.
Seafood or mushrooms could possibly be listed as possible causes.
 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
in the states we add a chemical called Mercaptan, that gives it the sulfery rotten egg small

They do that in the UK as well...
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:49 am

How very sad.  Sad It would also make sense if the deaths were poison related, unfortunately because the children's bodies are smaller they would not have been able to cope with as much as the adults. Tragic  tombstone 

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:56 am

What I can't understand is why the parents didn't go for help. The pathologist said the kids had been dead for around 10 hours. The chalet next door heard a rumpus. I guess time will tell but the toxicology results are going to take 20 days!  Sad
 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:58 am

Quoting 9V (Reply 11):
What I can't understand is why the parents didn't go for help

Perhaps the children seemed fine when they went to bed. The parents were also under the influence of the poison. They are still in a coma
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:24 am

Horrible tragedy! May the children rest in peace.  pray 

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
I lost a soldier, his wife and their three children in Wiesbaden in 1983 to Carbon Monoxide

Dont even want to know how terrible that must have been.

Sounds like this was poison of some type to me. In warmer climates (??) the houses are usually not well sealed against the elements, and therefore the poisons cant accumulate as rapidly.
 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:03 am

Quoting 9V (Reply 11):
What I can't understand is why the parents didn't go for help

They could well have all been asleep.
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 14):
They could well have all been asleep.

Not according to the people in the chalet next door!
 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
resorts in Spain

.... while Corfu is in Greece
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting 9V (Reply 11):

Hmm maybe the kids could've gone to bed, died. The parents could be enjoying there family in more way than one, as they thought the children were sleeping they wouldnt have checked in on them at anytime.

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:51 am

According to the BBC, the parents were poisoned as well, and were in a coma. They are currently in hospital. Suspicions over a suicide pact have been raised, though it is probably too early to make any judgment.
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:51 am

Quoting 9V (Reply 15):
Not according to the people in the chalet next door!

Sorry where did you hear this???

BBC just reported on the 10 oclock news that the little girl was found dead in her fathers arms. Also a British plumber is over and investigated the boiler which was found to be leaking a kind of gas.. interesting..
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:55 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Carbon Monoxide I'd bet.

My guess as well.
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:15 am

Quoting Iakobos (Reply 8):
Seafood or mushrooms could possibly be listed as possible causes.

Yeah thats what I thought - but in hindsight - And we don't know the details yet - It is very possible that Carbon Monoxide is the reason. But in Appts in Greece I have never seen any form of heating appliances ?? The weather looked to be warm and therefore where would the Carbon Monoxide come from?

I would doubt that it was a suicide pact -Why book a holiday to do that ?

Tragic news - Thought about it all day. So sad.
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:34 am

Quote from the BBC- "The father of two British children who apparently died from poisoning during a Greek holiday and his partner have both regained consciousness.

But Neil Shepherd and Ruth Beatson, both of W Yorks, have yet to be told of the deaths of Robert Shepherd, six, and sister Christianne, seven.

The coroner in the island of Corfu investigating the two deaths said the cause was possibly a gas leak.

He said food poisoning was ruled out but awaits the full results of tests."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6092812.stm

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:37 am

{Playing devils advocate here for a moment}

Quoting Femme (Reply 21):
I would doubt that it was a suicide pact -Why book a holiday to do that ?

Well Frankly to make it seem less plausable, espically if the poisoning theory were correct. Even thou it is not at this point


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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:24 am

Very sad news! I stayed there in the same village last summer on vacation in Corfu. A pity that this has happened. RIP  Sad.

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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:49 pm

It is confirmed - carbon monoxide poisoning is the COD  Sad

The police are preparing to issue charges of negligent manslaughter against the hotel...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6093714.stm



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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:55 am

Quoting Femme (Reply 21):
The weather looked to be warm and therefore where would the Carbon Monoxide come from?

Even those that live in hot countries use hot water for washing & bathing. yes 
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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:00 pm

Update, "manslaughter" charges brought...

The owner, manager and two maintenance staff at the hotel in Corfu where two British children died are facing manslaughter charges, police say.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6094856.stm



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RE: UK Children Found Dead In Corfu

Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:23 pm

Good Lord that's awful. So so sad. Damn.

may the kids RIP and thoughts and prayers with their family.

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