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George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:27 am

It looks like George is getting desperate.



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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:46 am

And George Allen is...? (just for some background).
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:51 am

See, the GOP thinks a constituent going up to his own Senator and asking an "impertinant" question is grounds for physical intimidation. Keep in mind this was not hotel staff attacking him, telling him to leave, it was Allen's own goons.
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:54 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
And George Allen is...? (just for some background).

US Senator from Virginia who's running for re-election. Accused of being racist. He's trying really hard to keep past personal secrets really secret.

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:58 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 3):
US Senator from Virginia who's running for re-election. Accused of being racist. He's trying really hard to keep past personal secrets really secret.

The "macaca" guy ? Oh dear. Clarity dawns...
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:12 am

This makes me wonder...

Would you all be on the side of the hecklers that threw Oreo Cookies at Michael Steele?
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:40 am

I would say that Mr. Allen chances of getting the 2008 GOP nomination is less than zero at this point. Perhaps Mr. Allen should go back to reading novels.
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:43 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 5):
Would you all be on the side of the hecklers that threw Oreo Cookies at Michael Steele?

No but of course that never happened. It's right wing fiction.

But really who cares? Steele is getting his oreo ass kicked up one side and down the other by a Dem challenger.

Strike another GOP seat down.
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:52 am

At least the Oreo incident (if it happened) was clever and inventive. This is just bullying plain and simple. No wonder Webb is surging in the polls.

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 7):
But really who cares? Steele is getting his oreo ass kicked up one side and down the other by a Dem challenger.

Strike another GOP seat down.

Actually, a little correction...The MD Senate seat is an open one. Open because Paul Sarbanes (Democrat) is retiring.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:52 am

What I can't figure out is why George Allen is still ahead in the polls.

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:55 am

A short, fat, balding, bespeckled, GOP thug. Damn, was that Carl Rove?
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:00 am

Allen is sinking. Much like Nanook's Article 4 argument...LOL

The last four polls:

* CNN, 10/29: Webb (D) 50%--46% Allen (R)
* Rasmussen, 10/29: Webb 51%--46% Allen
* Zogby Internet, 10/29: Webb 51%--47.2% Allen
* DSCC internal, 10/29: Webb 47%--43% Allen
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:04 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 7):
No but of course that never happened. It's right wing fiction.

Gee Artie.. I never thought you were one to outright LIE...just twist the truth. Now we have it in Black and white. You Lie when the facts don't fit your outlook.

http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20051101-104932-4054r.htm

During the 2002 campaign, Democratic supporters pelted Mr. Steele with Oreo cookies during a gubernatorial debate at Morgan State University in Baltimore.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 8):
Actually, a little correction...The MD Senate seat is an open one. Open because Paul Sarbanes (Democrat) is retiring.

Artie needs alot of correcting.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 11):
Allen is sinking. Much like Nanook's Article 4 argument...LOL

The last four polls:

* CNN, 10/29: Webb (D) 50%--46% Allen (R)
* Rasmussen, 10/29: Webb 51%--46% Allen
* Zogby Internet, 10/29: Webb 51%--47.2% Allen
* DSCC internal, 10/29: Webb 47%--43% Allen

The fact of the matter, at this point the only poll that counts is next Tuesday, which candidate gets his supporters to vote will determine the winner.
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:11 am

Tell you what UA cabin service. Get me some names? Who was charged?

I'll leave these boards never to return again if you can back up anthing you say..LOL. And I don't care what a right wing paper owned by Moonies has to say about it.

Your daddy and owner of the Wash Times

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It's fiction.
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:16 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 11):
Allen is sinking.

I see that, now.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2006/senate/#va

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 15):
I see that, now.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...e/#va

It's also interesting if you click on the "all polls" button - all the earlier polls show red for Allen, then it switches quite recently to being blue for Webb. It's only be a fairly recent switchover, too.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 14):
Tell you what UA cabin service. Get me some names? Who was charged?

CHARGED? Tell you what Artie, tell me the name of that guy in the video? It looks like a set to me. Was anyone charged? The "thugs" the heckler"?

Am I NOT to believe it becuase there was no one charged?

Hey everyone! Don't believe this video. No One was charged, we have no names, so obviously it didn't happen according to Artie's criteria.


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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:22 am

No problem UA I'll have that info to you soon. Too bad I won't be getting likewise from you.....man you're 0-4 today.

"From 8NEWS

Charges have been filed against the men who allegedly roughed up a heckler at a George Allen campaign stop.



Mike Stark, a UVA law student, says the men put him in a choke hold and threw him out of the room after he asked Allen about a rumor that the senator had spit on his first wife.



Now, Stark is demanding legal action. Stark says, "He's been quoted as saying these things happen in campaigns. These things happen in campaigns? These things happen in third world countries."



Allen's campaign is defending their actions, saying stark was being aggressive and asking "inappropriate questions."
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:18 am

#1. That punk had previously stated in his blog that he was intent in causing an incident with Allen. He's lucky he did not do that in Roanoke or some other good ol' boy county, 'casue they would've booted his face in and the Sheriff would've just stood by and said "....he asked for it".

#2. Let's not forget that in the VA primary, Jim Webb produced and mailed a cartoon of his Jewish opponent depicting him with a long nose and money coming out of his pockets, calling him the ‘anti-Christ of outsourcing’. His Democrat opponent, and the Democratic Leadership, rightly condemned this anti-Semitic ploy.

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:34 am

Quoting RAPCON (Reply 19):
Jewish opponent

George Allen is a Stars-and-Bars Presbyterian. Remember what he said in September: "I still had a ham sandwich for lunch. And my mother made great pork chops."

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:56 am

What a rip off, the guy just falls down, I wanted to see some punches thrown!  box   duck 
 
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:09 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 18):
Charges have been filed against the men who allegedly roughed up a heckler at a George Allen campaign stop.

This guy seriously needs to drop this issue. Just by watching the video it's clear that he was aggressivly provocing an incident. His blog makes it clear it was premeditated. He could very quickly find himself charged with disorderly conduct if not inciting a riot.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:10 am

I see a few of the same righties who ream Kerry for WORDS, are trying to let the Allen camp off easy for this ugly incident.

Hypocrites.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:19 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 23):
I see a few of the same righties who ream Kerry for WORDS, are trying to let the Allen camp off easy for this ugly incident.

Hypocrites.

objection.

irrelavent.

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 24):
objection.

irrelavent.

How so? It's absolutely relavent. They're hypocrits, and their words bear that out.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 23):
I see a few of the same righties who ream Kerry for WORDS, are trying to let the Allen camp off easy for this ugly incident.

Hypocrites.

Ugly incident?

Please, enough overblowing.

Both parties in this affair are guilty. The law student was clearly acting to provoke an incident, and the Allen guys clearly were being thugish.

Charge both sides, or let both sides walk.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:02 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 26):
Please, enough overblowing.

Both parties in this affair are guilty. The law student was clearly acting to provoke an incident, and the Allen guys clearly were being thugish.

Charge both sides, or let both sides walk.

True.

This may sound naive but the Sen. could've let the guy ask his question and then reply with "that's irrelevant". What does an altercation between a candidate/incumbent and their spouse have to do with anything, anyway? If the guy persisted with nonsensical questions, then hotel security could've been called (where were they anyway?).

I know this is hind sight and all but maybe in the future such a confrontation could be handled this way.

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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:17 am

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 27):
I know this is hind sight and all but maybe in the future such a confrontation could be handled this way.

That's absolutely the way it should be handled.
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RE: George Allen's Hired Thugs - Video

Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:31 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 20):
George Allen is a Stars-and-Bars Presbyterian.

.....if you had taken the time to read my post correctly, you would've noticed the words "PRIMARY". I was talking about Webb's opponent in the "PRIMARY"!!
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