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Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:40 am

I just got a cool 1952 Western Electric Rotary telephone to put on my desk. I know I know people are going to make fun of me, but it looks so cool. Here is the question. The telephone doesn't have a plug on it so I just ran the wires into the box on the wall. The telephone has a green, red, and yellow wire. The green and red wire I attached to the red and green wires in my modern phone connection box. I was able to make and receive calls. The ringer didn't work, so I attached the yellow wire to my green wire at the connection box and the ringer worked. Is it safe to have it wired that way? My house has a yellow and black wire, but it is only for a second phone line which, these are also the only wires coming off the pole into the house.

Why does the ringer on this phone work when I have it attached to the green wire?
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:56 am

Falstaff, check out this document, it may apply to you: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/pdf/500_modification.pdf
and of course the main page http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/telephones-500.html

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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:15 am

Quoting WSOY (Reply 1):
Falstaff, check out this document, it may apply to you: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/pdf/500_modification.pdf
and of course the main page http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/te....html

That helped out perfectly. The guy had a hook up guide for the Western Electric 500CD, which is what I have, and it turns out I hooked it up correctly. The yellow wire connects to green except when it was used with a party line then it went to a separate yellow wire.
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:08 am

Those classic phones are great. They weigh a ton, too.  Smile
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:44 am

Can I get one with a speed dial?  Wink
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting WSOY (Reply 1):
Falstaff, check out this document, it may apply to you: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/pdf/500_modification.pdf
and of course the main page http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/te....html

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Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:17 am

You just have to love a 'good old days' site like that.

The divestiture of AT&T (A.K.A. "Ma Bell") was very costly both to AT&T, the Baby Bells and the consumer. Litigation costs alone for AT&T up to the January 8, 1982 announcement of divestiture was 360 million dollars along with an additional 15 million dollars of costs to the federal government. But the costs didn't stop there. To get an idea of just how costly this was to both the former Bell System companies and the consumer, see this excerpt from the book "The Rape of Ma Bell."

I guess if doing the right thing is expensive, it must be wrong?
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:57 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 3):
Those classic phones are great. They weigh a ton, too.

Here it is The 1952 Western Electric CD-500!

Big version: Width: 654 Height: 554 File size: 220kb


I was talking to my girlfriend tonight and she told me she never used a rotary phone and had never heard a telephone with a real bell in it. She had to come over and see it. She is 26. I am 30 and I never used one because I had to, but if I would see one around I would use it just to say I did. As far as phones with real bells My parents had phones in the 80s from Rocky Mountain Bell that were touch tone desk phones with real bells We had a red one and a tan one. I think they were made by ITT.

I saw a rotary pay phone at a bar in Detroit (Grand River and Telegraph) earlier this year. It was functional too.

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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 4):
Can I get one with a speed dial?

Like other households in the mid-1960's, we had only one phone in our home. It was black, heavy, and had a metal dial. The dial was attached to a centrifugal governor that limited how fast each number could be dialed and how fast it returned to "neutral." The whole thing was made of Bakelite and weighed a few pounds. The receiver weighed so much that I had to use two hands to hold it up to my ear.

Back then, phones were still considered somewhat "special." Kids had to ask their parent's permission to call someone and couldn't answer the phone unless told to do so by an adult.

Calling someone within my phone exchange was easy. I only had to dial the last four numbers of the seven-digit phone number.

Back then, the phone company owned the phone, wire, everything. If you wanted to move or add a phone jack, you had to hire the phone company to do it. It was illegal to do it yourself. It was also illegal to attach a phone, ringer, or other equipment that wasn't provided and installed by them.

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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:06 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 8):
I only had to dial the last four numbers of the seven-digit phone number.

When I lived in Warrensburg, Missouri (1995-1998) I only had to dial the last four numbers to reach anyone in my exchange.
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:15 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 8):
Like other households in the mid-1960's, we had only one phone in our home. It was black, heavy, and had a metal dial. The dial was attached to a centrifugal governor that limited how fast each number could be dialed and how fast it returned to "neutral." The whole thing was made of Bakelite and weighed a few pounds. The receiver weighed so much that I had to use two hands to hold it up to my ear.

Back then, phones were still considered somewhat "special." Kids had to ask their parent's permission to call someone and couldn't answer the phone unless told to do so by an adult.

Calling someone within my phone exchange was easy. I only had to dial the last four numbers of the seven-digit phone number.

Back then, the phone company owned the phone, wire, everything. If you wanted to move or add a phone jack, you had to hire the phone company to do it. It was illegal to do it yourself. It was also illegal to attach a phone, ringer, or other equipment that wasn't provided and installed by them.

What!?! No party line?
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:21 am

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 10):
What!?! No party line?

We had a party line for about six months. Mom and dad forked out the bucks for a private line after the phone company received complaints that us kids were listening in on the neighbor's calls.

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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 11):
We had a party line for about six months. Mom and dad forked out the bucks for a private line after the phone company received complaints that us kids were listening in on the neighbor's calls.

Ahh yes back in the good old days when phone numbers started with letters...

I decided to put a phone in my parents garage... Ma Bell didn't like that idea much...
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
I know I know people are going to make fun of me, but it looks so cool.

Actually, I think it would be pretty cool to have one of them again (just one though)
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:18 pm

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 5):
WSOY, are you a train spotter?
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RE: Hooking Up A Rotary Phone To A Modern Line

Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:35 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 11):
We had a party line for about six months. Mom and dad forked out the bucks for a private line after the phone company received complaints that us kids were listening in on the neighbor's calls

I had a friend who lived in Tipton, Missouri (just off of US 50) that had a party line until 1998.

My mom had a party line at her house in the early 50s and her mom and dad got a private line for the same reason as your parents.
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