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BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:25 am

It is the start of week 3 of our game. I mentioned in the previous thread that a new and more "fair" points system will now be used. This is what it is based on:


Original Projection...............................20 Points
Kept Projection...................................12 Points
Revised Projection................................-8 Points
Team Victory.......................................12 Points per team
Team defeat.......................................-12 points per team
Team in the Top Ten BCS.....................10 points for 1st place, 9 for 2nd place and so on (For example, Michigan=9 points, 2nd in the BCS)
Both your teams make it to Glendale........45 Points
Your Projection comes true.....................80 Points

That being said, here are the NEW Standings:

1. Chrisjake: OSU over Michigan…………..20+12+10+9+24=………75 Points
2. CMHSRQ: OSU over Michigan………….20+12+10+9+24=………75 Points
3. DeltaGator: Gators over OSU................20+12+24+7+10=……….73 Points
4. AC320: Gators over Michigan…………..20+12+24+7+9=…………72 Points
5. TPAflyer: Gators over OSU…………….20-8+24+10+7=…………..53 Points
6. GarnetPalmetto: OSU over Gators…….20-8+24+10+7=………….53 Points
7. Piercey: Rutgers over OSU…………….20-8+24+10+5=…………..51 Points
8. Nonrevman: OSU over West Virginia…..20+12+10+3=…………...45 Points
9. Falcon84: OSU over Louisville …………..20+12+1+10=………….43 Points
10. AirCop: Boise State over Rutgers………..20-8+24+6=……………42 Points
11. Halls120: OSU over Texas……………….20+12+10=…………….42 Points
12. Garri767: Texas over OSU………………20+12+10=………………42 Points
13. USPIT10L: West Virginia over OSU…….20+12+10=………………42 Points
14. FXramper: Texas over Michigan…………20+12+9=……………...41 Points
15. KAUSpilot: Texas over Michigan………..20+12+9=……………….41 Points
16. Boston92: OSU over Texas…………….20-8+10=………………….24 Points


Man, I really SUCK. I will have to change my projection yet again. If you need to change your projection or if you want to post a new projection, feel free to.

P.S. If you have a team that does have 'byes' left, you will gain points for keeping your projection but no points will be added for victories or defeats.

That is it I think, let the game and argument continue!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:34 am

Interesting that USC has not made the list, although I hope someone else makes it to the big game. It is nice to see some different teams going for it. I wonder what will happen if Rutgers does run the table. Would they be allowed to play for the title or would they be skipped because they are not an "established" BCS team. Of course, they still have to play three games, one of them being West Virginia.
 
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:02 am

Quoting Nonrevman (Reply 1):
Of course, they still have to play three games, one of them being West Virginia.

Allow me to start the chant on WVU:

OVERRATED!!!!!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:24 am

Quoting Piercey (Reply 2):
OVERRATED!!!!!

I think we are actually agreeing on something.

WVU does infact = OVERRATED
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:25 pm

I'm keeping Gators over OSU as my choice.

Quoting Nonrevman (Reply 1):
I wonder what will happen if Rutgers does run the table. Would they be allowed to play for the title or would they be skipped because they are not an "established" BCS team.

It's not so much that they aren't an established BCS team it is that their schedule is weak thus allowing them to obtain that possible undefeated season though I do think they will lose to WVU. The computer polss taking into account strength of schedule and such punish them for playing Howard, UConn, UNC, etc. while teams like Florida are rewarded for playing so many ranked teams and tough opponents from the SEC.

The only way they make the championship game is if OSU and UM were both to lose (impossible at this point) and they and possibly Boise State were left as the only unbeatens. Even then I think they would be shut out of it based on strength of schedule. Or Hell, just let them play for it and we'll have a playoff in place next year due to the bogusness of the title game at that point.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:17 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
It's not so much that they aren't an established BCS team it is that their schedule is weak thus allowing them to obtain that possible undefeated season

Yeah, if they do run the table, it will mean they are better than Louisville and WVU, but they have not proven that they can be ranked as good or better than teams like UM, OSU, USC, Florida, and Notre Dame; the Top 5 right now.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 5):
UM, OSU, USC,

Make that OSU then UM!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:47 am

My new projection is:

OSU [way] over Arkansas
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:05 pm

new prediction

OSU over Michigan
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 8):
OSU over Michigan

Ya know, each week this prediction becomes more and more possible; BUT I don't think I am convinced just yet.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:39 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 9):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 8):
OSU over Michigan

Ya know, each week this prediction becomes more and more possible; BUT I don't think I am convinced just yet.

If this week's matchup is a close one, and both teams win the remainder of their games, then it is a real possibility - especially if Michigan beats OSU by 3 points or less.

If it's a blowout, the BCS will be the OSU-Mich winner against either USC or Arkansas.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:43 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 10):
against either USC or Arkansas.

As much as you hate to agree; if the Um OSU is a blowout, it will be UM-OSU winner vs either [winner of USC vs ND] or the [winner of Florida vs Arkansas].

Sorry, but ND is not out of it yet.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 11):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 10):
against either USC or Arkansas.

As much as you hate to agree; if the Um OSU is a blowout, it will be UM-OSU winner vs either [winner of USC vs ND] or the [winner of Florida vs Arkansas].

Sorry, but ND is not out of it yet.

Your scenario is still viable as well.

You better hope that USC beats Cal, though. If they don't, a ND victory over SC won't mean squat.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:24 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 12):
You better hope that USC beats Cal, though. If they don't, a ND victory over SC won't mean squat.

True, but even if Cal beats USC, ND will move up to #4 anyway. Florida loses to Arkansas and they move to #3. Michigan and OSU is a blowout and Notre Dame is #2.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:43 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 10):
If this week's matchup is a close one, and both teams win the remainder of their games, then it is a real possibility - especially if Michigan beats OSU by 3 points or less.

That would be awesome. Just one catch with that theory...

The OSU/Michigan game is the last game of the regular season for both teams, so it comes down to this game. The loser doesn't have a chance to make up for it. The next game for each team will be their respective bowl games.

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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:51 am

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 14):
The OSU/Michigan game is the last game of the regular season for both teams

Thats what I thought, I just did not to look like an ass if I was wrong!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:24 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 10):

If this week's matchup is a close one, and both teams win the remainder of their games, then it is a real possibility -

 confused  Isn't this the season ending game for both Ohio State and Michigan, so therefore how can they both win? Legal advice please...

USC appears on a roll after the last two games, Cal offense looked crappy against the Arizona Mildcats. If USC does win this week, I see them playing OSU in Glendale.

This week pick: The Ohio State University v. University of Southern California.
 
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:32 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 16):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 10):

If this week's matchup is a close one, and both teams win the remainder of their games, then it is a real possibility -

Isn't this the season ending game for both Ohio State and Michigan, so therefore how can they both win? Legal advice please...

LOL, OK, so I don't have my schedules straight. Didn't realize this was the season ender for both.

However, let's say Michigan beats OSU by 3 points. If among the remaining contenders, no one emerges as a worthy opponent, I see an OSU-Michigan BCS title game.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 16):
USC appears on a roll after the last two games

As much as everybody hates to agree, USC will have a tough game vs Notre Dame. With the one USC game that Weis has coached, it was something like 30-27 and that was a with a way better QB than Booty. My guess is ND will beat USC but will be #3 right after Arkansas and OSU.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 14):
That would be awesome. Just one catch with that theory...

The OSU/Michigan game is the last game of the regular season for both teams, so it comes down to this game. The loser doesn't have a chance to make up for it. The next game for each team will be their respective bowl games.

DeltaRules

You are correct, however if you look at the BCS numbers. OSU is just .003 a head of Michigan in the polls. The computer actually ranks OSU #3 Michigan #1 and Rutgers #2.

# 3 USC is a full .1036 behind Michigan. Which is a huge gap, like others have said, if it's a close game no matter who wins the chances of OSU-UM is good.

If you ask me, we should just bring the BCS trophy to Columbus this weekend and settle it.

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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:00 am

UPDATES FOR THIS WEEK

Boston92: OSU over Arkansas
Halls120: OSU over Michigan
AirCop: OSU over USC
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 20):
UPDATES FOR THIS WEEK

Boston92: OSU over Arkansas
Halls120: OSU over Michigan
AirCop: OSU over USC

New Projections will be taken until the kickoff of the Florida VS. Western Carolina game at 12 noon on Saturday.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:53 am

Still staying with mine...UF over OSU
 
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:38 pm

Just thought of something, all of you who claim that ND will lose big to USC and have a projection that includes Florida, you are wrong. There is no way that Florida can even dream about a BCS title spot without ND beating USC. ND will be there toughest opponent, CAL and UCLA will be blowouts.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:23 am

OSU beating Um by a field goal. I am still not convinced that UM will stay #2. They will drop to #3, or #4, and with a ND win over USC, thats opens UM to then move back up to #2 and a shot at the BCS Champ.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:44 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 24):
OSU beating Um by a field goal. I am still not convinced that UM will stay #2. They will drop to #3, or #4, and with a ND win over USC, thats opens UM to then move back up to #2 and a shot at the BCS Champ.

Too early to say, but Michigan didn't do much to make a case for staying #2, despite the close score. I think at this point my revised prediction is in some jeopardy, but I'll stay with it because we have many more games to go before the dust settles.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 25):
Too early to say, but Michigan didn't do much to make a case for staying #2, despite the close score.

Whether they made a case or not they shouldn't be allowed to play for the title. If you can't beat them in the last game of the season you don't deserve to play them again a month later.

I'm hoping for a USC loss tonight to Cal which would allow UF to go to #2 and then pray to the football gods that we can beat FSU and Arkansas to make it to Glendale.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:05 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 26):
I'm hoping for a USC loss tonight to Cal which would allow UF to go to #2 and then pray to the football gods that we can beat FSU and Arkansas to make it to Glendale.

I don't see USC being able to run the table the next three weeks, so you may very well get your wish.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:16 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 27):
I don't see USC being able to run the table the next three weeks, so you may very well get your wish.

I see them beating CAL (right now it is 5-2 in favor of USC), but I do see a very even match up vs ND next week. It should be a very good game. I think the fact that ND has a ton of departing seniors this year, they will do anything and everything to come up with a win.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:15 am

Cal sure fell from grace that last two weeks, the qb is awful..Probably lose to Stanford next week, and end up in the Elko Bowl or something like that.
 
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 29):
Probably lose to Stanford next week

I would not go THAT far to losing to a team like Stanford!!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:06 am

ESPN poll just came out and it is utter crap!

Michigan only drops to #3. I'm fine with USC going to #2 since they beat a ranked team and we demolished a 1-AA team but come the Hell on pollsters! #3!? WTF!? Everyone else who has been #2 or #3 and lost has dropped a good ways down but not this time? Bulls**t! Let's see what happens with the AP and Harris polls in a little bit and then the BCS poll later on but this first little bit really chaps my ass.

I don't want to see an OSU-UM rematch in January dammit!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:09 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 31):

I could not have said it better myself.

One question: That ESPN poll is not taken into consideration in the BCS computer rankings, right?
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 32):
One question: That ESPN poll is not taken into consideration in the BCS computer rankings, right?

No, you're thinking the AP poll. Someone created the Harris Poll after the AP asked not to be used in the BCS rankings.

As much crap as I've given you about the Irish I find myself in a very weird predicament of cheering for you all to beat USC, but just by a little bit. Hopefully that with us beating FSU in TallaCRAPee and then Arkansas in the SEC title game will be enough to vault us ahead of those losers from Ann Arbor.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:21 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 33):
but just by a little bit

All right, I'll take that!!

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 33):
No, you're thinking the AP poll. Someone created the Harris Poll after the AP asked not to be used in the BCS rankings.

No, I knew the AP was, but when you said ESPN, I did not realize you meant the Harris.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:19 am

Oh this is freakin' rich! The AP poll just came out and Michigan only dropped to #2 and USC is #3 and then Florida at #4.

Well, that's it. We'll end up with a stupid ass rematch that nobody outside of a bunch of fat sausage eating Midwesterners and a wine cooler drinking coach in his 1980's era thin tie will give a rat's ass about. Damn you NCAA Division 1 schools for not having a playoff. You suck more than anything has sucked before with this bullshit!

The BCS might be the "best" system we have right now but it's still a piece of flaming dog poo.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:50 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 35):
Michigan only dropped to #2

Dropped? This sucks.

The coaches poll came out too, and USC is 2, UM 3.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:10 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 36):
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 35):
Michigan only dropped to #2

Dropped? This sucks.

My bad. They didn't move at all. What a f***ing joke!

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 36):
The coaches poll came out too, and USC is 2, UM 3.

The Coaches Poll is the ESPN poll mentioned earlier. It has too many damn names. Coaches/ESPN/CNN/USA Today. BCS poll itself should be out soon once they release the Harris Poll for this week.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:48 am

How do you rank a USC team that lost to Oregon State, ahead of a Florida team that lost to Auburn?? Michigan had their shot at OSU, they do not deserve to be in the title game.
 
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:26 am

Quoting TPAflyer (Reply 38):
How do you rank a USC team that lost to Oregon State, ahead of a Florida team that lost to Auburn??

Strength of schedule. It is not all about wins and losses. Schedules, stats, and unfortunately, bias voters, all have to be put into consideration.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:22 am

BCS rankings finally out. Michigan loses but goes from #3 in the BCS up to #2? How the Hell do I get a job where I can use retarded math like this stuff. I say we march on the NCAA offices and demand a playoff system. This whole thing is bulls**t if UM gets another chance to beat OSU.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:44 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 40):
if UM gets another chance to beat OSU.

I dont' see how they would not be able to play in the National Championship if they are #2 in the BCS. They are done for the season and no one else should be able to catch them. This really does suck.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:51 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 41):
I dont' see how they would not be able to play in the National Championship if they are #2 in the BCS. They are done for the season and no one else should be able to catch them.

If we win out against FSU and a highly ranked team in Arkansas plus have USC lose to ND then I don't see how we couldn't get to #2. Michigan didn't exactly have a tough schedule this year though they are a good team. It just isn't fair that a loser could play the team that beat them again.

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 41):
This really does suck.

Like a golfball through a garden hose and the BCS isn't even kind enough to give us a reacharound. Those bastards!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:00 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 42):
If we win out against FSU and a highly ranked team in Arkansas plus have USC lose to ND then I don't see how we couldn't get to #2. Michigan didn't exactly have a tough schedule this year though they are a good team. It just isn't fair that a loser could play the team that beat them again.

I just don't see how they would move UM down for having a bye, but then keep them at number 2 for losing. I think I will just get tickets to the Rose Bowl, that should be a better game anyway!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:04 pm

Right now OSU and UM are the best teams out there simple as that.

As the original the the first predictor of the title game I still take OSU over Michigan AGAIN in the BCS title game.

However if USC wins out the BCS game will most likely be OSU over USC

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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:06 pm

One quick question has a team ever been ranked 1.0000 in the BCS ? Ever? well OSU is. hahahahahha GO BUCKS!!!!
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:30 pm

I don't understand the anger in the polls. Michigan lost, by 3, to the #1 team in the country on the road. Michigan's schedule is as tough as Florida's, and USC's, maybe moreso to this point in the year. Trust me I HATE U of M (I grew up in a Michigan State household), but they are one of the 2 best teams in the country. I think a rematch, on neutral turf would be very interesting. Michigan has beaten 2 teams that at the end of the season are in the top 10 in the BCS (Wisconsin and Notre Dame) 3 teams in the top 25 (add Penn State), Florida has 1 win over a top 10 team (LSU), and has lost to a top 25 teal (Auburn) and one extra win to a top 25 team (Tennesee). USC has beaten 1 top 10 (Arkansas), and 1 more top 25 team (California), and lost to a team that isn't ranked. Looking at it from a break down this way, I think currently UofM has an edge. Should Florida and USC win out, all three are, arguably, deserving.
 
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:17 pm

Quoting MUWarriors (Reply 46):
Michigan's schedule is as tough as Florida's, and USC's, maybe moreso to this point in the year. T

No it isn't. You seem to forget that Florida has to play a top 5 team in 2 weeks plus the untangibles like a poorly playing FSU team that will do anything to beat us in Tallahassee, a Georgia team that has struggled this year but then beat the crap out of a highly ranked Auburn, and an Alabama team that has the talent but for some reason the wheels fell off after last season's great year.

Quoting MUWarriors (Reply 46):
I don't understand the anger in the polls. Michigan lost, by 3, to the #1 team in the country on the road.

The anger is nobody outside of a few million folks in the Midwest will give a damn about a rematch. Look for the lowest rated college championship ever if it is a rematch.

Quoting MUWarriors (Reply 46):
I think a rematch, on neutral turf would be very interesting.

Booooorrrrrrriiiiinnnnnnnggggggg. Michigan doesn't deserve another chance. They couldn't beat them the first so let someone else have a chance. It's just one more thing to push us towards a playoff system.

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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:12 pm

If Michigan is allowed to play Ohio State again, and loses. Then there is going to be an uproar if a 1 loss Florida, USC, Notre Dame, or Arkansas is left out of the mix.

Michigan already played Ohio State and lost. They have no games left to prove they are more worthy than other teams for a January match up in the Championship. I think teams that have one loss that still have games remaining have more of an argument for inclusion than Michigan.

The Big 10 has NO championship game. However many people claimed Saturday's game was the Big 10 championship. It should be treated as such. The winner get's the automatic bid, the looser should be treated as an at large bid, and not get ranked as high as the other schools champion team.


The BCS will have a new BC naming scheme if Michigan is allowed to play Ohio State again without having played another game to prove their worthiness.
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RE: BCS Bowl Projections Game Week 3

Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:01 am

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 48):
The BCS will have a new BC naming scheme if Michigan is allowed to play Ohio State again without having played another game to prove their worthiness.

If that happens I'm voting for the "Piece of Worthless Crap Championship." No offense to the Buckeyes but Michigan had their chance and was lacking. Let someone else take a stab at that wine cooler loving coach in red.
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