brettbrett21
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Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:02 pm

Hey all

I've been forced to take a gap year before returning to uni in September and as this might be the only time in my life that I have a free year to do as I please I'd love to go to Australia and New Zealand for a couple of months.

How easy would it be to get a job in somewhere like Sydney or Auckland? Preferably as something like a bar tender or a waiter, something simple that will allow me to get by and enjoy my time abroad. I know there's some restriction on the amount of time you can be employed and what not but I just wanted to know how difficult it would be to find casual work while away?

I appreciate any comments as this is something I really want to do, Australia and New Zealand look like amazing places and it would be a shame just to spend another year at home doing a regular job.


Cheers!

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:56 am

While I dont know about the availability of jobs per say, but I know the immigration/visa issues shouldnt be to bad. Especially with the commonwealth connections the UK/NZ/AU share, I know there is a backpackers visa which allows basically what you are looking for. www.immi.gov.au I believe is the Australian Immigration webpage.
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:40 am

waitor/bartender here earn AUD9 per hour
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HKGKaiTak
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:41 am

Plenty of Brits come this way for a gap year holiday ... easy to get jobs. You just need a working holiday visa, which I believe is not difficult to get.

Also, if you do some agricultural jobs (eg fruit picking), you could even turn your 1 yr visa into 2 yrs.

Certainly plenty of work to be had in the more rural areas. Still, plenty of cafes and pubs have Poms behind the counter/bar in the big cities.

Whilst you're here, why not travel round the countries and not limit yourselves to SYD and AKL?
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 2):
waitor/bartender here earn AUD9 per hour

Not really Flyboy, bartenders do get a good wage as they work casual. Well above $20ph in some places
 
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:15 pm

Jobs as a fruit picker are common in NZ for students (have a few freinds doing it) however, you would be hard pressed finding a job like that in AKL.

These sites MAY help you out

http://www.seek.co.nz

http://www.netcheck.co.nz

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:18 pm

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Thread starter):
How easy would it be to get a job in somewhere like Sydney or Auckland?

Relatively easy, depending on your skills. In order to work in a bar you need to have a particular qualification called an RSA (responsible service of alcohol), and any other bar training is a plus.

If you have any connections, you can get lucky and get paid cash in hand, but it's always safer to get the working visa.

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 1):
Especially with the commonwealth connections the UK/NZ/AU share

Actually this is irrelevant. The Commonwealth of Nations has no inter-visa program. Britons have as much of an opportunity to work here as people from Sierra Leone or Panama.

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 2):
waitor/bartender here earn AUD9 per hour

What?!?! Maybe a 14 year old washing up glasses is on that, but not a bartender or waiter! You'd be looking at a MINIMUM of $15 an hour.

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:14 pm

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 5):

In addition to that, something I looked into was WWOF, or Willing Workers for Organic Farms. Basically you don't get paid, but you have your lodging and food provided by the farm and it didn't appear that you had to work all day everyday so it left some good free time for enjoying yourself.

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:13 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 6):

Relatively easy, depending on your skills. In order to work in a bar you need to have a particular qualification called an RSA (responsible service of alcohol), and any other bar training is a plus.

As it is I have no experience working behind a bar, although when I'm 100% certain that I'll be going I will be able to get some experience. They run one day courses to get the RSE license in Sydney and also some Bar Skills training days courses. Hopefully with these I'll be able to get a job somewhere, there has to be hundreds of places in Sydney?!

Thanks for everyone's help so far!
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:32 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 8):
Hopefully with these I'll be able to get a job somewhere, there has to be hundreds of places in Sydney?!

Absolutely.

So I guess you've chosen Sydney. Any thoughts as to where abouts within the city you'd like to base yourself from?

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:43 am

Not sure yet, the whole city look great though. Ideally I'd like to be in the heart of the nightlife and centre of the city although I haven't had a chance to look into it properly. I'll probably end up just living out of a hostel for most of my stay as I don't really want to be tied down with too much and would love to explore. I like to be in the heart of the action though, as busy as possible.

Do you have any recommendation of places to go and things to do?
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:13 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 10):
. Ideally I'd like to be in the heart of the nightlife and centre of the city although I haven't had a chance to look into it properly.

Plenty of cheap accommodation in the city, if you're into sharing a 2-bedroom apartment with 10 other people!

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 10):
Do you have any recommendation of places to go and things to do?

Whatever you do, just don't fall for BridgeClimb - the ultimate tourist rip-off IMHO.
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brettbrett21
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:22 am

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 11):
Whatever you do, just don't fall for BridgeClimb - the ultimate tourist rip-off IMHO.

Haha that's one of the first things I thought of doing! Just checked the price though...wow that's expensive!
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 10):
Do you have any recommendation of places to go and things to do?

Just live like a local. Sure, you can take a drive out of the city and see a bloody kangaroo, but Sydney has such an active day to day calendar you can just sit back and enjoy.

Sydney has a certain energy - you'll know what I mean when you get here. This isn't disneyland, this is somewhere that people seriously get down to business, live hard and play hard.

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:37 pm

- visit around the darling harbour - it has IMAX
- Showboat - AUD$110 per person...nice steamy boat, watch the show, and great dinner meals (starters (it has kangaroo meats), main meals choice - half lobster, beef with mash potato, pasta with chicken, desserts: 5 slice of cakes)...wow that's a lot!
- climb harbour bridge or SYD tower
- Flying boat
- Shopping!!!!
- The Rock
- Market in Chinatown
- Museums
-Star City - casino

NZ...it's a must...it's the most beautiful country in the world. Dont miss out! NZers are more friendly than aussie.



Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 6):
What?!?! Maybe a 14 year old washing up glasses is on that, but not a bartender or waiter! You'd be looking at a MINIMUM of $15 an hour.

WTF...i was 18 years old and i earned $9 per hour in the darling harbour resturant as a kitchenhand (dinner only). That's not fair!
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:16 pm

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 14):
WTF...i was 18 years old and i earned $9 per hour in the darling harbour resturant as a kitchenhand (dinner only). That's not fair!

LOL flyboy. Even kiddies working at McDonalds don't get paid $9 an hour today. Though a lot has changed in term eployment relations

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 14):
- visit around the darling harbour - it has IMAX
- Showboat - AUD$110 per person...nice steamy boat, watch the show, and great dinner meals (starters (it has kangaroo meats), main meals choice - half lobster, beef with mash potato, pasta with chicken, desserts: 5 slice of cakes)...wow that's a lot!
- climb harbour bridge or SYD tower
- Flying boat
- Shopping!!!!
- The Rock
- Market in Chinatown
- Museums
-Star City - casino

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brettbrett21
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:21 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 13):
Sydney has a certain energy - you'll know what I mean when you get here. This isn't disneyland, this is somewhere that people seriously get down to business, live hard and play hard.

I feel like that about New York, it just has a certain something that I love, hopefully Sydney will have that same energy. Kings Cross looks like a good base, although I've heard it referred to as the red light district......although I'm not sure if that's good or bad?!  Wink

Are there any areas of Sydney that would be considered ''no-go'' areas, e.g Brixton in London...or most of London!
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:53 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 12):
Just checked the price though...wow that's expensive!

Instead of BridgeClimb, try going to the south-east pylon of the Harbour Bridge, only cost you $12.50 and the view is almost exactly the same.

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 14):
- Showboat - AUD$110 per person...nice steamy boat, watch the show, and great dinner meals (starters (it has kangaroo meats), main meals choice - half lobster, beef with mash potato, pasta with chicken, desserts: 5 slice of cakes)...wow that's a lot!

Would this excite someone in their late teens, early 20s??? To be honest I can't think of a more boring night out (nor a more expensive one, either). It's a waste of a good cruise to be watching the show on the harbour.

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 16):
Kings Cross looks like a good base, although I've heard it referred to as the red light district......although I'm not sure if that's good or bad?!

Are there any areas of Sydney that would be considered ''no-go'' areas, e.g Brixton in London...or most of London!

The Cross is full of nightclubs etc, yes it is a bit of a red light district but I don't think it's that bad. Having said that, I've never lived there.

As for no-go areas, apparently you shouldn't go to Lakemba, Macquarie Fields, Redfern ................ (at least that's what the media says)
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:56 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 16):
Kings Cross looks like a good base, although I've heard it referred to as the red light district......although I'm not sure if that's good or bad?!

Hahahahaha! Lots of my tourist friends said that the hostels are cheap and King Cross has lots of backpackers, cheap internet shops, travel agent and foreign people around. That's right...However, it's the not safe for them to stay there. It has lots of prostitutes, drug dealers and sex clubs, bars and shops. I always avoid going there. I guess you are looking for hostels? maybe it's in downtown or haymarket? It costs about $15-$20 per night i guess.

[Edited 2006-11-23 00:01:25]
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 14):
NZ...it's a must...it's the most beautiful country in the world. Dont miss out! NZers are more friendly than aussie

Totally agree Big grin
 
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:09 am

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 18):
That's right...However, it's the not safe for them to stay there

Rubbish. Kings Cross probably has more police patrols, better lighting, and more security cameras than any part of Sydney. If you walk a little further afield from the sex clubs (which are highly regulated btw), you'll discover this fantastic little bohemian village. Also just to clarify, you will not find street prostitutes in the centre of Kings Cross. It just doesn't happen. Kings Cross has thousands of tourists staying there throughout the year. If it was unsafe that would not be the case.

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 16):
Are there any areas of Sydney that would be considered ''no-go'' areas, e.g Brixton in London...or most of London!

There is one place - Eveleigh Street, Redfern. It's directly opposite Redfern train station. During the day, you're safe passing opposite (although not through) the street, but at night things turn bad. It is an indigenous street, and there's a lot of violence, and a lot of alcohol.

Other than Redfern, there are certain places in Western Sydney like Macquarie Fields and Lakemba that you don't want to visit - but you'll probably never get to these areas anyway.

The inner central business district is absolutely 99% safe. I have no problems walking through the inner city at night alone. You'll be fine.

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 14):
WTF...i was 18 years old and i earned $9 per hour in the darling harbour resturant as a kitchenhand (dinner only). That's not fair!

I don't believe that's fair, no. If you're over 21 there's NO WAY you can earn less than (I think) $14 an hour.

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 14):
Dont miss out! NZers are more friendly than aussie.

What an incredibly stupid thing to say. How can you make such sweeping statements in light of the assistance we Australians have shown this young Briton?

Yes, New Zealand is a fantastic country and the people are great. But let's not whip it out and grab a tape measure just yet, eh boys?

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 20):
Western Sydney like Macquarie Fields and Lakemba that you don't want to visit -

LOL true there is nothing to see in these suburbs anyway. BTW the Campbelltown region has the largest population of English/British people living in Sydney

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Thread starter):

hey there,

firstly i think you need to check this web page (if u havn't alredy done so dat is Big grin):

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...tedkingdomworkingholidayscheme.htm

this link will basicly give you information about the working holiday visa that the NZ immigration gives to people particularly like ur self. Get one of these and you'll be sorted for the whole legal side of finding work. A good place to get a job as a bartender would be Queenstown. Quite a few brits go there when they are here on gap year and stuff. Being based out of Auckland or Wellington would be quite good as well but im not too sure of how easy it would be to get a job. I hope this will be of help to you

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:12 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 20):
There is one place - Eveleigh Street, Redfern. It's directly opposite Redfern train station. During the day, you're safe passing opposite (although not through) the street, but at night things turn bad. It is an indigenous street, and there's a lot of violence, and a lot of alcohol.

It's hard to image there being ''violent'' areas of Sydney, Aussies just seem so laid back!

Does anyone know how long it would take for a visa to process, ideally I'd like to head out mid-to-late January to catch the height of the summer...and skip the height of our winter!

Also, a slightly weirder question......you hear a lot about all the dangerous things in Australia like snakes, spiders etc which don't particularly bother me, however...I have a slight...eeerrrr....dislike of frogs (very weird, I know). How likely am I to come across them in the city centre?

Thanks for all your help so far
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:10 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 23):
dislike of frogs (very weird, I know). How likely am I to come across them in the city centre?

Well you won't see any of that in the city unless you go a wildlife park or something like that. So nothing really to worry about here in Sydney unless you visit Northern Queensland
 
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:45 am

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 21):
BTW the Campbelltown region has the largest population of English/British people living in Sydney

Hmmm.

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 23):
It's hard to image there being ''violent'' areas of Sydney, Aussies just seem so laid back!

You'll find that is a false stereotype (and an increasingly annoying one), especially in the case of Sydney. We work longer hours on a per capita basis than any other OECD country. We're not a lazy country at all.

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 23):
Also, a slightly weirder question......you hear a lot about all the dangerous things in Australia like snakes, spiders etc which don't particularly bother me, however...I have a slight...eeerrrr....dislike of frogs (very weird, I know). How likely am I to come across them in the city centre?

Heh, I know you asked the question in seriousness - but I did giggle.

Frogs, spiders, and snakes are not things you'll find in the city centre. I've lived in Sydney for more than 20 years and I have NEVER seen a dangerous wild snake, spider, or (err) frog here.

You'll find those if you go out into the Bush, but Sydney has one of the largest suburban areas in the world - it's extremely urbanised. I can assure you, the Sydney metropolitan area has been tamed. Nature and wildlife documentaries probably wouldn't be bought by international tv networks if they admitted this, so they try and portray Australia as some desolate killing field.

Of course there are snakes, spiders, and (um) frogs - but unless you go out stomping in bushland wearing a blindfold you'll be quite safe.

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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:35 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 25):
Heh, I know you asked the question in seriousness - but I did giggle.

Haha be kind! That's what I thought any way, but as you said TV documentaries and the rest don't like to portray the real world.

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 25):

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 23):
It's hard to image there being ''violent'' areas of Sydney, Aussies just seem so laid back!

You'll find that is a false stereotype (and an increasingly annoying one), especially in the case of Sydney. We work longer hours on a per capita basis than any other OECD country. We're not a lazy country at all.

Ah sorry I didn't mean lazy, just meant that nearly every Aussie I've ever come across has been friendly and easy-going, not lazy. What do I know anyway...I'm scared of frogs!  Wink
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 25):
Frogs, spiders, and snakes are not things you'll find in the city centre. I've lived in Sydney for more than 20 years and I have NEVER seen a dangerous wild snake, spider, or (err) frog here.

You said you have lived in SYD (what area?), we know there are lots of spiders and few frogs in our old suburb area and Sydney as well. When I was the class, there was a big furry spider (looked like a dangerour spider) and lizard walking around our classrooms. I was really scared.

I am sure that SYD downtown never have the dangerous wild snakes, spiders and frogs. You will be alright.
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RE: Gap Year Jobs In Australia/new Zealand

Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:15 am

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 27):
You said you have lived in SYD (what area?)

Kirribilli, but of course I've travelled around the city, stayed with friends in semi-rural suburbs (Wentworth Falls, Frenchs Forest etc). I know that there are some snakes in bushland around these areas but I've certainly never encountered one.

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 26):
Ah sorry I didn't mean lazy

And I think I've probably just demonstrated how highly-strung some of us Australians can be. So much work to get through today - argh!

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