Falcon84
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Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:31 am

Talk about some ungrateful, thankless human beings. These two really top the list.

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a...81809990004?ncid=NWS00010000000001

No, they did nothing illegal, but thier smug, unrepentant attitude is appalling, and they should remember the old saying: "what goes around, comes around".

To take the charity of others and to cash in on it, I guess is somewhat the American way, but it's repugnant to me.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:43 am

Sounds like con artists to me.

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
o take the charity of others and to cash in on it, I guess is somewhat the American way, but it's repugnant to me.

Would have to agreed.
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:44 am

Unfortunately there will always be people taking advantage of the system and make it bad for those who truly need it.

Another case of the few giving the rest a bad name.

Hang 'em.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:46 am

Methinks the flock at that church got fleeced  wink .....

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:48 am

Would it be possible to take legal action against the pair of Aholes?
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:53 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 4):
Would it be possible to take legal action against the pair of Aholes?

Guess the church is looking into it, but in this case, they should just turn the other cheek. They were honestly charitable, so let these losers take the low road. The church should just let it go.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 3):
Methinks the flock at that church got fleeced

... and sheared.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 4):
Would it be possible to take legal action against the pair of Aholes?

It depends on whose name is on the deed. If the church has part-ownership of the house, land, or both, then yes. If the whole works was completely titled to the family free and clear, then no. The church should have included some stipulations in the contract: Must occupy the house for 5 years, may not sell for 5 years, etc.

The new owner is screwed, too. A judge's order could prevent them from taking possession and/or moving in.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
The church should just let it go.

But karma will catch up with them and hopefully just as bad.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:47 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
To take the charity of others and to cash in on it, I guess is somewhat the American way, but it's repugnant to me.

This is the exact opposite of the American way. All this does is make me dislike New Orleans and it's welfare population even more.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
To take the charity of others and to cash in on it, I guess is somewhat the American way, but it's repugnant to me

Nooo, not necessarily the American way, but it's damn sure the way for most of the population of NOLA and environs . . . relynig on the Gov't Tit for decades, nothing has changed except the taste of the milk.

New Orleans (for the most part - in deference to our friends there) is indicative of a Welfare State. Gimme, gimme, gimme . . . .

What a bunch of losers . . .
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:34 am

   Wow, thats f'd up.

This BS only feeds people's negative opinions and generalizations about New Orleans and its residents. Which is unfair of course because there are also positive stories coming out of New Orleans (even here on A.net posted by our friends MSYtristar and Tom). But I suppose it's easier not to listen to them when you already have made up your mind.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:43 pm

It's disappointing to know that, as noted above, a few bad apples can spoil the public's perception of the whole bunch. And, as we all know, perception and reality can be two vastly different things.

The vast, vast majority of people around here are law abiding citizens, citizens who aren't out to screw the system. As is true everywhere, the news leans most heavily towards negative news, which is the obvious mechanism from which the outside public develops their perceptions. Realities are vastly different.

How refreshing it was yesterday to see a full page in USA Today devoted to the reopening of the New Orleans Fairgrounds racetrack, the nation's third oldest racetrack, after repairing its storm damage. But I'm sure few heard of, or paid any attention to, that bit of news.

And I'm with Dave.....that IS messed up.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:25 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 11):
The vast, vast majority of people around here are law abiding citizens, citizens who aren't out to screw the system

Then how do you explain the problems in Houston and other areas that have taken in the refugees or even the behavior of those in NO after the storm?
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:31 am

You know the only other word that might be more offensive then the N bomb is lynch/lynching. These two deserve a fate at the hands of the church members.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:07 am

My comment said "vast majority", not "everyone".....and obviously Katrina refugees didn't help, but the crime rate in Houston was going up pre-Katrina.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:51 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 7):
But karma will catch up with them and hopefully just as bad

I certainly hope so
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:32 pm

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
but the crime rate in Houston was going up pre-Katrina.

Not to mention the inability of Houston to look at the actions of its own law enforcement.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:42 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
but the crime rate in Houston was going up pre-Katrina.

Not to mention the inability of Houston to look at the actions of its own law enforcement.

I'll defer comment to IAH777, and my retired friend Col Dave that lives in Houston . . .

But, ummm, it was pretty well documented that the crime rate jumped markedly in Houston AFTER the Katrina "survivors" were shuttled off to live on the Gov't dole in Houston rather than NOLA.

Sorry gents, I like you both - and you know it - but you can't defend that FACT that Houston's crime rate soared post-Katrina . . .

Including Aid workers cars getting stolen right out of the parking lots of the places they were working, by the very people they were helping. Yup, that really says "Thank you Houston".

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:06 pm

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
and obviously Katrina refugees didn't help, but the crime rate in Houston was going up pre-Katrina.

Yes, but it didn't spike until the hijacked school buses started rolling in.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Not to mention the inability of Houston to look at the actions of its own law enforcement.

Since when is our law enforcement any different than the rest of the nation? What, specifically, are you referring to? We have our bad seeds, but so does every department. An agency is a cross-section of the society it serves and that - unfortunately - includes turds. It also stands to reason that when a civilian coerces another person into a sexual act against their will, it likely won't hit the evening news, but if a cop does so, its the lead story. Nature of the job. We're held to a higher standard, as we "ought to know better." And "they" do look at our fcuk ups. The same DA's office that so aggressively pursues the death penalty also has a special section of bulldogs whose sole job is to prosecute rogue public servants. They are hardly lax. In short, I don't see a sound base for your statement. Especially when you can replace "Houston" with nearly any other jurisdiction in the country.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 17):
it was pretty well documented that the crime rate jumped markedly in Houston AFTER the Katrina "survivors" were shuttled off to live on the Gov't dole in Houston

Ask any Homicide investigator here if the Katrinas have had an impact on their job. Or Robbery. Or Sex Crimes. Or Burglary & Theft. Each of these were overworked pre-Katrina. Robbery and Homicide have had extra positions approved just to deal with the rise. If I had a dollar for every violent crime attributed to an evacuee, I could likely buy everyone in this thread enough rounds to make for one hell of a bender. That's not rumor. That's fact.
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:51 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 4):
Would it be possible to take legal action against the pair of Aholes?

From what it says in the article, there doesn't look like any legal action might be taken. The house was registered under their names and if this is the case, this would be the end of any legal issues. Besides, if this was not the case, they would not be able to sell the house in the first place.

So as it looks, there is nothing legal that the church can do at this time. But it would be interest to see a follow-up on this.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:25 pm

reminds me of the many Katrina "victims" who used the money they'd been given to buy food and clothes for themselves to buy jewelry, stereo sets, and luxury cars instead.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:08 am

It does sound eerily like some kind of scam, but nonetheless being displaced from your home and community can be traumatic and there are instances where people will take any steps necessary to return home.
Conversely, the culture of some of the new orleans refugees is definately an indulgent and selfish one, and even when gifted with charitable generosity they will flaunt their gains.
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:49 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 17):

As they say over here "You can take the person out of the council house, But you cant take the council house out of the person"

Which basically means Once people become rough like that you''ll never get it out of them.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:53 am

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 12):
Then how do you explain the problems in Houston and other areas that have taken in the refugees or even the behavior of those in NO after the storm?



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
My comment said "vast majority", not "everyone".....and obviously Katrina refugees didn't help, but the crime rate in Houston was going up pre-Katrina.

You also have to remember that most of the people who had to take refuge in places like Houston and Atlanta were from the poorer neighborhoods of NOLA, and those neighborhoods had higher crime areas (as it is with many, if not most, big cities)...when a high crime neighborhood moves into a new city, often into those places high crime areas, the crime just keeps rising. I've seen it happen a couples times.
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:52 am

Quoting SW733 (Reply 23):
You also have to remember that most of the people who had to take refuge in places like Houston and Atlanta were from the poorer neighborhoods of NOLA,

Actually, I seem to recall an article in the 'Houston Barnicle' some Sundays back comparing the refug...ooops...sorry Mistress Oprah, evacuees....in Atlanta to those in Houston. It seems that a larger portion of NOLA's affluent made their way to ATL (by their own means, car, pvt plane, ect...) compared to NOLA's not so prosperous population that were arriving in Houston by the bus load.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:51 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
but the crime rate in Houston was going up pre-Katrina.

Source please.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Not to mention the inability of Houston to look at the actions of its own law enforcement.

What are you talking about?
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
not to mention the inability of Houston to look at the actions of its own law enforcement.

This statement is totally without warrant - uncalled for - especially from someone who passes himself off as highly educated. In plain English, your post is horseshit. Houston's own law enforcement - like most any law enforcement agency in the country - is largely a product of the local politicians.

Houston is what, the 4th largest city in the country. HPD has 5,000 officers. And there are a dozen plus other active agencies in the area. Take a like sized agency like LAPD. Your statement is like saying "LAPD beats black people."

My brother was HPD. His stress came from too much of "Houston looking at the actions of its own." His stress did not come from wearing a bullet-proof vest to work.

My mom - at her Houston winter residence - was robbed in February. The ghetto turds that robbed her had a Louisiana license plate. Using your logic "Louisiana failed to teach it citizens not to steal." Oh, and that ghetto turd is lucky my brother did not get hold of him. Because nobody steals from a retired school teacher - especially not my mom. That ghetto turd is lucky my mom did not heed her family's advice and get a CHL because she would have done society a favor and offed him.

The rest would have been janitorial work.

Using your logic "Louisiana failed to teach its citizens"

Its horseshit, man. So, please do us a favor and recant it.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:55 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 25):
What are you talking about?
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[quote=FlyingTexan,reply=26]This statement is totally without warrant - uncalled for - especially from someone who passes himself off as highly educated. In plain English, your post is horseshit. Houston's own law enforcement - like most any law enforcement agency in the country - is largely a product of the local politicians.

Houston is what, the 4th largest city in the country. HPD has 5,000 officers. And there are a dozen plus other active agencies in the area. Take a like sized agency like LAPD. Your statement is like saying "LAPD beats black people."

My brother was HPD. His stress came from too much of "Houston looking at the actions of its own." His stress did not come from wearing a bullet-proof vest to work.

My mom - at her Houston winter residence - was robbed in February. The ghetto turds that robbed her had a Louisiana license plate. Using your logic "Louisiana failed to teach it citizens not to steal." Oh, and that ghetto turd is lucky my brother did not get hold of him. Because nobody steals from a retired school teacher - especially not my mom. That ghetto turd is lucky my mom did not heed her family's advice and get a CHL because she would have done society a favor and offed him.

The rest would have been janitorial work.

Using your logic "Louisiana failed to teach its citizens"

Its horseshit, man. So, please do us a favor and recant it.

JR

Guys, take his comments about Houston with a grain-of-salt as he is a renowned Houston/Texas basher.

Looking at the stellar histories of the LAPD and NOPD, the HPD are friggin boy scouts.

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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:38 am

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 24):
It seems that a larger portion of NOLA's affluent made their way to ATL (by their own means, car, pvt plane, ect...) compared to NOLA's not so prosperous population that were arriving in Houston by the bus load.

Very good point. I was hesitant to throw Atlanta in, but I knew my statement was more or less true with Houston.
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:39 am

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 27):
the HPD are friggin boy scouts

I'm still left wondering what was meant by the "look at the actions of their own" comment. I am chaste and pure and do not associate with anyone who colors outside the lines.  angel 
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:59 pm

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 27):
Guys, take his comments about Houston with a grain-of-salt as he is a renowned Houston/Texas basher.

Yeah, true that. He is a Houston basher.
But I just don’t get some people. After this tragedy happened no other city stepped up to the plate. Katrina evacuees were hungry and Houston gave them food, they were thirsty and Houston gave them drink, they were strangers but Houston welcomed them, they were sick and Houston cared for them. IMO A simple thank you would suffice but instead we get high crime and complaints. But don’t get me wrong if a tragedy like this happened again, I would expect nothing less but a similar response from Houston in spite of NOLA’s ungratefulness.
 
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RE: Needy Katrina Refugees Sell Home Given To Them

Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:00 pm

Quoting Wingscrubber (Reply 21):
Conversely, the culture of some of the new orleans refugees is definately an indulgent and selfish one, and even when gifted with charitable generosity they will flaunt their gains.

In many areas crime went through the roof when the first NOLA "refugees" arrived and is only now starting to go down now that they're mostly either gone or behind bars...
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