Dougloid
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Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:45 pm

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Farm animals more damaging to climate than cars: UN
29.nov.06
Agence France Presse
ROME -- A report released today by the Rome-based Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) was cited as concluding that the livestock industry contributes more to the greenhouse effect than cars, and is major source of soil and water degradation, stating, "The livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent than transport."
FAO was further cited as saying that by this yardstick, livestock now accounts for 18 percent of man-made carbon emissions, driven by the surge in demand for meat and dairy products.
Global meat production is set to more than double from 229 million tonnes in 2001 to 465 million tonnes in 2050, according to a UN projection. Milk output is projected to soar from 580 million to 1,043 million tonnes over the same period.
Livestock also accounts for 37 percent of all human-induced methane, which is 23 times as warming as CO2 and is largely produced by the digestive system of ruminants, and for 64 percent of ammonia, a big contributor to acid rain.
Not only that, but livestock's demand for feed crops contributes to biodiversity loss.
The report proposes to increase the efficiency of livestock production and feed crop agriculture, and to improve animals' diets to reduce fermentation and consequent methane emissions.
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:49 pm

Oh great... I have SUVs, trucks, and cattle.

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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:35 am

Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):
"The livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent than transport."

I personally think this whole thing is a load of crap.....

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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):
livestock industry contributes more to the greenhouse effect than cars

Don't tell the Democrats.  shhh 
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:51 am

Its not just the effect of driving the SUV that you need to concider... the amount of Energy required to build an SUV is immense!
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:06 am

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 3):
Don't tell the Democrats.

PETA is a Republican group?

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 4):
Its not just the effect of driving the SUV that you need to concider... the amount of Energy required to build an SUV is immense!

You know, all cars should be banned, and only bikes allowed for personal transportation.

Hmm...has no one seriously proposed that before?
 
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:25 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 5):

So basically you propse we should go back in time roughly 90-100 years?  Wink

Basically I think that people should be paid about £3000 for buying a fuel efficient car.

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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:52 am

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 6):
Basically I think that people should be paid about £3000 for buying a fuel efficient car.

There are tax rebates and other incentives used here in the US for those who buy hybrids.

But, yes, I was joking about going back 100 years. Though I presume some would suggest exactly that.
 
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:41 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 5):
only bikes allowed for personal transportation

I don't know about anyone else, but my personal methane production goes up when I am physically active, such as when I'm riding my bike.
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:32 am

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 8):
Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 5):
only bikes allowed for personal transportation

I don't know about anyone else, but my personal methane production goes up when I am physically active, such as when I'm riding my bike.

Good point, only solar powered bicycles allowed!!!
 
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:41 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 7):
Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 6):
Basically I think that people should be paid about £3000 for buying a fuel efficient car.

There are tax rebates and other incentives used here in the US for those who buy hybrids.

Story on the news today that tht is capped at 60,000 cars per mfr and Toyota's bitching because they've reached the limit and want it extended...

How many of you will buy a Prius without the tax kickback....I mean, without the rest of us poor schmucks having to subsidize you?

Sheesh...talk about soaking the poor to bankroll the rich....
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 10):
How many of you will buy a Prius without the tax kickback

I'd gladly by a hybrid without the tax break. Not a Prius though.
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 10):
How many of you will buy a Prius without the tax kickback.

I wouldn't buy a Prius with or without a tax break. If they came out with a truck that was a hybrid but still had the same power and torque then I'd get that for a tax break.
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:36 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 10):
How many of you will buy a Prius without the tax kickback

I wouldn't buy a Prius WITH a tax rebate. Too small and butt ugly.

Now, when it's time to replace my Acura TL, I'll look closely at whatever hybrid offerings there are in that size class.
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RE: Step Away From That Cheeseburger And Buy An SUV!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:55 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 10):
How many of you will buy a Prius without the tax kickback....

Id go for a sporty Toyota Corolla over the Prius anyday. Besides, Im perfectly happy with the car I have now.

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