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The New 007 Wants Gay Scene In Next Sequel

Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:13 am

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertain.../story.asp?j=203147264&p=zx3y4797x

Daniel Craig is urging movie bosses to revolutionise the James Bond franchise by including a gay scene involving the superspy in the follow-up to Casino Royale....

...also reportedly told studio chiefs he is prepared to film a full frontal nude scene to please both his male and female admirers.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:23 am

No! James Bond is about women, cool gadgets, and action. Thats what I expect with a 007 movie, not a gay scene.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:27 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
The New 007 Wants Gay Scene In Next Sequel

Why??????????????
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:27 am

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 1):

Wow, that is a bit homophobic... I would agree with you that this may not be the James Bond we know... but this is the 21st century and its no longer Sean Connery and 1967. Its 2006 if Daniel Craig wants to have a gay tryst, all the power to him.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:28 am

Rediculous! He makes it sound as if we all hop in and out of bed with different sexes now. James Bond is straight, women are a big part of the fantasy, they shouldn't be ridded for men!
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:31 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 3):
that is a bit homophobic

Not really. I can see what Futurecaptain is getting at. Asking Bond to be gay for a bit is like asking Elton John to date women. It's just not part of who he is and what he's known for.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:33 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 3):
Its 2006 if Daniel Craig wants to have a gay tryst, all the power to him.

Rubbish!
James Bond is, as others have said, about women and gadgets.
If you want a gay tryst go see Bareback Mountain or whatever it's title is.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 6):
Homosexuality should NOT be made compulsory.

Im not saying it has to be and neither is Craig. Just because he WANTS to do the scene does not make it compulsory.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:41 am

Personally, I think it would ruin the movie, I have nothing against homosexuals, it's just not who Bond is. I would bet that the ratings for that movie would plummet, not because people are homophobic, but because they will have strayed so far off path from what Bond was traditionally, there's no guarantee that I'd see it. It looks like a PC move to me.

Bond was best when it was simple, like the Sean Connery years, and finally Casino Royale went back to that format, not too many gadgets, just good acting and an entertaining plot. I think it's suicide for the Bond image, but who knows, maybe I'm the only one that thinks that.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:43 am

I hear Westy's already camping (quite literally) on Barbara Brocolli's doorstep, waiting to audition for the role of the Bond Boy  Smile
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:44 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
I hear Westy's already camping (quite literally) on Barbara Brocolli's doorstep, waiting to audition for the role of the Bond Boy

Wow, only 9 replies til a Westy joke... must be a record.

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 6):
Homosexuality should NOT be made compulsory.

Dude, I think you should cool out. Just because homosexuality is depicted in a James Bond movie doesn't make it "compulsory." There's a lot of murder in such films too, and the same thing applies

That said, it does seem to me that homosexuality is not part of the character James Bond. I did find it interesting, though, how the recent Casino Royale set up something of a backplot to explain why Bond is such a misogynist. I guess they figured the "well, it's from the 60s" excuse wasn't convincing anymore?  Smile

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 10):
Wow, only 9 replies til a Westy joke... must be a record.

It needed to be said !
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting DrDeke (Reply 11):

Sorry, I prefer old-school Bond - have him do a gal from every country in the next movie...  Wink
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 13):
have him do a gal from every country in the next movie...  

Who do you think he is Superfly or somethin?  Wink
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
Daniel Craig is urging movie bosses to revolutionise the James Bond franchise by including a gay scene involving the superspy in the follow-up to Casino Royale....

Oh, crap. Here I was, happy to have the first Bond actor who could really be faithful to the Ian Fleming vision, and he goes and says something like this.

If you want gay scenes, go see Brokeback Mountain. I have no interest in seeing a gay Bond, and I'm sure EON Productions knows that they will kill the franchise if they try it. I think they will tell Craig to shut up and never mention the idea again, or he's fired.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:18 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
...also reportedly told studio chiefs he is prepared to film a full frontal nude scene to please both his male and fe



Idiot's just angling for more publicity.....nothing more  sarcastic . Must be thinking his fifteen minutes of fame are about up...

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:24 am

This would be totally out of character for James Bond. I'm not a big fan of the movies, having seen only a few, but it would really "destroy" the James Bond character.

And that isn't said to be homophobic, but it is just too out of character for James Bond. It would be like having Rosanne Barr from Rosanne getting a PhD one episode.

And the nude scene is weird too. I think all or almost all James Bond movies are rated PG-13 and a nude scene would make it R.

James Bond is a series of movies very well developed. It would be best to stay with the status quo. If it hasn't needed these elements before, why now?

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:24 am

Oh it would add a bit of intrigue to James Bond. Why stereotype him? He'd still have his straight scenes, so this would only add to the mystery of the man.

This is the 21st century and, lets face it, bisexuals are cool. They're much more interesting that us boring gays and straights.

Daniel Craig has just zoomed to the top of my favourite James Bond list.

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:25 am

I'll ask for Brosnan back if this happens... hell, even for Timothy Dalton! Other people's love life is, unless for example we're on a.net joking about it, nothing that interests me so I don't care who's straight, gay or bi. But James Bond, double-oh (now I know where that came from) seven, in a gay scene? That would be more than just a mistake - it would ruin the film.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 5):
Asking Bond to be gay for a bit is like asking Elton John to date women. It's just not part of who he is and what he's known for.

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:28 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
I hear Westy's already camping (quite literally) on Barbara Brocolli's doorstep, waiting to audition for the role of the Bond Boy

Since I'm already listed in the IMDb, and have a Bacon number of 3 (how queer can you get?!?), I've full confidence that I'm a shoe-in for the role.  bouncy 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:34 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
and have a Bacon number of 3

Getting a restraining order from his make-up artist's dog-groomer's manicurist doesn't count.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:35 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 5):
Asking Bond to be gay for a bit is like asking Elton John to date women. It's just not part of who he is and what he's known for.

IIRC, Elton was once married to a WOMAN.

Everyone's got their panties in a bunch without having the slightest clue what the context of the scene would be... did anyone give any thought to the possibility that the context might be something along the lines of: As the world's ultimate superspy with every "trick" up his sleeve and willing to do anything for the crown, this heterosexual hunk even goes so far as to seduce a gay bad guy to get what he wants... or something like that?

Anyhoo... I think it's be interesting to see.

(edited for typo)

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:36 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 3):

Wow, that is a bit homophobic... I would agree with you that this may not be the James Bond we know... but this is the 21st century and its no longer Sean Connery and 1967.

It has nothing to do with homophobia, and everything to do with ruining a franchise that are cinematic classics. Womanizing is part of the Bond persona, and that shouldn't be cast aside for the sake of political correctness. It makes Bond Bond.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):

Im not saying it has to be and neither is Craig. Just because he WANTS to do the scene does not make it compulsory.

If he wants to do a gay scene, he should do it on his own time or in another movie.

A "Bond boy" would absolutely destroy the Bond persona.
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:41 am

Wow, look at everyone talking about the new James Bond three weeks after the film is released and ticket sales start going down.

Look like it worked.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:44 am

If being a womaniser wasn't that important for Bond anymore, would the next thing to become meaningless be his physical strength? Would a pallid computer kid with a neglected unshaved face screwing some evildoer to "get what he wants" be just as good of a James Bond character as e.g. Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan? I doubt it.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:45 am

Amazing how a topic like this gets 24 replies in less than 2 hours, when others are there out there with minimal replies. Quite funny to see how everyone is attracted to topics with key words such as "gay".

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:47 am

It seems like Craig is a little fruity and wants to use a bond film as an excuse to fulfill his fantasies. Can't he make his own movie for that, and not alter the James Bond personna? I really can't see any motivation for a statement like that, unless he really is gay ("not that there's anything wrong with that").
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:49 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 21):
Getting a restraining order from his make-up artist's dog-groomer's manicurist doesn't count

Blo ... feld  Wink
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:50 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
...also reportedly told studio chiefs he is prepared to film a full frontal nude scene to please both his male and female admirers.

Such pictures of him are everywhere on the net, most came via TMZ the Hollywood 'inside' site.

After having seen it, he needs to leave the pants on. Seriously.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:51 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 24):
Wow, look at everyone talking about the new James Bond three weeks after the film is released and ticket sales start going down.

Look like it worked.

Sure did, seeing that this thread compelled me to buy tickets to see the movie another six times.
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:59 am

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 22):
IIRC, Elton was once married to a WOMAN.

Completely irrelevant. He's not known for being in to women. He's known for his bad music and for being flamboyantly gay. Same principle applies to Bond. Even if there is this secret, closeted, gay side to Bond, the viewing public don't want that - they want what he's known for; shagging hot women while defeating the bad guy who always says "aahh, meeester Bond, I've beeeen expekting yooo".
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
and have a Bacon number of 3 (how queer can you get?!?)

WTF is a "Bacon number?" he asked, hoping it wasn't a mistake.

Personally, I think there should be a gay scene. I would rejoice if I saw Domino getting chowed-upon by Pussy Galore.   

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:19 am

This can only mean one thing........

Daniel Craig must be a member of A.net!!!  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 32):
WTF is a "Bacon number?"

www.oracleofbacon.org
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:32 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 34):

www.oracleofbacon.org

I think I know what a Bacon number is, but that is one wretched attempt at an explanation. Never, ever let an engineer explain anything!
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:38 am

I'm no homophobe by any stretch of the imagination, but Bond isn't about a gay scene . . . period.

Bond is about bimbos and damsels in distress and secret shit and ultra-cool spy cars and gizmos attached to wrist watches.

Bond is a legacy . . . leave it alone.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:44 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 35):

I think I know what a Bacon number is, but that is one wretched attempt at an explanation. Never, ever let an engineer explain anything!

I would have thought that the homepage for that website alone should be enough. It's pretty self explanatory in my opinion.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:57 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 38):
It's pretty self explanatory in my opinion.

Yes it is to anyone with a smattering of background info. But it would never in a thousand years occur to an engineer that there might be someone who never saw a movie, wouldn't know Kevin Bacon from Adam's off ox, never heard of "six degrees of ..." Nowhere is there a word about anything but the technical aspects of their methodology.

Never let an engineer explain anything.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:04 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 6):
Bareback Mountain

There's actually 2 or 3 gay p0rn flicks in 2006 in that title. Quite lame, however.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 8):
I think it would ruin the movie, I have nothing against homosexuals, it's just not who Bond is.

If this society's persona is changing, why can't Bond do the same?

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 23):
A "Bond boy" would absolutely destroy the Bond persona.

If the "Bond Boy" is feminine, I guess that wouldn't be the problem then
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:09 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 40):
If the "Bond Boy" is feminine, I guess that wouldn't be the problem then

Is that JGPH1A fellow spreading vicious rumours again? I've never dressed in drag!  grumpy 

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:14 am

One Bond film and he thinks he can change the whole direction of the character in a very significant way??

Doesn't he have to get the nod for the second movie first?

Bond+Bum Fun does not work for me....to make a gay Bond work, I think they will need to make other character changes as well.

Having said that, there have been significant changes to the character over the years, just not ones that relate to sexuality. At times he's been suave and refined, at other times, gritty, edgy. At other times, limp and plain, (Timothy Dalton era)
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:41 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 18):
bisexuals are cool.

Nah mate, just greedy  Wink
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:11 pm

Terrible idea, IMO. As others have stated, Bond has built a reputation for being with hot women, fast cars, and cool gadgets... But a guy? Come on, now.
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:29 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 40):
If this society's persona is changing, why can't Bond do the same?

Some things are best just left alone. The original VW Beetle was a huge success, they tried to remodel it, didn't work. In my opinion, some things are just better left the way they are/were.

I've got no problem with Brokeback Mountain #2,3,4,5 etc... But part of the reason I like Bond is because there has been very little change in his personality over the years. He's still a womanizer in the movies, however society no longer sees that as acceptable. I just don't think that they should change his character to fit what the PC cause of the week is.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:31 pm

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 45):
He's still a womanizer in the movies, however society no longer sees that as acceptable.

Not any society outside of a.net... Wink
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:52 pm

there hasn't been a decent Bond movie since Sean Connery stopped making them , so it really wouldn't matter ... does anyone actually bother going to Bond movies anymore anyway?
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:51 pm

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 47):
there hasn't been a decent Bond movie since Sean Connery stopped making them

The Pierce Brosnan ones were nice, though I have never seen the Timothy Dalton Bonds. Just those with Roger Moore, Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 47):
does anyone actually bother going to Bond movies anymore anyway?

Actually yes...
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Personally, I agree that the character of 007 should remain the infamous womaniser and not get a twist. I'm getting the impression that Daniel Craig is trying to give a long running franchise a new twist, but Bond should stay as he is. However, after having watched "Die Another Day", Bond movies tend to become somewhat boring for me, unless I watch re-runs of Tommorow Never Dies, Goldeneye, The World Is Not Enough and of the classic Moore/Connery Bonds. I don't know if I'll ever watch the first Craig Bond. It's almost like with Star Trek, the basic story is the same and has been used for years.

While a twist in new Bonds would be nice as long as they're somewhat reasonable, what Daniel Craig proposes should be out of the question because after all, Bond is probably the world's best womaniser, attracts both good girls and evil girls, and he should stay like that. However maybe the time has come to put an end to the James Bond franchise.
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:51 pm

Okay, so...I'm gay and I kinda oppose to this idea because most of the time films always portrays homosexual's life wrongly (ex. Brokeback). I'm probably the minority of the gay population who finds Brokeback a horrible movie about homosexual love. Anyway, don't flame me.


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