Notar520AC
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Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:35 pm

Hey guys-

Question for the IT gurus. I spend a lot of time on the computer at the office & at home. Computer at the office is a brand new 20" iMac, & I've begun to really like the feel of its keyboard.

My HP PC at home uses a stock HP wireless keyboard, which franky feels like crap and the keys are too small. My fingers actually start to hurt because it's a hard keyboard & not as soft as the Mac's.

I would really like to swap out my home keyboard with a mac keyboard. I know Apple sells separate keyboards. I'm fine with a cord USB one- I don't need the wireless. What do I need to make it work?

Thanks,
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:04 pm

Just a hint for you: recent Intel Macs allow you to natively run Windows XP using boot camp. Boot camp will burn a driver CD for you, which also includes "support for apple keyboards". I would suggest trying to get the driver off that CD, and installing it on your HP PC at home. Just make a recovery point in case it screws up something, but in theory it should work.

I would even try without the driver first: it should work alright, you'd probably only miss some "special" keys.

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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:35 pm

I have yet to try it but as far as I know you can. most of the coomments on the keyboard in the apple store come from people who have done this.
 
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:42 pm

These guys tried it.

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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:46 pm

Quoting KevinL1011 (Reply 3):
These guys tried it.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 
At least they tried

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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:42 pm

Neat. Thanks guys. Going to call the Apple Store today & see if their techies know anything about it.

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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:50 pm

Someone was working on the Mac, so have a look on this: http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-110793.html

I know the Mac 1-button mouse is detected in XP, but is left a bit orphaned for an obvious reason although the cursor moves and the 1 button works.

[Edited 2006-12-07 14:53:18]
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:57 pm

Manu's advice above looks like an excellent idea.

The two main things I like about the Apple keyboard are:

- It doesn't have a "fringe" which takes up desk space without doing anything for you.

- It has a built-in USB hub for your mouse; Keyboard and mouse only need a single USB port (which is one of the reasons why Macs usually don't have as many USB ports as PCs do). It's just a USB1 hub, but it's enough for any input device.

Mechanically it's quite decent (I've used mine intensively for more than three years and it's still working well) although in the more remote past I've had better ones. But the days of "real" key mechanisms are mostly gone, unfortunately...  Sad


A somewhat related tool I've come across recently:
Synergy (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's a cross platform utility which allows you to use the same set of mouse and keyboard across multiple machines at your desk as long as they're on the same local network. Mouse and keyboard are shared (even across Macs, Windows and Linux machines) while each still uses its own screen output.

I'm using it to control my PowerMac G5 and my new MacBook Pro almost as if they were a single machine; Just move the mouse between the screens and keyboard control switches over automatically.

You could use it for your PC and a laptop (how about a MacBook? Big grin ) or even for more than two computers at the same time...

The utility still has a few quirks, but nothing serious.
 
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting Notar520AC (Thread starter):
What do I need to make it work?

You need to plug it in. thats all. really. be aware, you may or may not have a windows key, but, other than that, there ya go. Just plug 'er in.
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:54 am

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 8):
you may or may not have a windows key

If there is no Windows key just hit Ctrl and Esc, it has the same effect. My work IBM laptop has no Windows key.
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:03 am

So how do you get rid of annoying messages from a Mac sent message or document that shows an apostrophe as @&< (or something like that)? It takes a lot of time weed out the extra characters if you want to relay something presentable to someone else.
 
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:11 am

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 8):
be aware, you may or may not have a windows key

All Macs right back to 1984 have had an "Apple key" on the keyboard, also dubbed the "Command key". The "Windows key" was simply the PC copy of it - and it even has the same key ID on USB keyboards.

In order to make it slightly less obvious however  Yeah sure , the Windows key was placed between the Control and Alt keys instead of between Alt and Space as on every Mac keyboard before and since.

As a consequence, people using a PC keyboard with a Mac usually swap the key assignment under System Preferences -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard -> Modifier Keys

It's possible that Windows has a similar feature; But maybe you'll need a special driver for it. I didn't find it in XP (not even under "Printer and other hardware" where the keyboard settings appear to have been hidden...  crazy  ); But running it in Parallels Desktop under MacOS apparently already implies the switch anyway.

Quoting RIXrat (Reply 10):
So how do you get rid of annoying messages from a Mac sent message or document that shows an apostrophe as @&< (or something like that)?

It's not so much a question of the platform but rather one of the respective mail programs. In your case either the sender didn't encode the character properly or your mail program misinterpreted a properly encoded message.
 
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:16 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):

A somewhat related tool I've come across recently:
Synergy (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Klaus, this thing rocks. I've been using it for a while across my main desktop, my development desktop, and my laptop, and I love it.
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:42 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 12):
Klaus, this thing rocks. I've been using it for a while across my main desktop, my development desktop, and my laptop, and I love it.

Indeed!  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:29 pm

As others have mentioned, the Apple keyboard should just work on the PC even without installing any special software, and the Apple key becomes the Windows key.

Klaus, thanks for the link to the Synergy page on Wikipedia. A friend of mine showed it to me over a year ago, using his PowerBook to control his Windows PC, but I'd forgotten what it was called.
 
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RE: Using A Mac Keyboard On A PC

Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:07 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 11):
All Macs right back to 1984 have had an "Apple key" on the keyboard, also dubbed the "Command key". The "Windows key" was simply the PC copy of it - and it even has the same key ID on USB keyboards.

Just shameless, they should have been sued for making this one key compatible across platforms.
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