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What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:28 am

Firstly I think ebay and paypal way over charge for the fee's. But thats the least of my problems

My first issue was with paypal about a year back. I had sold an item on ebay, and the guy offered to meet up after he made a payment through paypal (i geuss i was stupid to not ask for cash eh). Anyways long story short, i saw the payment clear on paypal, met up with the guy to give him the item, and then next time i checked paypal, the payment was being held.

So that said i decided to not use paypal anymore, but like that would help.

Now recently using ebay, I made a purchase. I payed with a money order, and this guy ran with the money. Ok s**t happens and there is not much you can do. But this time i had followd all the rules and i was entitled to some refund from ebay. SO i went through the process of faxing all my recipts(what a hassle it was), and today i get an e-mail that i have provided insufficiant proof that i payed this guy. And stupid me again, i had sent this money order to a po box. thats to bad because if i had known any better, i would have sent it to a real address so i could go find him latter and hang his ass.

Ok, so anyways, the lesson to me obviously is to not trust anyone. And ALWAYS be cautious of anyone who wants you to ship to po boxes, or does not pay cash on local pick-up. I dont like to think i fall for these scams so easy as i try to be cautious, but somehow i always lose some money to one scam or another.

Any one else here fall for some scams? Ok it was my fault for the first paypal event, but ebay does owe me some money for the other loss i had. I have learned to hate ebay, as good as it seems it will eventualy turn around and bite you in the ass.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting Kearney (Thread starter):
i had sent this money order to a po box. thats to bad because if i had known any better, i would have sent it to a real address so i could go find him latter and hang his ass.

In the States, you've got to report your real mailing address in order to be considered for a PO box. It may be possible to contact the Canada Post to have them look into it as well, as they may be able to track this person down.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:40 am

Quoting Kearney (Thread starter):
What Do You Think Of Ebay?

A huge risk. There are alot of disadvantages but there is only one advantage: lower prices.

Quoting Kearney (Thread starter):
I payed with a money order, and this guy ran with the money.

This is the main reason why I dont use eBay. And this is the #1 disadvantage.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:27 am

What I think of Ebay? Well, when it first stated and was more or less just a global garage sale, I have was perfectly fine with it.
Now that it has become a global market place used by companies, I hate it. Not only are many categories flooded, no, that flooding also causes a price depression at regular stores. I can't tell you how many customers I have had in my store b!tching about how "Ebay is much cheaper". And not to forget all the black sheeps on Ebay that are just on there to screw others out of money.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 6):
I can't tell you how many customers I have had in my store b!tching about how "Ebay is much cheaper".

Then start selling on eBay! You'll cut your overheads, reach a much wider demographic with your products, and I would bet your sales volume increases too.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:35 am

The ultimate goal of most of the countless e-tailers that sprung up (and later went bust) in the late 1990's was indeed to render the traditional so-called "brick-and-mortar" store to a museum piece.

While that is certainly a long way from happening, Ebay is slowly but steadily pushing us in that direction.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:44 am

I don't know what you are doing meeting up with people. Ebay and paypal are great if you use them properly. I have and the money you can make is great.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:44 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 7):
Then start selling on eBay! You'll cut your overheads, reach a much wider demographic with your products, and I would bet your sales volume increases too.

No chance in hell. There are two main factors that keep me from doing that:
First, the sheer volume of the products we sell (ink cartridges, currently over 26,000 seperate articles on Ebay Germany alone!)
Second, the prices on Ebay are already on the level of our buying prices. Don't ask me how companies do that, but for us, this is not an option, unless we can manage to buy a container full of non-taken up cartridges stuck in Hamburg's port. Other than that, no chance. Besides, if I hear people whine that a Canon cartridge that used to cost at least €10 3 years ago now sold at €4 is a "rip-off price", I don't even want to bother trying to serve such customers. This whole "Greed is Cool"-attitude is discussion in itself.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:50 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
No chance in hell.

Move with the times, man. Otherwise the times will move without you. Many retailers are running both brick-and-mortar and e-stores. That why companies like this are doing so well - they provide a solution for both.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
the prices on Ebay are already on the level of our buying prices. Don't ask me how companies do that

Sheer bulk. They can sell more, so they can purchase in greater quantities and negotiate a cheaper cost price.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Besides, if I hear people whine that a Canon cartridge that used to cost at least €10 3 years ago now sold at €4 is a "rip-off price", I don't even want to bother trying to serve such customers.

Way to put the customer first  eyebrow 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:01 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 11):
Sheer bulk. They can sell more, so they can purchase in greater quantities and negotiate a cheaper cost price.

Yeah, and that's something you only can get through connections. Believe me, we have tried to get extra-cheap products, even trying to buy them directly in China, but we still could not get on the low price levels Ebay-sellers had.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 11):
Way to put the customer first

I put the customer first when I know that I can make money off of him. But when a customers comes into my store with the attitude of "You are too expensive anyway, but I'll rub it in your face just for fun", I don't give a damn. I have not yet cussed out a customer in my store, but sometimes, the stupidity or attitude of customers makes me boil.
And to be direct, I think most customers are idiots. Out of all customers, 45% whine you Ebay is much cheaper than we are. Another 45% complain how we are too expensive, yet they then go to one of the big chains with the fancy ads and let themselves get ripped off. Only 10% of the customers are realistic.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:09 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 9):
I put the customer first when I know that I can make money off of him. But when a customers comes into my store with the attitude of "You are too expensive anyway, but I'll rub it in your face just for fun", I don't give a damn. I have not yet cussed out a customer in my store, but sometimes, the stupidity or attitude of customers makes me boil.
And to be direct, I think most customers are idiots. Out of all customers, 45% whine you Ebay is much cheaper than we are. Another 45% complain how we are too expensive, yet they then go to one of the big chains with the fancy ads and let themselves get ripped off. Only 10% of the customers are realistic.

Interesting business model you have there. Not sure it's one that I would adopt if I were a retailer, but as a fellow business owner (albeit not a retailer), I wish you success in 2007.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:15 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 10):
Interesting business model you have there. Not sure it's one that I would adopt if I were a retailer,

As said, it all depends on the attitude of the customer as well. We have quite a few long-term customers, both private and companies, with whom we have a good business relationship, but at the same time, there are also some people who seem to be just looking for trouble. Besides, if the person acting like an a-hole could actually be of advantage to me, I am fully capable of staying friendly in such a person's presence, even if I'm boiling inside  Wink .

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 10):
but as a fellow business owner (albeit not a retailer), I wish you success in 2007.

Thanks, and same for you  Smile .
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
There are alot of disadvantages but there is only one advantage: lower prices.

I don't know about that...I've found the same thing on Amazon sometimes cheaper. I make it a habit of checking them, and for music, I check http://www.yourmusic.com for deals as well.

I just started with eBay, first with buying, and just sold my first 9 items last week, and have four more cd's up for sale. I've learned a lot from my friend Mark, and what angers me is when people try to make profits on the shipping cost. I've seen single CD's asking for $5+ shipping? Give me a break...I can buy a bubble mailer for 50 cents, and first class postage for about $2, and that gets it to the buyer in about 3-5 days.

For now, I'm happy with PayPal and eBay. Will that change? Possibly. What is interesting from an economic point of view is to see what people are willing to pay for a certain item. One thing that I will start doing is watching several items I'm interested in, and then once I get a feeling for what things typically go for, make my bid based on that.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:29 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 12):
I've seen single CD's asking for $5+ shipping? Give me a break...I can buy a bubble mailer for 50 cents, and first class postage for about $2, and that gets it to the buyer in about 3-5 days.

Part of this is the padding out of fees for the seller's time as well. Call it the equivalent of a labour cost, if you will. I do it - I add $1 to shipping cost of every item, to compensate me for the time it takes to list the item, respond to questions, pack it, drive to the Post Office or UPS or FedEx, and mail it.

I don't have a problem with minor padding like that.

However, when I see people selling laptops for $200 and then charging $150 for shipping, I get rather ticked off. And eBay are taking measures to prevent that kind of padding.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:48 am

Sorry to hear about your cases Kearney.

It has been warned about the risks of shopping online, but I think it hasn't been stressed enough, that the auction sites like eBay would be the most dangerous ones in this matter. So anyway, be very careful when buying second hand items.

Just as an example and recent discovery, this guy here wasn't probably thinking of what he/she was buying http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300050305788

3 pieces of PS1 for $900 is not such a good deal!

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting Joge (Reply 14):
Just as an example and recent discovery, this guy here wasn't probably thinking of what he/she was buying http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300050305788

3 pieces of PS1 for $900 is not such a good deal!

Hahaha. Well, again...a victim of his own stupidity!
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:55 am

eBay and PayPal suck because don't allow transactions involving firearm magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

Having said that, I still use them to buy (and occasionally sell) other things.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:59 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 12):

I understand what you are saying, but eBay isnt for me.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:40 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
A huge risk. There are alot of disadvantages but there is only one advantage: lower prices.

Disadvantages...?? I've had over 200 transactions both buying and selling.. Never one issues....ever.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:55 am

EBay is a pretty cool place to buy cheap last-minute tickets for the football stadium!

Oh yeah, the Interflug timetable for 1.80 EUR (or less) was a cool deal as well.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
I don't know what you are doing meeting up with people. Ebay and paypal are great if you use them properly. I have and the money you can make is great

Agree 100%.

Quoting N174UA (Reply 12):
I've learned a lot from my friend Mark, and what angers me is when people try to make profits on the shipping cost

Those are the items I simply pass by. I will not bid on anything that has padded shipping charges.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 13):
I do it - I add $1 to shipping cost of every item, to compensate me for the time it takes to list the item, respond to questions, pack it, drive to the Post Office or UPS or FedEx, and mail it.

No offense but then yours is the item I will pass by. Lost customer for you.
The Post office, UPS and FedEx will all pick your items right up at your door if you call them and set it up. I do it all the time.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 18):
I've had over 200 transactions both buying and selling.. Never one issues....ever.

I have over 500 transactions and only had one problem. Not with ebay but a package that was truly lost by the Post Office. It was insured though so no big problem.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting Charger (Reply 20):
No offense but then yours is the item I will pass by. Lost customer for you.

You'd never know that I've charged it until the item is delivered. The items I ship are normally $10+ to ship. Most buyers will view $11 to ship the same as they would $10 to ship.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:12 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7):
No chance in hell. There are two main factors that keep me from doing that:
First, the sheer volume of the products we sell (ink cartridges, currently over 26,000 seperate articles on Ebay Germany alone!)
Second, the prices on Ebay are already on the level of our buying prices. Don't ask me how companies do that, but for us, this is not an option, unless we can manage to buy a container full of non-taken up cartridges stuck in Hamburg's port. Other than that, no chance. Besides, if I hear people whine that a Canon cartridge that used to cost at least €10 3 years ago now sold at €4 is a "rip-off price", I don't even want to bother trying to serve such customers. This whole "Greed is Cool"-attitude is discussion in itself.

Perhaps I'm missing the point here but if two companies/people are selling the same item then the one who's selling it cheapest is the winner right? Isn't it better known as COMPETITION ???

Like the OP said, you've got to move with the times or get left behind. Harsh words, but sadly the truth and you have my sympathy because I've been there too although not quite in the same capacity.

A lot of the gear on Ebay is nicked, but you'd never know it at a glance. This is how stuff gets sold at prices well below the going rate on there.

Quoting Matt D (Reply 5):
The ultimate goal of most of the countless e-tailers that sprung up (and later went bust) in the late 1990's was indeed to render the traditional so-called "brick-and-mortar" store to a museum piece.

While that is certainly a long way from happening, Ebay is slowly but steadily pushing us in that direction.

Very true indeed.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:37 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 22):
Perhaps I'm missing the point here but if two companies/people are selling the same item then the one who's selling it cheapest is the winner right? Isn't it better known as COMPETITION ???

Of course, which is why I chose not to sell articles on Ebay, and instead focus on a shop, where customers can get their stuff on the day they buy it, where they can get information on what new printer suits their needs best, how to overcome problems,and where they can get other products as well, all of which Ebay could not provide. Yes, turnover is less than with Ebay, but earnings are higher as well. I'd rather sell one cartridge for €4 on which I earn €3 in my store directly to a customer, than selling 30 at €0,50 on Ebay and have earnings of €0,10 each, plus all the stress of S&H.

Quoting RobK (Reply 22):
A lot of the gear on Ebay is nicked, but you'd never know it at a glance. This is how stuff gets sold at prices well below the going rate on there.

Very true indeed.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:00 pm

EBAY is great for buyers only. You get ripped off as a seller by small fees that add up at the end of the sale and unless you're item is worth hundreds of dollars your not going to make much money in the end. They basically charge for everything, that is why I stoped selling. It's amaizing how much they get away with and no body complains, now wonder the company is worth billions of dollars. I now just use craigslist.com for sales, they're just like ebay but without the small fee bullshit. Also something I never understood why, in all of my buying on ebay(about 20 times) I have NEVER won an auction and unless you know how things work, I think you're never going to win one.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:24 pm

Ive had a few problems with Ebay and Paypal, but nothing that was really attributable to those companies.

I had my paypal login hijacked after the 'Great A.net Password Scam of 2006', and several thousand dollars were transfered out of my account. Within 2 weeks I had all my money back with no damage to me. No problems with paypal, easy to contact, they dealt with the issue well.

I recently had a 'nosend' seller, reported them to ebay and their account was suspended.

I had a paypal chargeback on an item I sold, but luckily Im forward thinking and got proof of postage so that never amounted to anything, paypal took my side.

The thing to remember is that you are dealing with people that are patently untrustable - theres no inherent trust factor until you have built up a history with them, Im very trepaditious about buying from new sellers, but I have no issues buying from a few regulars. You just have to take the appropriate precautions.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7):
Second, the prices on Ebay are already on the level of our buying prices. Don't ask me how companies do that

Get better suppliers. My employers regularly get toner, ink and other items cheaper from one supplier than the other supplier can buy it in for - we put an order out to quote and after a few rounds we get queries from suppliers about the pricing, because they simply cannot compete even with giving it to us at no markup. And these arent small suppliers, they are national suppliers.

We put one supplier into an interesting place once when buying Novell Netware licenses - after two or three rounds of quoting, we got a query in along the lines of 'How are you getting these prices? We have a Novell representative onsite at the moment and hes saying he cannot sell *us* those licenses at those prices!'. We gave them enough information for them to renegotiate their Novell contract there and then, and they won the order later that day.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:06 pm

Quoting Charger (Reply 20):
The Post office, UPS and FedEx will all pick your items right up at your door if you call them and set it up. I do it all the time.

Actually you can set it up on line as well. I do this all the time with the USPS. As long as the pkg doesn't weigh more than 70lbs, they'll pick it up at your door, free of charge (you just have to have the proper postage affixed).

I have been an eBay buyer and seller for a little over 7 years. I've bought everything from a $15 Adam-12 lunch box to an $11,000 classic automobile on eBay and I've only encountered one fraudulent seller. They sold me a $25 motorcycle battery charger they not only didn't actually have but had sold to 19 other people as well. Unfortunately for them, they lived in a city that bordered where I worked at the time and the local cops were more than happy to exercise a little professional courtesy and paid them a visit for me. I got my money back and they were charged with and convicted of larceny by trick.

The padded shipping charges are definitely a rip off but it's always your option not to buy from that seller. Or, you can do what I have done and pay the extra few bucks they're charging for shipping and then leave a very descriptive negative feedback. I can't speak for other buyers but when I see multiple negative feedback reports I take my business elsewhere.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:38 pm

Quoting N174UA (Reply 12):
what angers me is when people try to make profits on the shipping cost. I've seen single CD's asking for $5+ shipping? Give me a break...I can buy a bubble mailer for 50 cents, and first class postage for about $2, and that gets it to the buyer in about 3-5 days.

I once saw somebody asking $19.99 for a 1GB memory card. $0.99 Buy it now price. I passed that one and bought one for $18.99, with $3.99 shipping. Did I pay more in the end, yes, but the second seller wasn't padding his shipping price so he could pay less Ebay fees (Ebay fees are based on sale price of item, shipping not included). Still less than half of what I would have paid in a store.

Quoting Queso (Reply 16):
eBay and PayPal suck because don't allow transactions involving firearm magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

If I remember right, Paypal doesn't accept anything related to firearms. Very anti 2nd amendment company.

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 24):
Also something I never understood why, in all of my buying on ebay(about 20 times) I have NEVER won an auction and unless you know how things work, I think you're never going to win one.

I've won lots of stuff, you just gotta set a limit, and if it goes above that, find another identical item. The people getting those items are paying more than you would want to pay anyways.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:22 pm

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 24):
I have NEVER won an auction and unless you know how things work, I think you're never going to win one.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:35 pm

In my opinion, people who have problems with eBay are generally naive, gullible or both.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:46 pm

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 25):
Get better suppliers. My employers regularly get toner, ink and other items cheaper from one supplier than the other supplier can buy it in for - we put an order out to quote and after a few rounds we get queries from suppliers about the pricing, because they simply cannot compete even with giving it to us at no markup. And these arent small suppliers, they are national suppliers.

Thing is, we are too small to give out orders that way. Hence I have to rely on regular internet searches and comparing prices myself. Has worked good so far, as the lowest price for the cheapest cartridge in our sortiment has gone down from around €1,30 around 2 years ago to €0,38, with most other cartridges also seeing supplier price reductions between €1 and €, depending on the type. And yet, even a 38-cent cartridge would be too expensive to make a profit on Ebay.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
f I remember right, Paypal doesn't accept anything related to firearms. Very anti 2nd amendment company.

Not just weapons, but also everything related to sex as well. Once won an auction for a few old Playboys, wanted to pay with Paypal, but was denied. I don't know what Paypal's problem is with weapons or sex, seeing as those two areas probably have the largest turnover besides food and clothes.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:21 pm

E-Bay is probably one of the great success stories of the internet. Does it have it's risks? Of course, but you can get burned at a retailer or private sale too. There are the issues from security as to the payment programs as well as fraud, but if properly understood and used, that risk should be minimal. While I have never used E-Bay, I do know of people that have success selling and buying items from it.

Where E-Bay has had it's greatest affect is on the buying and selling of collectibles from old lunch boxes to toys to glassware to airline related items. It allows an individual to market their goods to a worldwide (or at least nationwide) audience. Another great area has been for those looking for hard to find, odd sized and/or expensive to buy locally items like car parts.

E-Bay has opened up new opportunities for shopping for those that have mobility limitations, that live far from or with limited variety and pricing competition locally as to retail stores. It can also be used (along with retailer's websites) to price shop for items. As to retailers, they can market overstocks, customer returns, 'seconds', rebuilt/remanufactured items, without it price competing against their goods in the stores.
E-Bay isn't a prefect marketplace. Some items, most notably guns, certain types of weapons, Nazi historical items, tobacco products and similar items cannot be marketed via E-Bay due to varying USA and International laws as well as ethical concerns. I would also be concerned that some items sold on E-Bay may be 'bootleg' (that is illegal copies of CD's, DVD's, clothing and related accessories, violating copyright and trademarks), stolen or otherwise improperly acquired items, or phantom items to just steal from gullible people.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 21):
You'd never know that I've charged it until the item is delivered. The items I ship are normally $10+ to ship. Most buyers will view $11 to ship the same as they would $10 to ship

Then you would recieve a very descriptive negative feedback from me and never recieve another bid from me. Worth the extra buck?
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:02 pm

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
If I remember right, Paypal doesn't accept anything related to firearms. Very anti 2nd amendment company

Interesting. Well, they are a SF Bay Area-based company, so that explains a lot right there.  Yeah sure  banghead 

That said, and given that I'm pro-2nd amendment, I'd still rather see gun owners buying their items through traditional sources, especialy when in large quantities.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:12 pm

Quoting N174UA (Reply 33):
Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
If I remember right, Paypal doesn't accept anything related to firearms. Very anti 2nd amendment company

Maybe it's because they can't prove who the item is being shipped to. Could be shipped to a minor using his father's account or a convicted criminal using someone else's account or a fake one. Just a thought.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:13 pm

Quoting Charger (Reply 32):

Then you would recieve a very descriptive negative feedback from me and never recieve another bid from me. Worth the extra buck?

Considering I have 2927 100% positive feedback, I would say yes, it's worth it.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:30 pm

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 35):
Considering I have 2927 100% positive feedback, I would say yes, it's worth it

Your choice and I wish you luck.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:47 pm

E bay is for smart buyers period...

I have bought items that cost over 2000 USD$ and asked to be shipped to Mexico 100% perfect, I have spent more that I want to know in things that are simply out of the market (example: a 500 megabyte SCSI disk I needed as a repair), old vinyl records, old toys (my 1:72 scale Concorde for example).

Why I say it is for smart buyers?

Because sometimes people see things WAY TO CHEAP to be REAL, and they are scammed, things that are sold from a NON reputation bearing NEW user..(first sellers), users that you ask them to send you a picture of the item in such and such view, and they answer back and send you the pic, are most of the time legit...

A month ago I was looking for a Ibanez Jem rock mirror finish (retails for 2400USD) sold on Evil bay for 1750-1850, and there was one at 1250 buy now, I knew it could not be and the buyer was scammed (the seller asked for a wire transfer..youi know the rest of the deal....)

Be smart, be realistic, and be prepared to losee to a lot of stupid fools who will pay ANYTHING just to win (now I wanted extra pads for my electronic drum set and the auction I was going to Bid on is at 650USD for a half complete set...when the whole drum set can be bought for 850!)...
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:46 pm

I like Ebay, Paypal I don´t use, don´t trust that, registered letter is my payment method.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:54 pm

Quoting N174UA (Reply 33):
That said, and given that I'm pro-2nd amendment, I'd still rather see gun owners buying their items through traditional sources, especialy when in large quantities.

That's true, but it would be nice if you find a gun online, have it shipped to a local FFL, but can do payment over Paypal.

On another forum I'm on, I was alerted to another company run or owned by a cop, it's called GearPay and doesn't place silly restrictions on your purchase.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:43 pm

Hello all

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
f I remember right, Paypal doesn't accept anything related to firearms.

Wrong, in the last month I have purchased on eBay and payed with PayPal funds a scope and new stock for my SKS. And just today purchased a scope, scope mount and ring for my Mosin Nagant rifle.

I have also sold used brass and mags on eBay and had the customers pay with Paypal.

Having set everyone straight, getting hit with 2 sets of fees related to almost every purchase is getting very old.

Related to the ink cartridge problem a large amount of seller will contract with a supplier, who warehouses the product, but lets the seller set the eBay price and shipping charge. Sellers never have to hold the physical product nor bothers with shipping.

The problem with this model is you have 1000 eBay sellers all selling the same ink cartridge that they get from the same supplier. They all pay the supplier that same price for the cart. so they end up selling at a loss and making it up on the shipping end.

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 26):
Or, you can do what I have done and pay the extra few bucks they're charging for shipping and then leave a very descriptive negative feedback.

You are the very worse type of eBay buyer. If you know what the shipping charges are before you buy and then buy anyway you have no right to leave negitive feedback for the seller. You can alway purchase from another seller who has lower shipping costs or ask the seller to lower his/her shipping.

After 420 transactions this year 100% positive feedback I have found that the best way to deal with shipping is to let the customers decide. Before I list any item I pack and weight it, then I include the weight in my listing and let the customer decide how much he/she pays for shipping.

And I never hold feedback hostage. This means that if the buyer pays in a reasonable amount of time they get positive feedback at the time of payment not after they leave me feedback. I can't stand a seller who will only leave me feedback after I have left them feedback.

That is my 2 cents

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:28 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 23):
Of course, which is why I chose not to sell articles on Ebay, and instead focus on a shop, where customers can get their stuff on the day they buy it, where they can get information on what new printer suits their needs best, how to overcome problems,and where they can get other products as well, all of which Ebay could not provide. Yes, turnover is less than with Ebay, but earnings are higher as well. I'd rather sell one cartridge for €4 on which I earn €3 in my store directly to a customer, than selling 30 at €0,50 on Ebay and have earnings of €0,10 each, plus all the stress of S&H.

Why don't you buy your stock off Ebay then if it's selling cheaper than you can buy it? Makes good business sense to me, especially if you've got a decent customer base who don't know that they can get them at 50% less on Fleabay.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Ebay?

Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:40 pm

I just sold my Ricky Gervais concert tickets through ebay. The buyer only lived a few miles from me so once the money was in the process of being transferred from paypal to my bank account I went to the persons house and delivered them by hand thus saving on the postage. Big grin

I would never send money to a PO Box. That is a definate red light and if I was buying anything I would send a cheque so that if there are any problems I can always stop the cheque with the bank.

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