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How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:10 am

Looks like the wannabe rice racer's steering wheel locked up. What country is this? Sounds like he mentions "miles per hour" at the 11 second mark.



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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:19 am

What kind of car is it? Almost looks like a Subaru.

edit:

Scratch that earlier remark.

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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:28 am

Yep, has to be an Subaru Impreza STi ('92-'95 model).
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:36 am

I always wondered why cars in North America don't have the tow points such as the ones in Europe.

Lot's of fun getting my cousin towing my Peugot to the shop
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:24 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Thread starter):
What country is this?

Well it isn't the UK thats for sure, but it is some other country where they drive on the left.

I bet the guy didn't realise you had to keep the ignition on when towing to stop the steering locking up !!.

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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:27 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
I always wondered why cars in North America don't have the tow points such as the ones in Europe.

Because cars built in North America are much more reliable than ones built in Europe.  duck 
 
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting Queso (Reply 5):
Because cars built in North America are much more reliable than ones built in Europe.

 rotfl   Wink

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 4):
Well it isn't the UK thats for sure, but it is some other country where they drive on the left.

Australia, New Zealand or South Africa perhaps?
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
I always wondered why cars in North America don't have the tow points such as the ones in Europe.

Most Fords have them. My two Ford Contours (Mondeos) had them and my current vehicle, a Sport Trac, have a pair of them in the bumper.



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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:32 am

Great example on how not to tow a car

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
I always wondered why cars in North America don't have the tow points such as the ones in Europe

We have them, usually there are a couple of slots cut into the frame, you would have to look to see them.

We also put the steering wheels on the side of the car too.

Note to everybody, if your engine isn't running it ain't driving the power steering pump. That is why he crashed. He was trying to force the wheel.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:38 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
My two Ford Contours (Mondeos)

Which was a European designed car.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
a Sport Trac, have a pair of them in the bumper.

Pick-up's and Jeep's have them I know, I'm assuming to get them out of any problems they may encounter while going 4x4ing.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
We have them, usually there are a couple of slots cut into the frame, you would have to look to see them.

What kind of vehicle do you have?

Most of the vehicles in Europe have them intergraged into the bumber or just under and are very easliy accesible.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
That is why he crashed. He was trying to force the wheel.

But as long as the key is in the ignition, the wheel won't lock. When the vehicle is in motion, not having power steering is not difficult to handle, the wheels turn quite freely.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:55 am

A couple oldie-but-goody towing mishaps.





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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:02 am

I saw that second one a couple of years ago. Thought it was funny as hell!

BTW, Mark, you have the SportTrac, I'm not a pick-up fan, but I do have to say that the SportTrac is one of the nicest vehicles on the road.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:51 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Thread starter):
What country is this?

Judging by the scenery I would say they were English guys (Immigrants) in New Zealand, there is a palm tree and the electricty poles etc look Kiwi.

A lot of Subarus down here and a lot of twats driving them too!!
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:42 pm

The guy in the white car is a fucking idiot. Hes driving waaay to fast for that road, let along while towing a car. His turns are way to sharp too.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:05 pm

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 12):
Judging by the scenery I would say they were English guys (Immigrants) in New Zealand,

Bu then again...the "Sharp bend" signs are the wrong colour, the house, the steep bank at the side of the road and the palm trees make me want to revise that opinion to ..Torquay????
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:04 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 13):
The guy in the white car is a fucking idiot. Hes driving waaay to fast for that road, let along while towing a car. His turns are way to sharp too.

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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:05 pm

The same sort of thing happened to dad many years ago. Car broke down, got a friend in a tipper truck to give him a tow, but the guy driving the truck took the keys. At first dad was alright until the steering locked so the truck was dragging him sideways and flattened road signs, uprooted bushes etc.

Dad was tooting and swearing but no one could hear him.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:03 am

They drive on the left in Hong Kong, Japan and Mauritius too!
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:15 am

I never found the lack of power steering to be a problem, but the lack of power brakes always seemed to be a challenge during city driving.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
I always wondered why cars in North America don't have the tow points such as the ones in Europe.

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All the cars my wife and I have owned since moving to the states have had them - 2 Honda Civics, a Honda Accord, a Toyota Solera, and currently a Saturn Vue and BMW X5.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 19):
All the cars my wife and I have owned since moving to the states have had them - 2 Honda Civics, a Honda Accord, a Toyota Solera, and currently a Saturn Vue and BMW X5.

I guess I should rephrase the question. What I should have said, easily accessible tow hooks. European cars usually have them in the front bumper, or just under, and are hidden by a plastic cover.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:02 am

I believe the video was shot in Antigua  Smile
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:48 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 19):
All the cars my wife and I have owned since moving to the states have had them - 2 Honda Civics, a Honda Accord, a Toyota Solera, and currently a Saturn Vue and BMW X5.

These are Japanese cars and a couple of SUVs, he's talking about American made cars.

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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:01 am

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 22):
These are Japanese cars and a couple of SUVs

The Saturn Vue is an American car and the X5 is a German car. The other two models sell at such volume in the US that the respective manufacturers have entire divisions dedicated to their respective markets, and that includes design differences. Compare the European Civic with the US Civic, for example.

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 22):
he's talking about American made cars.

I don't see that constraint to his original statement:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
I always wondered why cars in North America don't have the tow points such as the ones in Europe.

ACDC8 has already clarified his statement a bit with:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 20):
I guess I should rephrase the question. What I should have said, easily accessible tow hooks. European cars usually have them in the front bumper, or just under, and are hidden by a plastic cover.

However, the tow hooks on the X5, the Vue, and the two Civics, were easily accessible - no covers, no hidden enclosures, just hooks under the front bumper.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:06 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 23):
The Saturn Vue is an American car and the X5 is a German car

In North America they are not referred to as cars, they are SUVs and I know their origins, thanks.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:16 am

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 24):
In North America they are not referred to as cars, they are SUVs

In North America, at least where I live, the word 'car' is more often used as an envelope term for an automobile, rather than a myopic term for something that fits within a certain shape or category.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:30 am

It looks like the original post was deleted. Can somebody post the link to the video, please?
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:34 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 25):
In North America, at least where I live, the word 'car' is more often used as an envelope term for an automobile, rather than a myopic term for something that fits within a certain shape or category.

Everyone around here calls an SUV a car. I call my Sport Trac "my car."

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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:47 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 27):
Everyone around here calls an SUV a car. I call my Sport Trac "my car."

My point exactly. My wife drives the Vue. I drive the X5. We both refer to them as our 'cars'.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:28 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 27):
Everyone around here calls an SUV a car. I call my Sport Trac "my car."

Same here...with one exception; everyone I know who owns a Jeep in some form or another...calls it 'jeep'. Not SUV, not car...  bigthumbsup 
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:21 pm

What a wonderful video.... right. LOL. Sometimes I wonder about some people and their ideas. lol
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:42 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 9):
But as long as the key is in the ignition, the wheel won't lock

Well, simply having the key in the ignition doesn't do you any good. Need to turn it to on as well.

Oh, and yes, these guys are idiots  Smile

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 10):
A couple oldie-but-goody towing mishaps.

Take a look at the license plate on the second one, you'd think us here in Minnesota would know better...idiots  Smile
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 20):
I guess I should rephrase the question. What I should have said, easily accessible tow hooks. European cars usually have them in the front bumper, or just under, and are hidden by a plastic cover.

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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:27 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 31):
Well, simply having the key in the ignition doesn't do you any good. Need to turn it to on as well.

Sorry, my mistake, meant to say in the on position. But I'm sure you knew what I meant.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
Made in America
Tow hook next to the fog light.

Thanks, but ....

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 9):
Pick-up's and Jeep's have them I know, I'm assuming to get them out of any problems they may encounter while going 4x4ing.

I think I'm going to need to dig up some pictures to be a bit more clear on this one.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:33 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 33):
But I'm sure you knew what I meant.

Wanted to make sure  Smile Wouldn't want to see you starring in a YouTube video  Smile
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:58 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 34):
Wanted to make sure Wouldn't want to see you starring in a YouTube video

Not even in one of those cool "Star Wars Guy" videos?  Silly

Anyway, this is what I meant with tow hooks in Europe ...



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/alizee340/2005-07-VW-Passat-Variant-autobisch.jpg

In the older cars, they are quite visible, in the newer ones they are hidden in the grill or bumper. The cover piece simply snaps out of place.

I've never seen anything like these on American (GM, Ford) cars (not pick-ups, not SUV's). My dad's Buick has no hooks what so ever, neither did my old Sunbird or Mustang.
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:20 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 35):
I've never seen anything like these on American (GM, Ford) cars (not pick-ups, not SUV's). My dad's Buick has no hooks what so ever, neither did my old Sunbird or Mustang.

And then you end up with idiots like those in AsstChiefMark's second video  Smile
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RE: How Not To Tow A Car

Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:33 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 36):
And then you end up with idiots like those in AsstChiefMark's second video

I put my Mustang into a snowbank a couple of years ago (my fault), I took the traction control off and hit some black ice. Anyway, the only place to tow it out was by the rear axle. Of course the tow truck driver ended up bending it somewhat, which could have easily been avoided if the vehicle did have proper tow points such as on SUV's and such.
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