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Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:13 am

I'm sorry this isn't the most in-depth article, but this is all I could find right now.

Aparently she is using her body to teach her son about sex. I think this is just a little bit on the wrong side. There are books, tapes, etc. for this stuff. Why on earth would a parent use their own body to teach their kids about sex????

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:17 am

That is perhaps one way to put her son off the idea of sex...  Embarrassment


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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:18 am

This is sick, and should be illegal. Id be surprised if it isnt already.

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:18 am

Quoting S12PPL (Thread starter):
Aparently she is using her body to teach her son about sex. I think this is just a little bit on the wrong side. There are books, tapes, etc. for this stuff. Why on earth would a parent use their own body to teach their kids about sex????

Did you miss the part about this taking place in China where there arent really those instructional aides available? I am not condoning or condeming it, but it appears to me that this mother was doing her son a service by teaching him anatomy and it wasnt a sexual thing at all.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:22 am

This is just wrong!  Sad

From the article:

"Others, including doctors, said she should use better teaching methods."


She should have shown her next door neighbor or one of his friend's but not her own son.  no 
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RE: Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:23 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 3):
Did you miss the part about this taking place in China where there arent really those instructional aides available?

Do you need a teaching aid, really? I mean I know it helps...But do you really need one?


It's just wrong...bad...I would never use my body to teach a child about sex....Just...ICK.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 5):

Like I said I am not condoning it whatsoever. But the article doesnt give one much to go on. Personally, I would have rather had my sisters friend teach me about sex. All I am pointing out is that the circumstances of thier article are to sketchy to go on anything. I dont know the status of sex ed in China. I wouldnt imagine it is great considering the population problems and disease issues they are having.
 
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:40 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):

Yeah...which is frusterating. They gave very few details, and I couldn't find anything yet while searching the net.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:52 am

Emm.....very little info.....

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):
I dont know the status of sex ed in China.

Good point

There must have been VEry good reason for her to do this, we'll never know.

To us it's totally wrong and perverse, but to a Chinese mother who knows ?

I found the article disturbing too, particularly with her son being a 14yr old.

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RE: Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:08 am

Can't think of a better way to get her son to remain abstinent. :P
 
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:29 am

Quoting S12PPL (Thread starter):
Aparently she is using her body to teach her son about sex

Can't this be looked upon as a form of home-schooling? Wink
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:46 am

Just to play Devil's advocate: an infant comes out of her uterus and vagina, and suckles her breasts for sustenance. At what age is it no longer appropriate for him to see these things, and how do you make that determination? Would it be OK for her to teach her daughter about sex this way. Why or why not? If yes, why the gender difference?

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 2):
This is sick, and should be illegal

I find it a bit, of questionable taste, as it were, but why such repression about the sexual organs?
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:42 pm

I don't think it should necessarily be illegal, and like BushPilot said we don't really know the sex ed status in China. Although, we are told that even the doctors recommended using a different method. Although it maybe shouldn't necessarily be illegal, something still tells me something is not right with it. Just my 2 cents.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:45 pm

When I read the title I thought she was using a corpse.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:09 pm

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 3):
Did you miss the part about this taking place in China where there arent really those instructional aides available? I am not condoning or condeming it, but it appears to me that this mother was doing her son a service by teaching him anatomy and it wasnt a sexual thing at all.

Although I don't agree with it, I don't think it should be illegal.

Some tribal societies don't have the taboos that we do and parents will actually openly have intercourse in front of their chilren. It may be a little weird, but what's so immoral about it?

I also know a couple who have a studio and have sex with their one year old baby in the room. Not something I would prefer to do, but what other options do they have, put the kid in the closet?

As in other cultures, Native American sexual life and identity developed during childhood. The process varied from tribe to tribe in native North America, but most children learned about sexuality from adult behavior and talk. In the Qipi Eskimo society of the eastern Arctic, for example, parents taught about sex through play and example. Mothers and fathers openly touched, kissed, and admired their babies' genitals during infancy. Sexual play among Eskimo children continued well into adolescence. Children talked openly about sexual experiences, and parents took these discussions as a sign of normal child development. .

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/GUS/NAMNATIVES.HTM

Children, from birth openly observe the sexual lives of their elders, including sexual intercourse and births. Sexual matters are discussed freely and lewdly by both sexes and even by young children. Children openly play sexual games. Small boys use a recognized sign as a ribald gesture for sexual intercourse. The right elbow is grasped with the left hand, the elbow being so flexed as to allow the hand to point upwards.

http://almapintada.puellula.com/Amazonia/index.html

I suppose that some would see it as primitive, but I can't really think of any pragmatic reason for it being taboo. It just is.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:13 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 13):
When I read the title I thought she was using a corpse.

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:27 pm

If this had happened in the US then there would some lucky psychologist that would be naming a large cabin cruiser after this mother.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:48 pm

Well thats one more gay boy in China now then  Wink
 
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:35 pm

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 11):
Just to play Devil's advocate: an infant comes out of her uterus and vagina, and suckles her breasts for sustenance. At what age is it no longer appropriate for him to see these things, and how do you make that determination?

Exactly!
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Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 9):
Can't think of a better way to get her son to remain abstinent. :P

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:08 am

Maybe she's a MILF? yes 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 19):
Maybe she's a MILF? yes

lol Maybe she's a minger
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RE: Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:35 am

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 14):
Some tribal societies don't have the taboos that we do and parents will actually openly have intercourse in front of their chilren. It may be a little weird, but what's so immoral about it?

Exactly, we are putting forth our western "values" on something we dont understand. In my native culture, it was normal to have several families living in a single room structure and all the normal things went on. The stigma about this is created by western society that doesnt apply to everyone. It is common here for boys until about age 10 to be in the Maqi(steambath). After which they being to maqi with them men.

Quoting KevinL1011 (Reply 18):
Get him an A.net membership and DSL.

Good One! But the theory being that after seeing his mom naked, he will choose abstinance, but the A.net membership is where abstinance is forced upon him.
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:36 am

Read between the lines.
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:47 am

Quoting TWISTEDWHISPER (Reply 22):
Well, it obviously could have been worse:

Well that least they weren't blood relatives and they were of legal age, no like the mess in the radical-LDS compound in Colorado City, Arizona.
But back on topic, I read an article a year or so ago, where an single mother in New Jersey took her teenage sons to a nude beach, just so they would see a naked female with the idea of stopping them from having sex just to see a girl naked..different people, different ideas, guess this makes the world go around.
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:34 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 23):
But back on topic, I read an article a year or so ago, where an single mother in New Jersey took her teenage sons to a nude beach, just so they would see a naked female with the idea of stopping them from having sex just to see a girl naked..different people, different ideas, guess this makes the world go around.

If it's legal for them to go to a nude beach...What's the big deal?

The point here, is that a mother used her own body to give her son a sex ed course. I think that's a little over the top, personally. I think it'd be wrong for a parent to hire any woman not related to their son/daughter to come in and give a sex-ed course, too. Discussion is all you need. If you have books with scientific illustrations...awesome.

When I was young, my parents got a video called "What Kids Want To Know About Sex, And Growing Up". No one in that video got naked. They used animation and text book pictures to illustrate it. They had kids ask doctors questions, and in some cases I think their parents were there, too, to ask questions they might have about helping the kids get through puberty. Anyway. I jus tthink it's not right to do it that way.
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:37 am

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:54 am

What the hell is it with these articles? How do people find out about this? Why is it their business? If the kid wants to learn sex-ed let him and his parents do it the way they want. I'm sick and tired of people getting into everyone's personal life and posting articles about it. Its none of our fcking business!
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:53 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 26):
What the hell is it with these articles? How do people find out about this? Why is it their business? If the kid wants to learn sex-ed let him and his parents do it the way they want. I'm sick and tired of people getting into everyone's personal life and posting articles about it. Its none of our fcking business!

Ohhhh... So It would be ok for a parent to molest their child..Because it's none of our business what they do in the pravacy of their own home? I get it now.... Yeah sure


Read again. She did it at the DOCTOR'S office! Not in the privacy of their own home...
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:59 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 27):

Thats not what I said. I said people ought to stay out of people's business. If a guy wants to keep his wife's body embalmed in his house he can do it, its his personal choice and it isnt hurting anyone. Its not illegal. If a woman wants to teach her son sex ed and he wants to learn it from her its they're business. These things are not illegal. Molestation is illegal and non-consensual.

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:42 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 24):
They used animation and text book pictures to illustrate it. They had kids ask doctors questions, and in some cases I think their parents were there, too, to ask questions they might have about helping the kids get through puberty. Anyway. I jus tthink it's not right to do it that way.

Whats wrong with nudity? The human body is a beautiful creation (unless it involves fat lesbian talk show hosts  Wink) and there is nothing wrong with children seeing nudity. When I was a child my mother used to take me to classes with her while attending the Art Institue of Chicago. Most of the classes I attended were history and theory but a few of them had nude models. I was curious but didn't make any type of sexual connection.

Now I am curious to know how she related nudity to sexuality. Did she point to her labia majora and explain the process of sexual excitation or did she actually have the doctor mount her infront of the kid like Monty Python's The Meaning of Life?

Either way, I don't think the kid will be harmed because of it. It certainly isn't molestation or abuse.
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RE: Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:58 am

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 29):
Whats wrong with nudity?

Nothing....If it's done privately, or at a nudist resort.

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 29):
unless it involves fat lesbian talk show hosts

How about fat people in general? But I agree in principle Smile

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 29):
The human body is a beautiful creation



Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 29):
and there is nothing wrong with children seeing nudity.

You're getting no argument from me on that point. Doing what she did at a doctors office just isn't cool, though.
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RE: Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:02 am

Is she hot?

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:06 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 30):
Doing what she did at a doctors office just isn't cool, though.

Yeah, I agree. But just because she is strange and wanted to teach her kid in a way that seems odd to most people isn't tantamount to molestation like some are implying here.
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RE: Mom Uses Body To Teach Son Sex-ed

Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:23 am

I thought I'd say a couple of words about sex education in Mainland China.

Even though things are improving, sex-ed is still practically non-existing. When little kids ask their parents the old question ("mama where did i come from?"), it's customary for parents to tell them that they found the baby in a heap of garbage (!), and kept it. It's terrible, I know, but that's the reality. "If I had known you'd disappoint me so much, I would have thrown you away", is then often used to reprimand children.
OK, some of us in the West might have grown up with an equally prudish education. But we still have ways of finding out, right? Keep in mind those hardly exist in China. There's no real sex-ed in school, there's no pornography, no movies with sex scenes, and what have you. This leads to youngsters growing up with no knowledge about sex, and too often it results in very unsatisfying sex lifes. The concepts of foreplay, oral sex, the clitoris... still unknown in large parts of the Chinese society.

Another thing to keep in mind is that with sexuality being made an absolute taboo during Maoist rule, many Chinese today have little sense of what's acceptable sexual behaviour and what is not. I guess this comes into play with this mother; she probably had no idea that what she did was morally more than questionable.

So, while I agree that what she did was not a good idea at all (and it's entirely untypical behaviour for Chinese), you might want to refrain from calling her "sick" and "perverted"; not only is she from a different culture, more importantly Chinese morals and ethic standards are still deeply messed up, due to the Communist rule.

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