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62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:17 am

This started several days ago when two Royal Navy rescue helicopters set out from Cornwall to rescue the crew of the Napoli from their life raft in 50ft seas. The ship had run into difficulties after it's engine rooms flooded, it was supposed to then be towed into Portland, but it began to sink further and has had to be grounded a mile off the shore. Now it's breaking up and the cargo; containers holding anything from toxic chemicals to BMW motorbikes is now washing up on the South Devon beaches. Most worrying though is the 3500 tonnes of oil that it's carrying, several hundred of which have already leaked out.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6283965.stm

Hope they can contain the mess, otherwise it could be very bad news for wildlife and the tourism industry!

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:54 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
Hope they can contain the mess, otherwise it could be very bad news for wildlife and the tourism industry!

Agreed! Hope the damage to wildlife, etc.isn't too severe  Sad
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:33 am

Seems like some things don't ever change... Scavengers take washed-up goods  Silly
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2):
Seems like some things don't ever change... Scavengers take washed-up goods

Shame I had no way of getting there, wouldn't have minded one of the bikes;

"Around 50 BMW motorbikes were carried off the beach last night," Big grin

Mind you there was a similar incident off North Cornwall just before Christmas when a ship lost it's cargo of tongue and grove flooring. No prizes for guessing what the locals have been using for their DIY recently silly  It's good stuff too, my Cousin managed to get enough to do her whole house!

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:08 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
It's good stuff too, my Cousin managed to get enough to do her whole house!

WoW... So her house is filled with STOLEN property...???
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
WoW... So her house is filled with STOLEN property...???

I really wouldn't know. It's not my place to go about asking picky questions like that about their decisions.

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:30 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2):
Seems like some things don't ever change

They've been doing that on the English coast for centuries! Mind you, deliberately guiding ships on to the rocks seems to frowned on a bit these days...  Wink
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:51 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
WoW... So her house is filled with STOLEN property...???

I don't know whether it would be classed as 'stolen' or not until somebody 'claims the wreck'.  Wink
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:21 am

International waters  Wink salvage is whats washed up on the beach, it belongs to nobody and you can take what you wish without fear of prosecution etc so i heard today on the news. Although what you do take from the beach you have to by law, register and record it.

Doubtful the owners of the BMW bikes etc will come forward...i bet they have some pretty good insurance  Wink
 
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:22 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
Shame I had no way of getting there, wouldn't have minded one of the bikes;

You could have fared beter though, a couple of years back...  Wink

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Loch Shiel Wreck (Whiskey Wreck)

The Loch Shiel was carrying gunpowder and sank in 1894 off Thorn Island. She weighed in at 1218 tons, and was 205ft long and 36ft wide, but is now well weathered and broken up, bearing no resemblance to a majestic sailing ship of her previous years. She lies in 8m-15m of water. She’s also known as the whiskey wreck as the ship was carrying 60 cases, all 100 percent proof, which was picked up by locals, and hidden in cliffs and buried. Some remained concealed for years, and as far back as only 1950 2 bottles were found in a roof of a nearby house in Angle.

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Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
They've been doing that on the English coast for centuries! Mind you, deliberately guiding ships on to the rocks seems to frowned on a bit these days...

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:24 am

Quoting TuRbUleNc3 (Reply 8):
International waters salvage is whats washed up on the beach, it belongs to nobody and you can take what you wish without fear of prosecution etc so i heard today on the news. Although what you do take from the beach you have to by law, register and record it.

Exactly, and even so, it's not stolen - it's lost property Wink

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:18 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
"Around 50 BMW motorbikes were carried off the beach last night,"

Well the locals are doing a good job cleaning them up though...

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/48/489/489652/bmwstjelere858X_1169491671_1169491686.jpg
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
You could have fared beter though, a couple of years back...

Ahh, now that sounds like my kind of ship-wreck. If you pardon the pun, I wonder how many people got 'wrecked' on the bounty Big grin

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:35 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 11):
"Hi Dad, I'm down at the beach and was just wondering if you wanted a new BMW motorbike. Oh, ask mom if she wants one too by the way..."

and in a silly Cornwall accent: "Do you want any of that smelly water stuff, per foom or whatever they call it?"
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:55 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 11):
"Hi Dad, I'm down at the beach and was just wondering if you wanted a new BMW motorbike. Oh, ask mom if she wants one too by the way..."

Silly question - but have the chavs stealing the motorbikes actually thought that A) they are likely to be saltwater damaged beyond repair and B) what the hell is the use of a motorbike with no keys?
 
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:04 am

Quoting Noelg (Reply 14):
Silly question - but have the chavs stealing the motorbikes actually thought that A) they are likely to be saltwater damaged beyond repair and B) what the hell is the use of a motorbike with no keys?

Of course not, they are mere Chavs. You are assuming they have intellect, no, they simply liked the shiny badge. Big grin

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:09 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
Mind you there was a similar incident off North Cornwall just before Christmas when a ship lost it's cargo of tongue and grove flooring. No prizes for guessing what the locals have been using for their DIY recently It's good stuff too, my Cousin managed to get enough to do her whole house!

Wouldn't it warp if it got wet and become useless?

Quoting Noelg (Reply 14):
Silly question - but have the chavs stealing the motorbikes actually thought that A) they are likely to be saltwater damaged beyond repair and B) what the hell is the use of a motorbike with no keys?

Well once they hotwire it, they'll discover the issues when the frame disintegrates as they ride down the road.
 
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:11 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 16):
Wouldn't it warp if it got wet and become useless?

I thought that too, but it seems pretty dry. Still, the ancient cottage they live in is equally damp, so I doubt it'll matter silly 

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:24 am

Quoting Noelg (Reply 14):

Aren't they in containers though?
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:33 am

So when buying a used BMW bike in England these days, stick your ear to the tailpipe and see if you can hear the ocean's roar.

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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:09 am

Quoting Noelg (Reply 14):
A) they are likely to be saltwater damaged beyond repair

The containers did drift ashore, so they weren't flooded that badly. I guess that might help.  Wink

Quoting Noelg (Reply 14):
B) what the hell is the use of a motorbike with no keys?

That is the amazing bit: those folks actually had the keys and papers!!! I've read about it in German, so here goes: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,461346,00.html

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"Die Beamten konnten nichts machen, die Leute hatten Schlüssel und Papiere für die Maschinen", erzählte Augenzeuge Jack aus Plymouth.

"Officials couldn't do a thing, those people had keys and papers for the bikes" says eyewitness Jack from Plymouth.

I distantly remember one documentary about the car port in Emden, NW Germany, that I saw years ago... the folks left all the keys and papers in the cars after parking them aboard the transporter, since obviously no one would be able to sort thousands of keys after unloading the cars. And who could possibly steal a car on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean?
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:28 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
WoW... So her house is filled with STOLEN property...???

It's actually not illegal if you report what you've taken to some government body. The owners, if they want to have their possesions back, have to pay a cash reward.
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:34 pm

I'm sure I saw Cornish on that beach on the news last night. He was carrying armfuls of nappies. Now what would he want them for?  Confused  Wink
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RE: 62,000t Ship Breaking Up Off The Devon Coast

Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:52 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
I'm sure I saw Cornish on that beach on the news last night. He was carrying armfuls of nappies. Now what would he want them for? Confused Wink

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