oli80
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I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:52 pm

So I came home from work yesterday around 16.30 and found my front door open. I initially thought Christina had come home early, but as I pushed the door open the lights were off and the catch was broken. I heard some noises upstairs so immediately called the police.

I waited for them outside and went in with them to check the property once they arrived. My first reactions were that I had imagined it, as my laptop, ipods, xbox 360 and all were still exactly where I had left them that morning.

But, as we went upstairs it became clear, our clothes were thrown all over the place, jewellery boxes everywhere. The police checked the rest of our apartment to see if it was clear and then went to knock on the neighbours doors to see if they had heard or seen anything.

Well, both of their doors had been smashed too. They had hit the whole top floor. The police went in to see if anyone was home, and after both of those apartments had been cleared, they went to check some of the other blocks.

Turns out they hit all the top floor apartments. 9 in total. There are 5 floors per block, with the top apartments being lovely 2 and 3 bed duplexes. The wealthy apartments basically, and they hit all of them.

They ended up with several 1000's worth of stuff from our place alone, nearly all gold jewellery, although the bastards did swipe my xbox 360 video games and Christina's ipod as well.

As I write this now, I feel the anger and aggression building up inside. At the same time I feel that our place has a funny feel to it because someone has broken in. Your home is meant to be your safe place, your place that you can go to get away from the stress of work and life in general. And some 15 year old shit (apparently) has ruined that.  Angry

Anyone have any tips to make my home feel nice and safe again? I am not the calmest of people as it is when I'm home alone, and with Christina going of for a week in a few weeks time, i'm really dreading it.

Anyone else experience this? Any tips to feel safe again?

Thanks for any replies

I would also like to say how professional Kent police were. They responded unbelievably quickly and their forensic team were on site in no time too. Very nice people and made me feel comfortable despite the situation.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
I heard some noises upstairs so immediately called the police. I waited for them outside

 yes  And that was a good decision, your life and health are worth the most.

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
They ended up with several 1000's worth of stuff from our place alone, nearly all gold jewellery, although the bastards did swipe my xbox 360 video games and Christina's ipod as well.

 ouch  sorry to hear that

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
As I write this now, I feel the anger and aggression building up inside.

Which is all too understandable. I too would be furious if my home had been violated... I wish you all the best, mainly that the burglars will be cuaght and sentenced. Hopefully it can be a bit of relief to you even if they're fifteen years old and get out of it the easy way.

I've tried to find an organisation for victim protection in the UK via Google, but I hadn't any luck. Maybe the police can help you there.
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:31 pm

Sorry to hear Mate,
Sounds like some brazen theives did it,hitting around 10 apartments without getting caught and no witnesses or that scaring them off,didnt noticed any sus vehicles,vans, or even a semi trailer with all the shit they probably got from the apartments would be worth abit,Also no people were seen acting sus around area checking place out.

All you can hope if the police eventually track downt he crims and the items and can return them,thats why keeping the codes and identification numbers of xboxs,ipods,bikes etc handy incase something like this happens,Jewelry is hard thing to find after being stolen and returning it.

Deadlock your locks,install alarm,dummy camera can detur theives but doesnt the apartment have any security itself?

Anyway hope for you and rest of apartment can get some of the stuff returned.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:41 pm

Sorry to hear about this. I hope everything gets back to normal asap for you.
 
oli80
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:49 pm

Thanks for all the words of support.

Security is a big issue (or should I say not at all an issue?) at this site. The management company have been pretty lazy when it comes to sorting out our secured parking etc.. The main entrance doors frequently brake, leaving them unlocked.

Because it is an apartment block, there are various regulations in the ground lease that basically prevent you from doing any exterior work to the apartment. Adding extra locks, security alarm are some of these.

We have a meeting with all affected parties today where I am basically going to tell them that I am going to install extra security regardless of what they think. I know I am going to be backed up by the others too.

Thankfully we have very comprehensive contents insurance and buildings insurance that will cover everything. However, some of the rings stolen are family heirlooms, which as you know are irreplaceable.

Having spoken to some of my neighbours, the police advised them that they were pretty sure they would be able to catch the person(s) responsible for this, as they had gathered quite a lot of evidence. Fingers crossed they do.

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 3):
hitting around 10 apartments without getting caught and no witnesses or that scaring them off,didnt noticed any sus vehicles,vans, or even a semi trailer with all the shit they probably got from the apartments would be worth abit,Also no people were seen acting sus around area checking place out.

This is what I don't understand, there are over 200 people that live at this site. The police said they had interviewed several people, but that no-one called the police before I did. It just seems really strange that breaking in 9 front doors would not alarm someone.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:36 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Reply 5):
The police said they had interviewed several people, but that no-one called the police before I did. It just seems really strange that breaking in 9 front doors would not alarm someone.

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THIS unfortunately sounds like an "inside-job", one of the residents (sons?) having been involved. So that nobody thought anything when people of the neighbourhood were around.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:41 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Reply 5):
The management company have been pretty lazy when it comes to sorting out our secured parking etc

I used to live in an apartment block of new apartments, in fact it was my first home. The management company that we used were pretty useless. In the end all the residents got together and decided it would be far better to do it ourselves. You continue to pay the service charge into a pot but you have more control over what happens to your money and you will probably save some cash in the process. It's easy enough to employ a gardener, window cleaner and painter and decorator, etc... At least then you know where your money is going. It's not that difficult to do.

We also got a barrier installed at the entrance to the car park.  Smile
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:06 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
I heard some noises upstairs so immediately called the police.
I waited for them outside

You did just the right thing.

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
As I write this now, I feel the anger and aggression building up inside.

Don't let this take you over. You have to accept what happened - towards yourself, not towards the shithead who burgled you, of course. But don't allow him to make you angry - he doesn't deserve that power.

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
At the same time I feel that our place has a funny feel to it because someone has broken in. Your home is meant to be your safe place, your place that you can go to get away from the stress of work and life in general.

Well described - I felt exactly the same after I was burgled a couple of years ago.

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
Anyone have any tips to make my home feel nice and safe again?

Not that easy. Good door and window locks will help a bit (and I would always recommend them). There is no bulletproof way to keep somebody out of your home, but good locks make me feel easier when I am inside. I know that there will be no silent way to break into my home, so the small noises won't bother me.

When you're away, video surveillance may help you feel easier. A WLAN camera with motion detector (plus WLAN router, if you don't already have it yet) won't cost much, and the camera can send pictures right to your cellphone. Sure, this doesn't prevent anybody from breaking in, but at least you'll know what's going on (and can call the police right away).

Good luck with recovering from the shock. Could have been worse.  Smile

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 2):
If only you'd had a gun for home defense. Then they could have stolen that too!

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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:17 pm

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 2):
If only you'd had a gun for home defense. Then they could have stolen that too!

Or if he or his wife/girlfriend had been home at the time they might have had to use it to defend themselves.  Yeah sure I'm so glad that the UK has no home invasion crimes.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:24 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
Anyone else experience this? Any tips to feel safe again?

I was robbed at gun point in my back garden, a few years ago, by a bunch of young thugs who were looking for money to finance drugs. My wife luckily was inside and called the cops , they were there in about 5 mins, just enough time to catch one of the b******s, he squealed and the others were caught, they received two years suspended sentence and believe it or not they did the same thing a couple of weeks later. Their names cannot be revealed beacuse they were all under 16. They can rob and beat someone but their names can't be revealed, what a joke. My advice to you is to make sure that you have an alarm system and well as two locks on your front door. But the best advise to you is to get on with your life and don't let these a******s intimidate you and especially Christina. Women are funny about people going though their things not like guys , who just want to beat the c++p out of the thugs. Stay safe
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:32 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
Anyone have any tips to make my home feel nice and safe again?

Time

I was a victim like this once. When I opened the door, they were still inside, and running out the back door. I chased them, caught up to them, and started beating the crap out of the slowest one. I had a piece of wood that I was was hitting the guy with when he hollered out to his buddy, "shoot him, shoot him" I ran back inside my house, got my gun and went back after the bastards. Too late, they were gone.

Once the police got there, they found a loaded 9mm in my back yard. Apparently one of the thugs dropped it during the chase. (fortunately) Anyway, the police caught one of them a few blocks away running down the street, and he dropped dime on his buddy. They found him at the local hospital getting stitches in hi head, and a cast on his leg.

In the end, they both got 20 year as this wasn't their first conviction. Both were paroled after seven years.

It's a real strange feeling having your home violated. It took a long while for me to stop sleeping with my gun right next to the bed on the night stand. This was before my son was born, so I didn't have those issues to worry about.

You'll be fine in the long run - especially once the police catch them, and put them in jail - keep us posted.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:39 pm

Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
I'm so glad that the UK has no home invasion crimes.



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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:50 pm

Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
Quoting LHMARK (Reply 2):
If only you'd had a gun for home defense. Then they could have stolen that too!

Or if he or his wife/girlfriend had been home at the time they might have had to use it to defend themselves.

Or they could have shot her with it upon her arriving home and finding them.
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:04 am

Thanks for the further replies and advice. Some of your experiences sound horrifying. Anything that involves weapons scares the crap out of me.

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I'm having a real problem trying to get my front door secured at the moment. Everyone is blaming each other, and our front doors aren't getting fixed in the process. Bastards! We may need to spend another night at Christina's parents house whilst we have a door that is barely hanging on.
 
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:57 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5):
THIS unfortunately sounds like an "inside-job", one of the residents (sons?) having been involved. So that nobody thought anything when people of the neighbourhood were around.

That is my only concern with the apartment complex that I live in. It is 10 times easier for someone to rob this place during the day than at night. There are 8 apartments in my little building and there are many times that I walk outside on a weekday afternoon and find that my car is the only one in the parking lot- everyone else is at work. It is too easy for this place to get robbed during the day because there is no one home and therefore no witnesses. I'm going back to a day shift starting this week, so I too will be gone during the day.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 12):
Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
Quoting LHMARK (Reply 2):
If only you'd had a gun for home defense. Then they could have stolen that too!

Or if he or his wife/girlfriend had been home at the time they might have had to use it to defend themselves.

Or they could have shot her with it upon her arriving home and finding them.

All three of those outcomes are possible. Which is why whenever I leave my apartment, I make sure that my guns a locked up so that if someone broke in, the guns can not be stolen. Also, if the only person home is someone who is not comfortable with, or not capable to use a gun, then the gun also needs to be locked up.

Edit to add:

I feel for you Oli- you handled the situation correctly and I am glad that you and your girl were not hurt!

[Edited 2007-01-30 17:59:27]
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:13 am

Quoting Ilikeyyc (Reply 14):
All three of those outcomes are possible. Which is why whenever I leave my apartment, I make sure that my guns a locked up so that if someone broke in, the guns can not be stolen. Also, if the only person home is someone who is not comfortable with, or not capable to use a gun, then the gun also needs to be locked up.

Edit to add:

I feel for you Oli- you handled the situation correctly and I am glad that you and your girl were not hurt!

Someone who really does see the whole picture, well said.
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:17 am

I'm very sorry to hear about that  Sad It never ceases to amaze me how low some people will sink. I wish you, and the other tennants luck in tracking the person, or people, responsible for this.
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:35 am

Oli80, sorry to read about that. I check up on a couple of friends holiday properties once a week here in the Algarve, when they are back in the UK. About 18 months ago one got robbed, not much of value got taken, most of the costs came from the repairs to the doors, windows and shutters. The other one, about 100 yards away got robbed the following week, and same story regarding the main cost being the repairs, and the slight irritation of sitting there for 7 hours waiting for the Plod to show up to write a crime report. Later that week my office got robbed - they stole a whole 20 Euros, left all of the computers etc, but the glass door cost 800 Euros to replace. The following week our Ford disappeared, and because it was over 8 years old, you can't get theft coverage in Portugal. So, I was feeling pretty paranoid about crime for a while, but as ORFflyer correctly says, in time your life goes back to normal. However, without going too Clint Eastwood, beef up security, spend the extra cash on some decent locks, and get a proper burglar alarm fitted, don't spent £5 on a fake box, regardless of what the rules of the apartment block are - you have a right to protect yourself and property. We even got a couple of cameras installed. It's all about deterrent.
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:58 am

I've been robbed before. I was in the sleeper of my truck sleeping, when someone got inside, and stole my pants. In my pants, was my wallet, keys to my house, car, truck, and other things. On it was my only set of keys to my GMC Jimmy. In my wallet were some various credit cards. I never keep cash in my wallet, always in my pants pocket. I had about $60 cash in there. I never keep my keys in my pocket, unless I'm going into a store or something. They used the business check card to buy some stuff at a grocery store, and gas station. The thing is, I didn't have any money in that account at the time. The bank cleared the charges without any money being in there.

After I found all this out, I had the most vile feelings I've had for any human. I wished death and torture on them. This happened over a year ago, and I still get angry about it. I now take extra precautions when I have to. Good luck, hopefully they will catch the bastards.
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RE: I Was Burgled Yesterday

Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:08 am

Quoting Oli80 (Thread starter):
And some 15 year old shit (apparently) has ruined that.

Doesn't soundlike a 15 year old to me, if it were your Xbox would have gone too. It doesn't sound like an inside job but i wouldnt discount it, ive heard of someone taking every item and fitting from a neighbours house and setting it all up next door in his own!
A career criminal it does sound like (in my experience) jewellery are the number one items on the burglars list, bypassing 32" LCD tv's etc for quick small expensive items that can be put into a bin liner for instance and easily carried, jewellery 90% of the time are kept in bedrooms,this will be the first place they head for making a very untidy search. normally the offender will have previously burgled as sounds like the case here and could well be a drug addict hence the quick sell jewellery items that can be taken to the nearest cash converter for a quick fix, it sounds like someone who is quite clumsy, taking a chance in 1 property is enough let alone 10 properties, sounds like SOCO may have a good chance on these burglaries finding a fingerprint or some other DNA.

Now you can help the police in a couple of ways:-

1. maybe late now but dial 1471 for last number recieved and redial for last number called, amazing how many burglars stop to phone a friend! or even know your number and call to find an unanswered property.

2. Check yourself for routes into the area, particularily close by that have CCTV and inform the officer in charge of case.

3. Visit the local cash converter yourself , you may identify your jewellery on sale, if so call Police immediately.

4. Look around, even a few days after events you may see an item that has been moved physically in the course of the burglary that you never saw before.

im sorry to hear of this story, it happens too much nowadays.

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