aloges
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Coffee Mills

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:21 pm

Hi all!

Recently, I started milling the black pepper I use instead of buying it milled. I noticed several worlds of difference in the taste, and that got me thinking about the coffee I like to drink.

I usually make small portions, no more than two cups at a time, using a French press. I still buy my coffee milled, and to be honest it could sometimes be better. So how much of a difference would I notice if I had a mill and bought the beans instead of the powder?

thanks for your time,
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RE: Coffee Mills

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:30 pm

Quoting Aloges (Thread starter):
So how much of a difference would I notice if I had a mill and bought the beans instead of the powder?

Light Years.

I never use pre-ground coffee. It's ground right before I use it, I prefer a very fine grind. There's no mistaking the difference.

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RE: Coffee Mills

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:49 pm

I agree with ANCFlyer! The difference is night and day.
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RE: Coffee Mills

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:52 pm

If you really want to do it right, get an electric bur mill (not a hand-turned mill, as you might find it too slow). Each bean passes through the bur mill once, which makes for an even ground. Also, the bur mills tend not to heat the bean, as do impellor grinders.

Impellor grinders are not ideal, as beans that have been ground continue to be smashed by the impellor, which causes uneveness--i.e., some course ground and some fine ground.
 
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RE: Coffee Mills

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:57 pm

Quoting Aloges (Thread starter):
my coffee milled

I did so as well but a few years ago switched to buy it un-milled at mill it in those machines at the exit of decent supermarkets. It is much better that way.
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Alright, in the 50ies, everybody had one of those wooden coffee mills at home to do it daily.
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aloges
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:08 am

Seems like you're all in agreement, I'll probably start saving for a mill then.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 4):
Alright, in the 50ies, everybody had one of those wooden coffee mills at home to do it daily.

That's exactly what I'm thinking about, a Peugeot mill in particular. My pepper mill is a Peugeot model and I'm very pleased with it, I'm also a bit of a sucker for high(er)-end kitchen tools.
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:12 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
you'll never be sorry

Until your mill batteries run out in the middle of nowhere AK with no spares Big grin
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:21 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 6):
Until your mill batteries run out in the middle of nowhere AK with no spares

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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:39 am

Quoting Aloges (Thread starter):

I usually make small portions, no more than two cups at a time, using a French press. I still buy my coffee milled, and to be honest it could sometimes be better. So how much of a difference would I notice if I had a mill and bought the beans instead of the powder?

I would recommend you to go to a Tschibo shop and try fresh milled coffee. They mill it there for you.

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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:53 am

Quoting Pelican (Reply 8):
try fresh milled coffee. They mill it there for you.

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right, in some places they mill it for you, in others you can do the milling there with a machine of them. Except that Tchiba in my view is too weak.
 
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
I never use pre-ground coffee. It's ground right before I use it, I prefer a very fine grind. There's no mistaking the difference.

Do it . . . you'll never be sorry.

Absolutely!! I flatly refuse to buy pre-ground now....it tastes like crap compared to feshly-ground.
When buying your beans, though, make sure that they gleam with natural oils, or else you may as well be buying cans of (ewww) Maxwell House.
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 7):
N00b!

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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):
I got 300 days on you and your calling me a N00b?

The hell you have, and you know it.  Wink
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:52 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
I never use pre-ground coffee. It's ground right before I use it, I prefer a very fine grind. There's no mistaking the difference.

The problem with the ground coffee you buy in the stores is that the packages are prone to lose their seal (especially those in vacuum sealed packages). Once air gets into ground coffee, the quality begins to go down. Now the fractional pack coffee is better because each pack is a set amount and the packs have nitrogen pumped in which also helps to keep the coffee fresher longer. But like the vacuum sealed packs you see in the stores, they too can have their seals fail as well (especially if they pump too much nitrogen into the packs and the end up popping their seals due to pressure.).

One important thing to remember with coffee is that air and moisture are coffee's two worst enemies. This is true with ground coffee and with beans. So make sure the container the beans are stored in has a vacuum seal that won't let air or moisture in.

As for a grinder, a burr mill is the way to go. Here's a site that has numerous reviews on grinders and other coffee-related products:

CoffeeGeek.com

Their review section of grinders contains over 900 different grinders:
http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders
 
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RE: Coffee Mills

Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:26 am

Oh yeah, one other thing...don't EVER store your coffe beans in the fridge or freezer. That's a sure-fire way of drying up all those lovely natural oils that keep the flavor so good. Store them at room temperature in an airtight container and only grind what you need.
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