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Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:19 pm

Where did everybody go?
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:55 pm

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:57 pm

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Thread starter):
Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Well, duh....he couldn't take you up anyway. He broke it.  wave 
 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:59 pm

Is that for real? What the hell happened there!
 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:01 pm

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 3):
Is that for real? What the hell happened there!

He hit the overhang over the hanger doors with his rotors coz he didn't look up!!
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:03 pm

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 4):

He hit the overhang over the hanger doors with his rotors coz he didn't look up!!

Oh, thanks; I had no idea. Honestly!
 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:10 pm

"I apologize" HAH!
 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:42 pm

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 6):
"I apologize" HAH!

Would have been funnier if he'd said "What a rush!!"

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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:48 pm

You need to be under clear Space before moving vertically up  Smile
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:56 pm

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
Well, duh....he couldn't take you up anyway. He broke it.

 rotfl 

Well, honestly I feel sorry for the pilot, with so many distractions around him, he even forgot the basic rules of flying.
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:19 pm

Holy Crap! Yeah thats just freaky! I would shiznat my pants if I was the dude filming! All the stuff shooting everywhere.

Here at MAE (Madera, CA public airport), a guy by the name of Dave Berry owns two helicopters (one now) and a lear jet. He owns a lot of property around here. Well he got pissed off at his hellicopter piolt because he did not want to fly in the current weather like that. So Dave got pissed off and got in the helicopter by himself and started it up and started to take off...well he didnt un chain it from the ground and it came right back down to the ground and crashed it. It was in the paper the next day and he was the laughing stock of Madera. Everyone here hates him with a passion.
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:59 pm

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 9):
Well, honestly I feel sorry for the pilot, with so many distractions around him, he even forgot the basic rules of flying.

He was definitely at fault but yes I can feel sorry for him but he has to be able to deal with such situations. All the more warning for everyone watching.
Glad they were okay, though I think the pilot might have been wishing he had at least passed out, so he wouldn't have to say ' I apologise ', it sounded so weird.
 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:17 am

Funny, but it's not like it was a real helicopter. duck 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:35 am

NTSB synopsis & report (for public use):


NTSB Identification: CHI04LA212.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Thursday, August 05, 2004 in Chesterfield, MO
Probable Cause Approval Date: 7/7/2005
Aircraft: Robinson R44, registration: N7036J
Injuries: 1 Minor, 3 Uninjured.

The helicopter was substantially damaged when the main rotor contacted an open hangar door during takeoff and the helicopter subsequently impacted the ground. The pilot stated that the helicopter was parked on the ramp approximately 35 feet from the hangar. The bi-fold hangar door was open and extended about 10 feet out over the ramp. He stated that after takeoff, as the aircraft began to move away from the hangar, the passenger in the left front seat "accidentally and inadvertently hit or bumped the counterweight portion of the cyclic." The helicopter drifted toward the open hangar door and before he could correct the drift the main rotor clipped the bottom edge of the door. He recalled: "I quickly maneuvered away from the hangar building and began to level the aircraft." The helicopter descended to the ramp. The subsequent hard landing caused the skids to collapse and the main rotor to sever the tail boom. A ground witness to the accident submitted a video recording of the accident flight. Review of the recording revealed that after the helicopter lifted-off, it paused in a hover for a few seconds and then began to climb out, subsequently contacting the door. No drift toward the hangar building was observed prior to rotor blade contact with the door.


The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

The pilot's inadequate preflight planning due to his selection of an unsuitable takeoff area and his failure to maintain clearance from the open hangar door. A contributing factor was the open hangar door.


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On August 5, 2004, at 1200 central daylight time, a Robinson R44, N7036J, piloted by a commercial pilot, was substantially damaged when the main rotor contacted an open hangar door during takeoff and the helicopter subsequently impacted the ground at Spirit of St. Louis Airport (SUS), Chesterfield, Missouri. The flight was being conducted under 14 CFR Part 91 and was not on a flight plan. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed. The pilot and 2 passengers reported no injuries. A third passenger reported minor injuries. The local flight was originating at the time of the accident.

In his written statement, the pilot reported that the flight was to be a local sightseeing flight for the 3 passengers. He added that the left side flight controls had been removed. The pilot stated that the helicopter was parked on the ramp approximately 35 feet from the hangar. He reported that the bi-fold hangar door was open and extended about 10 feet out over the ramp.

The pilot stated that after completing the normal start-up and pre-flight procedures, he established that the area was clear and picked up into a 6 - 8 foot hover. He reported that he began to move away from the hangar. He stated that as he did so the passenger in the left front seat turned to his right and "accidentally and inadvertently hit or bumped the counterweight portion of the cyclic as he turned."

The pilot stated that the helicopter drifted toward the open hangar door and before he could correct the drift the main rotor clipped the bottom edge of the door. He recalled: "I quickly maneuvered away from the hangar building and began to level the aircraft." The helicopter descended to the ramp. The subsequent hard landing caused the skids to collapse and the main rotor to sever the tail boom.

A ground witness to the accident submitted a video recording of the accident flight. Review of the recording revealed that after the helicopter lifted-off, it paused in a hover for a few seconds and then began to climb out, subsequently contacting the door. No drift toward the hangar building was observed prior to rotor blade contact with the door.


Source


Factual Report (PDF)
Probable Cause Report (PDF)


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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:46 pm

I doubt the Pilots statement of a Pax Inadvertently moving the Cyclic pitch lever.It moved vertically upwards with no sudden fwd mvmt.
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:54 pm

Can we say Pilot Error?
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:06 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 15):
Can we say Pilot Error?

The NTSB already did.
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:14 pm

Quoting Andrewuber (Reply 16):
Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 15):
Can we say Pilot Error?

The NTSB already did.

I'd imagine his passengers made that assessment shortly after.
 
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:31 pm

and see? thats exactly why i dont fly in helicopters. they are too flimsy for me. i dont trust them!!
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:02 pm

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):
and see? thats exactly why i dont fly in helicopters. they are too flimsy for me. i dont trust them!!

Ditto! I cant put my trust in a set of rotorblades, uh uh.


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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:20 am

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):
i dont fly in helicopters

Helicopters don't fly. They are so ugly that the earth repels them.
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:27 am

I've only ever flown in one type of helicopter, but that one was a wee bit bigger than the R44 in the top video...  Smile

And by pure coincidence it is included in this video I made from when I was in the air force. Hehe.



Helicopters are perfectly safe... it's the people flying them who decide how safe...

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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:54 am

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):



and see? thats exactly why i dont fly in helicopters. they are too flimsy for me. i dont trust them!!

With Autorotation.Helicopters are safe.Only doubt if you loose the Tail rotor  Smile

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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:03 pm

Given that the R44 came down from 12-15 feet and nobody was seriously injured has to speak fairly highly of the strength of that little helicopter.
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This

Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:23 pm

In the video you can hear someone say "Ride's Over, huh?" haha

[Edited 2007-03-12 15:25:05]
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RE: Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:33 pm

Good example of a good landing; not a gerat one.

Good landings you walk away from, great ones let you re-use the aircraft.
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