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Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:14 pm

Today is the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Rome.

Congratulations Europe!
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:24 pm

Cue lots of English bah-humbug (from Kirkie) about the rebate and Polish plumbers  Smile

I vote for a treaty amendment forcing all holdout countries to join the Euro within 12 months.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:35 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
I vote for a treaty amendment forcing all holdout countries to join the Euro within 12 months.

Completely agree. The whole thing has been fabulous from start to finish. We should do it tomorrow. Oh yes.  yes 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:44 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
Cue lots of English bah-humbug (from Kirkie) about the rebate and Polish plumbers Smile

Interesting since "Polish Plumber" is a French invention.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
I vote for a treaty amendment forcing all holdout countries to join the Euro within 12 months.

Even if they don't comply with the rules the EU set for Euro? BTW, You really think Euro is the biggest problem the EU is facing right now?
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:45 pm

Not forgetting that doing such a thing would probably be distrastrous for those countries, economy-wise.
Its the EUs 50th anniversary, unfortunately...
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:47 pm

Yes, congratulations Europe!

Signed
Norway, Switzerland and Iceland.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:05 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
I vote for a treaty amendment forcing all holdout countries to join the Euro within 12 months.

Hopefully will never happen. Euro should be a free choice, not a forced change.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:06 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 5):
Signed
Norway, Switzerland and Iceland.

Are they still part of Europe?  duck 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:12 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 2):
Completely agree. The whole thing has been fabulous from start to finish. We should do it tomorrow. Oh yes

Since when has actual success been a measurement criterion for the EU ? Silly boy. Just accept the inevitable, let go, give in to your rage, your anger ! That way lies the path to the Dark Side ! BwuAH-HAhhahaha !!!



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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:24 pm

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 7):
Are they still part of Europe?

Nah, we're North-America now...  Wink

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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:26 pm

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Nah, we're North-America now...

Damn that continental drift !
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:31 pm

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Nah, we're North-America now...

Shame, I wanted to visit your country sometime in the future, and now I have to plan an expensive trans-atlantic trip.  Wink
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:35 pm

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Nah, we're North-America now...

Yes? I thought that only the UK is a US territory in Europe. They allready fulfill American policy and requests of the US President.  Cool

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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:28 pm

Congrats.
So is there any special celebrations planned.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:50 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
So is there any special celebrations planned.

Yes - a special plenary session of the European Parliament is scheduled, where a bill will be passed forcing all member states to have only straight bananas, insisting that any non-French cheese now be labelled instead "rotted lactose of non-French origin", enforcing the sale of all solid and liquid comestibles in hectograms and decalitres, declaring any chocolate of less than 100% cocoa content "tile grout", granting an additional 100 trillion Euros in CAP grants to oyster and mussel farms in the high Pyrenees, and banning English as a language. I read it in the Daily Mail, so it must be true.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:03 pm

..we lack the signing -ceremony for Lichtenstein, Monaco,San Marino,Andorra,Vatican State and- last but not least -the Freistaat Bayern !
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Europe is a great achievement -no doubt !
Without the visions of people like Schuhmann ,Adenauer , Paul Henri Spaak - this would never have taken off.
And thanks to the various treaties,the economy has become strong and robust,despite the increase of prices due to the introduction of the Euro.
Overall,one of the rare build-ups managed by politicians that actually worked.One should be critical but not neglect to recognize the importance and goal of the task.If criticism should be formulated,it's against the overpowering bureaucracy and duplication of sites (Bruxelles -Strasbourg..!!),the multiplication of stupid rules and laws.
But the bottom line is positive - happy birthday !
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:07 pm

The Euro looks funnier without Norway joining the EU...



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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:09 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 16):
The Euro looks funnier without Norway joining the EU...

Are the going to recall all the Euro coins and add Bulgaria and Romania ? I think they should.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:14 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 14):
Yes - a special plenary session of the European Parliament is scheduled, where a bill will be passed forcing all member states to have only straight bananas, insisting that any non-French cheese now be labelled instead "rotted lactose of non-French origin", enforcing the sale of all solid and liquid comestibles in hectograms and decalitres, declaring any chocolate of less than 100% cocoa content "tile grout", granting an additional 100 trillion Euros in CAP grants to oyster and mussel farms in the high Pyrenees, and banning English as a language. I read it in the Daily Mail, so it must be true.

JGPH1A you forgot the Norm for the tractor-seat...I think you "forgot" that because you would not fit in.  Smile
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:27 pm

Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 18):
you forgot the Norm for the tractor-seat...I think you "forgot" that because you would not fit in.

Moi ? Be seen anywhere in the same vicinity as agricultural equipment ? I think not !
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 16):
The Euro looks funnier without Norway joining the EU...

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl  good imagination !


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Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:11 am

That



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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:20 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 5):
Yes, congratulations Europe!

Signed
Norway, Switzerland and Iceland.

Switzerland now is joining the Schengen Zone and has ratified the Dublin Agreement, while Norway and Iceland have been in the EEA for quite a while now. Actually, Federal Councillor Mrs Micheline Calmy-Rey has officially congratulated the E.U. these days and emphasized the importance of the E.U. for Switzerland.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:27 am

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 7):
Norway, Switzerland and Iceland.

Are they still part of Europe? duck

well, let's see :
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the Schengen area with those where it is not yet fully implemented in light blue
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they ARE, however the U.K. and Ireland are NOT !  Big grin  duck 
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 7):

Are they still part of Europe?

Oh yes, we very well are, even without wasting €4B a year on the EU  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:40 am

Well, happy birthday Europe, and thanks for 50 years of prosperity and peace, as you succesfully succeeded keeping your member states of going to war among each other, something not seen the last...erm... few thousand years...
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:15 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 10):
Damn that continental drift!

Yes, let's damn it.  Silly

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 11):
Shame, I wanted to visit your country sometime in the future, and now I have to plan an expensive trans-atlantic trip.

Though semi-trans atlantic, the prices are around the same as transatlantic from fx. Deutschland... I think.

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 12):
Yes? I thought that only the UK is a US territory in Europe. They allready fulfill American policy and requests of the US President.

I'm talking about the part of the world, 'left' of Thingvellir is North America, and 'right' of it is Europe.

So, Iceland's in Aurope and North-Emerica (ehhhh...).
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:05 am

One more "Happy Birthday" from me!

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 5):
Norway, Switzerland and Iceland

Thanks! Big grin Aren't you lot just jealous though that the EFTA never really took off?  Wink
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:05 am

I'm just back from the official birthday party at the Brandenburger Tor here in Berlin. Nice, even though very crowded.


The US Embassy put a huge sign up saying "The United States commend Europe on 50 years successful cooperation". Nice gesture, I thought.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:12 am

Quoting Rara (Reply 28):
The US Embassy put a huge sign up saying "The United States commend Europe on 50 years successful cooperation". Nice gesture, I thought.

Very nice, I would say.  thumbsup 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:34 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 8):
Valerie Giscard d'Estaing (aka Dark Lord Imperius of the Sith)

Our first/former Présidente de la Vème République?  duck 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:18 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 27):
One more "Happy Birthday" from me!

And another one (although a little late) from me..!

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Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:52 am

Quoting Rara (Reply 28):
the official birthday party at the Brandenburger Tor

nice pictures were on TV about it. Things like this
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:39 pm

Quoting Aloges (Reply 27):
Aren't you lot just jealous though that the EFTA never really took off?

We seem to be doing just fine outside of the EU...  Smile

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Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:52 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 33):
We seem to be doing just fine outside of the EU... Smile

Norway and Iceland and Liechtenstein have the EEA and Switzerland has the Bilaterals, and as shown above are in the Schengen-Zone, and that to me means to be INSIDE the E.U., just without voting right, but paying a bit less and having the chance not to accept everything. I dare say that Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein in reality are far more integrated than the United Kingdom.
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Beside the point that I am NOT so sure whether the German population would have accepted Schengen in a popular vote, while the Swiss population HAS accepted Schengen in a vote.
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:00 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
I vote for a treaty amendment forcing all holdout countries to join the Euro within 12 months.

Blech...don't like the EU. Norway has the right idea...all the benefits, none of the other B.S. I wish the UK was like Norway in that respect.

Quoting Rara (Reply 28):
The US Embassy put a huge sign up saying "The United States commend Europe on 50 years successful cooperation". Nice gesture, I thought.

We're just happy we haven't had to come break up another fight between Germany and . Tho maybe we're NOT happy...we're so punchy we're just going off and starting wars. I guess we miss breaking up European fights. It's all YOUR fault!
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 33):
We seem to be doing just fine outside of the EU

And that's nice. I love Europe because of its variety of cultures. The EU motto is In varietate concordia ("united in diversity") and sums the status of the whole Europe up quite nicely. Yes, this means awful layers of bureaucracy for gluing together the different languages, customs, needs and politics. That's the price to pay for having such rich historic heritage.

But... I won't change the "messed up", slow, asymmetric and inefficient Europe for a perfectly-efficient, homogeneous, anonymous and flat entity any day.

P.S. Sorry for my English.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:29 pm

More like commiserations - lets hope the eu is not around for its 51st!
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:35 pm

Wow, I must be the only non Eurosceptic Brit on here!!
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:40 pm

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 38):
Wow, I must be the only non Eurosceptic Brit on here!!

Euroscepticism does seem to be the mainstream of thought though I know some Brits who like the EU. Not many. I'm not a fan of the EU myself; it's a giant blood clot of bureaucracy and silly rules to me. I don't get how it all works and beyond free market principles I don't see the point of it.

Clearly knocking down trade barriers is good for Europe, but the more poor nations are added as members, the worse off some other nations seem to be. To me it seems that it's a lot easier to shift manufacturing jobs out of the UK to poor EU member states and I don't like that. I don't like the whole political philosophy that member states have to buy into. It's not just trade or the single currency...you have the whole human rights thing too. It's not just economical; it's a whole philosophy, and I don't buy into some parts of it. I don't like that all the member states seem to be dictated to by France and Germany.

I may be way off base here; I wasn't raised in Europe and have no vested interest in the US of Europe experiment...so if I'm completely wrong, please do set me straight.
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:41 pm

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 38):
Wow, I must be the only non Eurosceptic Brit on here!!

Probably the only one in the country. Careful, they'll be exhibiting you in Brussels.  Wink
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Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:44 pm

yep - in full complaince with the EU regulations on taxidermy!
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Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:01 pm

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 35):
wish the UK was like Norway in that respect.

strange is that the U.K., while being a full E.U. member abstains from the Schengen-agreement, which countries like Norway and Switzerland have approved, Switzerland even with a public vote. As the Swiss Foreign Minister once said, the criminals get into the country even WITH full border controls, such stuff only bothers normal people. But the various co-operation schemes of the Schengen program give considerable advantages to the law-enforcers. I don't know how it is in Norway, but in Switzerland, it is contradictory, in so far as the Bilaterals have brought Switzerland into the E.U. sufficiently, so that there is no urgency in joining the E.U. in full, the pro-E.U. people in Switzerland therefore simply are waiting, it on the other hand will make the final entry a mere formality really. In Switzerland, the Euro is very very slowly but steadily getting percentage points in its favour, so that the change will come, but not so swiftly.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:22 pm

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 39):
it's a giant blood clot of bureaucracy and silly rules to me.

Bureaucracy is a problem of the European Union, the same, however, goes for individual states as well. It's only so much easier to point the finger outside the country. That said, the fact that every member state demands to have a saying in everything, doesn't help reducing bureaucracy.
As for the rules: sure, many are stupid - at least for bystanders - some of those rules actually were the ideas of institutions, such as farmer collectives. The European Union now burdens the blame for that. But yes, I would be happy to see many of the rules erased.

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 39):
To me it seems that it's a lot easier to shift manufacturing jobs out of the UK to poor EU member states and I don't like that.

This is patently wrong. After joining the Union, so called "low-income countries" will have to adopt the same rules for their economy valid for the rest of the EU. With the fall of trade barriers, tighter environmental and social control, "outsourcing" jobs to poorer countries in Europe actually becomes less attractive.

The European Union is the best thing that could happen to Europe. I'm sure there are quite a number of Asian, African and South American countries that envy Europe for this accomplishment.
The EU is not perfect, but those sullen blowhards blaming Europe for everything should be reminded that sullen blowhards are often responsible for the increase of bureaucracy and stupid rules.

- The EU has helped millions to move and work in other countries - often without paper-works.
- Free movement and no border controls within Schengen member countries.
- The EU significantly improved standards of living in the poorer regions of Europe.
- The EU helps to preserve natural habitats and cultural heritages.
- The EU has raised standards for the treatment of animals.
- Equal rights for each member country no matter how economically powerful.
- One common currency that is so strong it even pushes the currencies of other member countries that did not join the Eurozone.
- The EU promotes human rights and humanitarian rights and the common grounds of Christianity and enlightenment.
- The EU helps to improve the quality food and pharmaceutical products and helps to protect the environment
- The EU improves safety standards - be it for household products or transportation.
- No war ever within the European Union.
- The EU provides sullen blowhards with new fodder for absurd and self-righteous thoughts.

Not bad, huh?
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:51 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 14):

 Smile

Europe is so Tiny,but the Development is just amazing.Congrats to all you hard working people out there.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 43):
Not bad, huh?
Next comes a constitution and maybe joint armed forces.

That's the upside, I guess. The downside is that the UK government grossly underestimated the number of eastern European migrants coming from the new member nations in 2004 and now services in some parts of the UK are stretched to breaking point by all the new arrivals. It's not very much fun for people who can't get an appointment with a doctor because the surgeries are jammed with arrivals that the government did not plan for.
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:24 am

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 45):
the UK government grossly underestimated the number of eastern European migrants coming from the new member nations in 2004 and now services in some parts of the UK are stretched to breaking point by all the new arrivals. It's not very much fun for people who can't get an appointment with a doctor because the surgeries are jammed with arrivals that the government did not plan for.

I do NOT see the problem to be really coming from the number of the East-European immigrants. In 1956/57 and 1968, Germany in total numbers and Austria and Switzerland in relative per capita numbers accommodated more immigrants than most others, but did NOT have problems with social services. And it was/is the same since the 1990ies. East European immigrants may pose problems in a way but at the other hand solve problems of the agricultural sector. There of course are problems as always when many new immigrants arrive anywhere, but "stretched to breaking point" simply is ridiculous, particularily in the U.K. which in a way even is "guarded" by the Channel.
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Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:34 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 46):
I do NOT see the problem to be really coming from the number of the East-European immigrants. In 1956/57 and 1968, Germany in total numbers and Austria and Switzerland in relative per capita numbers accommodated more immigrants than most others, but did NOT have problems with social services. And it was/is the same since the 1990ies. East European immigrants may pose problems in a way but at the other hand solve problems of the agricultural sector. There of course are problems as always when many new immigrants arrive anywhere, but "stretched to breaking point" simply is ridiculous, particularily in the U.K. which in a way even is "guarded" by the Channel.

You may not see it (how would you...you're not here), but the BBC reported it today.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6494651.stm

As I stated before, these are legal migrants coming from new EU countries...we are not talking about illegal immigrants here. The Channel is no barrier to EU passport holders. The fact that mass migration did not stretch social services in other countries means nothing; we're talking about the UK, not Germany, and the UK's social services are chronically underfunded and overstretched. In some areas, this is the proverbial last straw. I've noticed a significant increase in waiting times to see a doctor since 2004. I used to be able to get an appointment the same week, if not the same DAY as I requested it, and at the time I wanted it as well. Now if I want an appointment I have to take what's available and they're never convenient...and they usually involve a 1-2 week wait.

It's not the migrants' fault; I don't blame them. They're exercising their rights. The government completely failed to properly estimate how many of them would come here. You can't say that they're not at least part of the reason why services here are having problems.
 
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:50 am

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 47):
You may not see it

I don't see it either, and I do live here. Sure, a rush of economic migrants puts some strain on infrastructure, but they have been coming in because we need the workers. It's been an economic benefit for the UK to have them.

As for complaining about losing jobs to Eastern Europe, in a free market that's going to happen irrespective of what you do. Britain has benefitted in just the same way from its comparatively low taxation and low-regulated business environment. Given the low level of unemployment and the relative success of the economy in comparison to almost any western country in the last decade and a half, I don't see how anyone can say it's been the wrong move. Inward investment into the UK is higher than any other European nation, you can't think that's great on the one hand and then complain when some jobs go the other way.
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RE: Happy Birthday Europe (EU Anniversary)

Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:43 pm

I'm hoping in 2107 people will be celebrating the 50th anniversary of the EU's demise  Smile

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