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Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:19 am

His colon cancer has spread to his liver. The five-year survival rate is 7%.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Doctors have removed a small, malignant growth from presidential spokesman Tony Snow's abdomen, but they determined the cancer had spread to his liver, the White House said Tuesday.

Snow, 51, told reporters during a Friday briefing that he was having the growth removed but shrugged it off as a precautionary measure.

"We have found a small growth in my lower abdomen. Blood tests are negative [for cancer]. PET scans are negative," he said. "But out of an aggressive sense of caution, I'm going to go in for surgery on Monday and have it removed."

Snow underwent surgery to have the growth removed from his pelvic area, and doctors found that his cancer had metastasized, or spread, to his liver, said Snow's deputy, Dana Perino.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/27/cancer.snow/index.html

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:26 am

Yeah no matter how much he says he is going to fight it, metastasis is not a good sign, especially not when it's gone to the liver, since the lungs tend to be next.  Sad

Hopefully him and his family will get through it .
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:28 am

Elizabeth Edwards has a recurring cancer, and now Tony Snow. Cancer is no joke. Colon cancer runs in my family.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:39 am

It's too bad you said this:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
Cancer is no joke.

Because this:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
Colon cancer runs in my family.

is ALMOST irresistable.

I hope you beat your genes. While it's funny to joke about the suffering of others on an internet board, it's just not cool when you transition to people who you have some respect/admiration for in real life.

I feel REALLY sorry for Snow. First he gets stuck lying.... mmm errr working for W, now this. My best to him and his family.


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That being said I have just one question:

How did W move from his a$$ to his liver?
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:44 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 3):
Colon cancer runs in my family.
is ALMOST irresistable.

I don't get it, oh well

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
Colon cancer runs in my family.

That sucks. Good thing though that you know, so that you can get regular colonoscopies when you are younger.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:55 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 3):
I feel REALLY sorry for Snow. First he gets stuck lying.... mmm errr working for W, now this. My best to him and his family.

And there we go. Ted couldn't resist. Three posts into this and he has to turn it political.

Ted, given all the whining you do on this forum, do you ever think that Karma is a bitch?
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:07 am

Damn....I like this guy, too.

I hope he somehow beats this and pray for him and his family.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):
think

 no 

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):
Karma is a bitch

I KNOW Karma is a bitch. Sadly I note that your entire reply is devoid of well wishes for Mr. Snow, his family, or those who give his condition respect for what it is. Instead of taking the high ground your post seems to try to emulate you take a shot at me and my fairly valid observation. I wonder who Karma's going to get first?  Wink
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 6):
Damn....I like this guy, too.

I feel the same way.

I feel really bad for Tony Snow and his family, like Mdsh00 said this is not a good sign, and his prognosis can't be good.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 7):
I wonder who Karma's going to get first?

Since I suggested his post for deletions on the grounds of Personal Message, I'd think him.

Anyway, hope Snow comes out okay. Survival rates as stated are low, but you never know.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 7):
I wonder who Karma's going to get first?

I'm not going to play this game. Check your A.net instant message.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:25 am

Although I disagree with the personal political views of Tony Snow and his working at Fox News and now for President Bush, at 51 (about my age!) he is too young to suffer from from such a deadly disease and I do not wish him ill health.. He is entitled to his opinion in the USA even if I disagree with it. I hope he can revover and have a long and full life.
 
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:27 am

His prognosis is unfortunately very poor. Palliative treatments for metastatic colon cancer aren't very good, and liver metastasis means his life expectancy is short. It's really sad for him and his family.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:39 am

Wow, that's sad to hear. I may not agree with his politics, but I wish him a speedy recovery. It doesn't look good but hopefully he can beat the odds.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:31 am

Quoting Dvk (Reply 12):
liver metastasis means his life expectancy is short

Except if the metastasis is small enough they can isolate it and remove it from his liver. In that case the chances are higher.

So let's hope and pray.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:34 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 11):
he is too young to suffer from from such a deadly disease

No he's not. Anyone can get cancer. We've all got cancer cells floating around. It's just a matter of if, when, and how they decide to settle in and get down to business.

If we didn't die of old age, we'd all eventually die of cancer.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:35 am

Isn't the danger with liver cancer the fact that the liver is so "plugged into" the rest of the circulatory & lymphatic systems such that any cancer cells in the liver tend to disperse rapidly thoughout the body? Obviously, there are probably more technical terms of this.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:41 am

Quoting Frequentflyer (Reply 14):
Except if the metastasis is small enough they can isolate it and remove it from his liver. In that case the chances are higher.

This is not routinely done, because the presence of any visible liver metastasis is generally a good indicator that other micrometastases are present, as well. That's why chemotherapy is the predominant treatment.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:47 am

Quoting Dvk (Reply 17):
That's why chemotherapy is the predominant treatment.

I stand corrected, Thank you.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:53 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 16):
Isn't the danger with liver cancer the fact that the liver is so "plugged into" the rest of the circulatory & lymphatic systems such that any cancer cells in the liver tend to disperse rapidly thoughout the body? Obviously, there are probably more technical terms of this.

Pretty close. The liver is a pretty vascular organ. This is also a reason why colon cancer is so nasty, since all the blood in the gut goes through the liver (along with metastatic cells). Eventually from the liver it can then spread through the blood vessels and then take residence in the lungs. In Snow's case, it could already be happening. Either way, the more distant the metastasis, the worse and worse it gets.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:57 am

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
Elizabeth Edwards has a recurring cancer, and now Tony Snow. Cancer is no joke.

As a cancer survivor I agreed. Best of luck to him. Since his position as press secretary is extremely stressful, which would hinder his body ability to fight the cancer, I wonder if we will see his resignation soon?
 
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:03 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 11):
Although I disagree with the personal political views of Tony Snow and his working at Fox News and now for President Bush, at 51 (about my age!) he is too young to suffer from from such a deadly disease and I do not wish him ill health.. He is entitled to his opinion in the USA even if I disagree with it. I hope he can revover and have a long and full life.

I agree with the above, I'm not a fan of Tony Snow, but I do not wish him ill health. Colo-rectal cancer metastasis to the liver yields a very poor prognosis, but we do have to remember that 5 year survival percentages indicate that some people do survive that long. Best wishes to him and his family that he makes it and enjoys a good quality of life.
 
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:04 am

Quoting Frequentflyer (Reply 14):
Except if the metastasis is small enough they can isolate it and remove it from his liver.

Once metastasis is detected, it's too late. It's sort of like cockroaches. For every one you see, there are ten thousand you DON'T see.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:05 am

My prayers go out to him.

Is his wife going to drop her career and aspirations to take care of him?

Just curious.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:24 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 23):

Did she say she was going to do that?

I know many spouses do, especially with small children, put their career on hold.

I'm not aware of any announcements she made saying she wasn't going to have a career if Tony wasn't healthy though.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:28 am

Wow, this does not sound good. Liver cancer is very hard to overcome. Best wishes to Tony Snow and his family.
 
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:06 am

I'm not a fan of Mr. Snow, but that's something that nobody should have to deal with. Best wishes to his family.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:25 am

Obviously best wishes to Tony getting through it.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 23):
Is his wife going to drop her career and aspirations to take care of him?

Just curious.

Ahh...non-existent Boeing plane's snarky reference to the John Edwards thread. Good show.  sarcastic 
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:30 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 27):
Quoting B777-700 (Reply 23):
Is his wife going to drop her career and aspirations to take care of him?

Just curious.

Ahh...non-existent Boeing plane's snarky reference to the John Edwards thread. Good show.

Ah...the airline-reptile fantasy hybrid replies w/ a meaningless remark.

Hey, I said I was praying for him...I'm asking a question. I'd like an answer.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:34 am

I hope the best for Tony Snow...that said it is amazing all the little shots being take because he is a conservative and works for the current administration...would be fair to ask if mrs Edwards cancer returned because her husband is a bottom feeder who has made his living suing Doctors?
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 28):
Hey, I said I was praying for him...I'm asking a question. I'd like an answer.

Based on your thread response history I seriously doubt your intentions. I'll just leave it at that.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 28):
the airline-reptile fantasy hybrid

I'll give you that as pretty funny though.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:51 am

Best wishes to Mr. Snow. As another with cancer in his family lines (Snow's mother died from colon cancer, all of my grandparents had it, dad has leukemia), I wish nothing but the best for him and his family.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:42 am

Sad news, indeed.

He should quit and spend the rest of his time fighting this and making time with his family. As much as I like him, he needs to go do what is best for him and his family.

I heard him Friday morning on the Glenn Beck Show, 5 MINUTES before it was announced. He never once said anything about it. Sad, sad news.
I hope he beats it, not just because it is him, but because that means it's one in the plus column of that 7% that survive. Everytime someone beats cancer, it shows the remarkable gains we've made in the medical field. Same thing with Mrs. Edwards. She beats this breast/bone cancer, it's yet another reason to believe that the current state of the medical and pharmaceutical industries are doing their jobs as we need them.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:52 am

 Sad Really sad news. I'm praying for Mr. Tony Snow and his family. I hope he beats this  pray 

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 32):
I hope he beats it, not just because it is him, but because that means it's one in the plus column of that 7% that survive. Everytime someone beats cancer, it shows the remarkable gains we've made in the medical field. Same thing with Mrs. Edwards. She beats this breast/bone cancer, it's yet another reason to believe that the current state of the medical and pharmaceutical industries are doing their jobs as we need them.

 checkmark  I agree fully. Great post.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:40 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 28):
I'd like an answer.

You got one.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 24):
Did she say she was going to do that?

I know many spouses do, especially with small children, put their career on hold.

I'm not aware of any announcements she made saying she wasn't going to have a career if Tony wasn't healthy though

And you failed to answer mine?

Since your making the Edwards connection I'd like to know did Tony Snow's wife SAY she would put her career on hold or only accept advancement based on her husband's health?

John Edwards predicated his run on the health of his wife. Then he went back on it.

I'm not judging the Edwards' decision it is theirs to make.

But you are well beyond uncouth to bring up the comparison. It's apples to oranges. What little respect anyone had for you I think you just tossed away.

You're the only one to bring up the Edwards' as a political comparison rather than a medical one. Not the most partisan among us did that until you.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:57 am

I didn't know that Tony Snow had cancer to begin with ... I guess that shows how much I keep up with other people's lives.

Even though time is of the essence, I must say that I hope he and his family stays as optimistic as possible and to treasure every minute of life that he has left.

I remember listening to him fill in for Rush Limbaugh sometimes and I value and respect him and his opinions. My thoughts go to him and his family. It really truly breaks me inside as I have lost numerous friends to cancer and one very dear one to this particular form.

Two places one doesn't want cancer to strike, the liver and the spine.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:00 pm

I don't know what'e eating you Ted. Even if you don't think much of the guy he's going to go through a lot of hell here and soon, I hope to hell you never have liver cancer, because my old man died of it and it whipped his ass. So you think karma's a bitch?

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:08 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
Elizabeth Edwards has a recurring cancer, and now Tony Snow. Cancer is no joke. Colon cancer runs in my family.

My father-in-law was diagnosed with rectal cancer at 53, and eventually, it spread just about everywhere, and he died at 56 years of age-only 10 years older than I am now. He was a good man, and it shows just how, despite all the advances made in cancer research, terrible cancer still is.

I wish Mr. Snow all the best, for him, his family and his friends. One of the only good things that may come out of the cancer battles for Mr. Snow and Mrs. Edwards, is to raise the awareness that in no way have we whipped this scourge, and we have a long, long way to go.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:29 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 37):
My father-in-law was diagnosed with rectal cancer at 53, and eventually, it spread just about everywhere, and he died at 56 years of age-only 10 years older than I am now. He was a good man, and it shows just how, despite all the advances made in cancer research, terrible cancer still is.

That's three years younger than me when he went, and I'm sorry to hear about it.

I don't care what your politics are-you just don't point at a man who's in the fight of his life, he'll most likely lose it in a painful and debilitating way, and make offensive comments. It's disgraceful.

Matter of fact my old boss has inoperable brain cancer and he's in the fight of his life and he's ten years younger than me. Even though he fired me, I still stayed in touch and two weeks after i had lunch with him here he went into seizures that were so violent he broke both his arms. My aunt died at 54 from ovarian cancer and it whipped her ass too. My mother in law died of colon cancer a few years back and it was a hard thing to live through, every Friday afternoon driving to Detroit and getting on People Express to Newark to see her and help out my brother in law who had to handle the whole thing himself. She was a good lady and it broke my wife's heart.

So no. I may be a fucked up person in a lot of ways but that's one thing I'll never do is throw stones at people who are in the last months of their lives in a losing battle. I'll leave that to others.

I think perhaps that a real sense of one's own frailty and mortality may not be the worst thing that can happen to people-it certainly changed Lee Atwater's attitude about a lot of things. That's a personal observation.

So Tony, vaya con Dios. I'll see you on The Other Side.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:25 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 38):
every Friday afternoon driving to Detroit and getting on People Express to Newark to see her and help out my brother in law who had to handle the whole thing himself. She was a good lady and it broke my wife's heart.

That my friend was an amazing thing for you to do. Going through a parental illness by yourself is tremendously hard. For you to give up your weekends was the ultimate in unselfishness and compassion.

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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:07 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 30):
I'll give you that as pretty funny though.

Yeah, I have my moments.  Wink

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
And you failed to answer mine?



Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
Since your making the Edwards connection I'd like to know did Tony Snow's wife SAY she would put her career on hold or only accept advancement based on her husband's health?

I don't know UAL, that's the same question I'm asking.

Answering a question with another question is not an answer.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
John Edwards predicated his run on the health of his wife. Then he went back on it.

Incorrect that he went back on anything. Her prognosis is good. Reports I've read that are with the standard treatment, she can live for decades.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
It's apples to oranges.

No it's not. She's 'fair game'.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
You're the only one to bring up the Edwards' as a political comparison rather than a medical one. Not the most partisan among us did that until you.

And the same can be said of your kind in the Edwards thread. Save it.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:07 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 40):
Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
Since your making the Edwards connection I'd like to know did Tony Snow's wife SAY she would put her career on hold or only accept advancement based on her husband's health?

I don't know UAL, that's the same question I'm asking

No it is an answer. We know what Edwards said before the latest medical exam. We know that he said his run was based on his wife's remission and remaining in good health.

You asked this:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 23):
Is his wife going to drop her career and aspirations to take care of him?

Implying a connection between Edwards and Tony Snow's wife. I asked you if she made any statements like Edwards did before this latest medical crisis. typically you avoided the question. As you always do when the answer isn't to your political point.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 40):
And the same can be said of your kind in the Edwards thread. Save it.

You've got some nerve.

Edwards' himself said it was right to question him on the issue. And that was brought up in the thread. Which you convienently ignore.

Just as you ignore that there is a big difference between the wife of a public servent and a potential FIRST LADY. Just like there is a big difference in working at a press secretary job and campaigning for president.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 40):
Incorrect that he went back on anything.

Again twisting what I said. He said himself that he felt it was safe to run because his wife's cancer was in remition and that his decision was based on her health. When her cancer returned it was ok to speculate that he would quit. When he did not it came as a surprise. As I made clear it is their decision but in the family of a politician nothing is ever truly private everything has its political ramifications.

Your sneeringly coy question about Tony Snow's wife shows just what kind of bitter partisan you are. Your defense of your statements only worsens that perseption. You're a really crass person B777-700.

Any respect the liberal contingent here on airliners had for you has probably been been pissed away at this point. Cancer isn't political, and yet you just can't help yourself because you hate so much. You really are to be pitied.

Best to Mrs. Edwards and Tony Snow. I've had grandarents succum to Asbestosis and regular lung cancer. Fortunately other cancers seem to be rarer in my family. (knock-knock) I understadn that colon cancer is a particularly nasty cancer. It truly is a shame when anyone gets an illness like this.

The only hope with people in high profile positions is that it might raise awareness and save some other lives.
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RE: Tony Snow Has Metastatic Liver Cancer

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
No it is an answer.

No, it is not. You responded with a question.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
I asked you if she made any statements like Edwards did before this latest medical crisis.

That's what I'm asking. What is her decision? She should make a decision, right? From what I learned in the last thread, if your spouse is diagnosed with cancer, the SOP is to drop everything your doing to take care of him / her.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
typically you avoided the question. As you always do when the answer isn't to your political point.

Which is what you're doing now.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
Edwards' himself said it was right to question him on the issue. And that was brought up in the thread. Which you convienently ignore.

Sure, and he's correct. And you're kidding yourself if he didn't fully expect it, and hell, so did I. The neocons are so predictable that instantly when I read that he was staying in the race, I knew the selfish accusations would be thrown his way. And like Pavlov's dogs, they couldn't resist. That's what he's acknowledging. I admire him for taking the high road.

But that was never my point. As I've said all along, anyone has a right to their opinion. However, they should have the responsibility to not express it when it's not appropriate. If Edwards is "fair game" so is Mrs Snow. And no, I'm sorry, there's no difference. Tony Snow is a public figure. Mrs Snow should drop everything to take care of her husband, or, in my opinion, she's a self centered bitch.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
Quoting B777-700 (Reply 40):
Incorrect that he went back on anything.

Again twisting what I said.

Um, no...here it is again:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 34):
John Edwards predicated his run on the health of his wife. Then he went back on it.

I would like to point out that even tho I stated that John and Elizabeth made this decision based on her prognosis, which is good, you conveniently overlooked it.

They made a decision based on her health. He did exactly what he said he'd do.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
Your sneeringly coy question about Tony Snow's wife shows just what kind of bitter partisan you are. Your defense of your statements only worsens that perseption. You're a really crass person B777-700.

Right UAL, again, save it. You no nothing about me or my political beliefs. Just by saying the above, you're falling into your own trap.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
Any respect the liberal contingent here on airliners had for you has probably been been pissed away at this point.

Why would they support someone who isn't liberal?

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
Cancer isn't political, and yet you just can't help yourself because you hate so much. You really are to be pitied

I just looked thru the Edwards post and didn't see you saying this directed towards Pope or Halls.  Yeah sure

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 41):
The only hope with people in high profile positions is that it might raise awareness and save some other lives.

Well, there's something we agree on.  Smile
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