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Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:00 am

Surprised this hasn't been raised/discussed here yet....

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Nationally syndicated conservative radio talk host Rush Limbaugh has been nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize by Landmark Legal Foundation-the leading conservative public interest law firm in the country

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7006341100

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What say you types?
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:06 am

I love it!

I think we should also nominate him for a Pulitzer, America's top model, and a Razzie.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:06 am



Just a prediction...
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:06 am

It was done as a parody right after Al Gore was nominate for the same award just to show that anyone can be nominated.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:11 am

I think Ann Coulter should be nominated too.

For showing the world the dangers of toxic chemicals like peroxide bleaches.

I thought Al Gore already won the Nobel for - Mathematics - you know, for inventing the mathematical basis of the internet and all that.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:12 am

Wrong category. It should be Nobel Prize for Chemistry: Oxycodone (C18H21NO4) efficacy.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:16 am

Very funny, but you're two days too late.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:38 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
Very funny, but you're two days too late.

Yeah, April Fool's Day was Sunday..
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:18 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 4):
I thought Al Gore already won the Nobel for - Mathematics - you know, for inventing the mathematical basis of the internet and all that.

No, no, no. He only [i[took the initiative[/i] in creating the Internet. What he invented was Mathematics itself. You thought they called it an al-gore-ithm (algorithm) for nothin'???  bouncy 

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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:29 am

Quoting DrDeke (Reply 8):
You thought they called it an al-gore-ithm (algorithm) for nothin'???

You know, that one's not too bad!  biggrin 

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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:38 am

He did invent that fun party game where you have to dance under that pole to the calypso music Smile
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:54 am

As Pope noted Rush was nominated more than a month ago, right after Al Gore got his nomination.

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 10):

I thought Al Gore invented a sleep aid.

No... seriously he IS trying to put his audience to sleep when he speaks right? I mean why else would anyone voluntarily subject themselves to that much boredom?
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:58 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 11):
As Pope noted Rush was nominated more than a month ago, right after Al Gore got his nomination.

Well, the late unlamented Stanley "Tookie" Williams was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize too...
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:57 am

Anyone can be nominated, but few are really qualified. Rush to me is about anything but 'peace' with the retoric he spews - including his hate of anybody to the left of Attilla the Hun (or himself).
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 12):
Well, the late unlamented Stanley "Tookie" Williams was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize too...

Yes. Very true. But I think your making Rush's point. Al Gore was running around after the nomination like it was some big deal. An honor just to be nominated.

I could be nominated. I could be the walrus. (Ferris Bueller reference)
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
Very funny, but you're two days too late.

...if you're referring to me, this is no April Fool's joke, considering his nomination happened two months ago.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:18 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 13):
Anyone can be nominated, but few are really qualified. Rush to me is about anything but 'peace' with the retoric he spews - including his hate of anybody to the left of Attilla the Hun (or himself).

And he deserves to be nominated just as much as Al Gore, who has been nominated for his work on Global Warming. Now, please, someone with a straight face tell me what does showing a slide show about an unproven theory while flying all over the globe in a private jet and living in energy sucking mansions have to do with Peace? Please. Someone link the two for me...
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 13):
Rush to me is about anything but 'peace' with the retoric he spews - including his hate of anybody to the left of Attilla the Hun (or himself).

What specifically has he said? Can you quote him?

Please enlighten me. I'm genuinely curious.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:46 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 11):
I thought Al Gore invented a sleep aid.

 rotfl  Now that's pretty damned funny.

I thought he WAS the sleep aid, UAL?  Big grin
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 18):
I thought he WAS the sleep aid, UAL?

Well yeah that's what I meant!  Wink
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:40 am

George W. Bush was nominated as well by some lunatic a while ago. So why not Rush Limbaugh?  crazy 

Fortunately the selection committee has so far had better sense than to make a joke of it.
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
What say you types?

I'd love for LLF to explain how their nominee's unwavering support (or perhaps more accurately, unwavering enthusiasm) for an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation that's killed thousands upon thousands of people is consistent with the ideals of pacifism. Truly, truly disgusting.
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:44 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 17):
What specifically has he said? Can you quote him?

Please enlighten me. I'm genuinely curious.

Obviously, the following are some of his worse ones, but they might give you some insight.
"Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population.
Who the hell cares." -Rush Limbaugh

"And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs,
using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good
because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if
people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought
to be accused and they ought to be convicted and
they ought to be sent up." - ironic, considering his well-known OxyContin habit

"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive
women easier access to the mainstream of society."

Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no different than what
happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going
to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper
our military effort, and then we are going to really
hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these
people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about
people having a good time, these people, you ever heard
of emotional release? You of heard of need to blow some
steam off?
Rush's Radio Show 5-4-4

"If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people--
I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely
no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and
unskilled Mexicans do that work."
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:46 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 20):
George W. Bush was nominated as well by some lunatic a while ago. So why not Rush Limbaugh?

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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:55 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):

You know, I'm not fan of Senor Windbag... but you're going to have to come up with something better than that. It took me about ten seconds on google to confirm that's just a copy and paste from an anti Rush e-mail circular. It's verbatim on a dozen forums. Now, Senor Windbag has had twenty plus years of broadcasting. I'm not surprised at all that you can out of context that to make some pretty asinine comments.

Can you give us some in context things? I happen to know for a fact that he puts the entire transcripts of his shows verbatim on his web site for public viewing.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:37 pm

I don't need context to understand what those quotes mean. In other words - can you come up with a context that would make those quotes mean anything else than what they do by themselves? Take a look at Wikiquotes if you want some more of his gems.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:11 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 25):
In other words - can you come up with a context that would make those quotes mean anything else than what they do by themselves?

Yes, quite easily.

A large portion of the show consists of satire comedy and spoofs. He is also known for making arguments through expansion of absurdity. That is, he doesn't believe what he says but uses it to prove a point. Any of those quotes that come from satire, spoofs, or examples of expanded absurdity don't accurately reflect his point of view and are dishonest to use to characterize him.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:56 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 20):
Fortunately the selection committee has so far had better sense than to make a joke of it.

Are you sure???

 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:05 pm

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 27):
Quoting Klaus (Reply 20):
Fortunately the selection committee has so far had better sense than to make a joke of it.

Are you sure???

Unfortunately, most awards given nowadays have more of a political tone to them than any actual basis in reality for such awards. Even the Oscars, where the time that 'Shakespeare in Love' beat out 'Saving Private Ryan' was the last time I watched that show.

Rush's nomination shows this perfectly, anyone can be nominated and win, witness Carter and Arafat.
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:18 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 21):
illegal invasion of a sovereign nation that's killed thousands upon thousands of people is consistent with the ideals of pacifism. Truly, truly disgusting.

Who's is this? I haven't heard of any illegal invasions.

Oh Rush, is a supporter of the US in World War II when we invaded Europe? Nazi Germany was a sovereign nation. Is that what your talking about?

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):

I see nothing that disqualifies him and I will show you.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):
Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population.
Who the hell cares." -Rush Limbaugh

This is a political statement. Nothing to do with peace. And illustrated the out-sized representation in public discourse of small groups.

For instance the war in Iraq is supported by less than half the US population according to polls. But people complain that those that support the war have too much of a voice.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):
"And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs,
using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good
because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if
people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought
to be accused and they ought to be convicted and
they ought to be sent up." - ironic, considering his well-known OxyContin habit

There is a statement about the law. He doesn't say anything about vigilantism. Or anything violent to users or pushers. It's simply about the law.

It also speaks volumes about you bias to even bring it up, since it has nothing to do with the peace prize, and everything to do with what you see has a hypocrisy.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):
"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive
women easier access to the mainstream of society."

Again, what has this have to do with his ineligibility for the Peace Prize? He's an entertainer making people laugh. Sacha Baron Cohen does similar stuff to make a point. What's the difference? That's a rhetorical question I know what you'd say the difference is.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):
Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no different than what
happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going
to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper
our military effort, and then we are going to really
hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these
people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about
people having a good time, these people, you ever heard
of emotional release? You of heard of need to blow some
steam off?
Rush's Radio Show 5-4-4

What is this even in reference to?

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 22):
"If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people--
I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely
no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and
unskilled Mexicans do that work."

Again nothing to do with peace and in fact is a twisting of what he means when he says this. What Rush meant by this in context was a fear of having a permanent unskilled underclass made up of Mexicans. He doesn't want and underclass. But your selective use of his words implies that he does.

I just find it amusing that so many criticize without actually listening to what they are being critical of.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 13):
Rush to me is about anything but 'peace' with the retoric he spews - including his hate of anybody to the left of Attilla the Hun (or himself).

This is what I wanted clarified. You gave me a list that singularly failed to back up this claim. I see no hate in any of those quotes. Nor is there anything about waging war on anyone.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:24 pm

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 14):
I could be nominated. I could be the walrus.

Well, you could be the egg man too
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:03 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 21):
illegal invasion

...if you're referring to the Iraq invasion, please cite exactly what and whose law(s) were broken.

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 21):
pacifism

Pacifism and Peace Advocacy can easily be mutually exclusive mon ami.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:54 am

Nominating Rush Limbaugh for the Nobel Peace Prize is like Nominating Hitler for it, IMO. Its a disgrace to the award. Its offensive to the rest of the world. His radio show makes my blood turn curdle, i'll probably die of deep vein thrombosis if I listen too it too much. I have never heard of someone who is so hypocritical. Ironic that he is so judgmental of others. That man is a bigoted, pompous, arrogant, sorry excuse for a human being. And, he's addicted to painkillers.....

....Why dont we nominate Paris Hilton for the nobel peace prize. She did some great work with high end fashion and giving tiny chihuahuas shelter in 600 dollar juicy couture shoulder bags.  Yeah sure  Yeah sure  Yeah sure  no   no   yuck   yuck   thumbsdown   thumbsdown 

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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:01 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 31):
...if you're referring to the Iraq invasion, please cite exactly what and whose law(s) were broken.

International Law under the United Nations founding charter that the United States signed and is therefore bound to. There's endless amounts of material relating to this that a simple Google search will turn up.

Of course, if you're in the camp that believes U.S. policy objectives supercede international law, kindly disregard.
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:10 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 33):
Of course, if you're in the camp that believes U.S. policy objectives supercede international law, kindly disregard.

I think that if we signed something, we should keep our word. However, as a citizen of the US, I also believe that the first loyalty is always to my country, and in that it always above international law. There are probably a lot of people who agree with me. (At least I hope.)
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:13 pm

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 34):
However, as a citizen of the US, I also believe that the first loyalty is always to my country, and in that it always above international law. There are probably a lot of people who agree with me.

Nationality over humanity then? No thanks.
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:22 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 35):

Nationality over humanity then? No thanks.

I never said that?  Confused

You're thinking about a specific instance. I said I was for supporting my country before others and having honor when it comes to America's promises...there can be humanity here first before other places.
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:29 pm

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 29):
What is this even in reference to?

Sorry, the header for that got cut off. That was his response to the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 29):
He's an entertainer making people laugh.

Funny...Keith Olbermann always refers to him as "comedian Rush Limbaugh." Not so sure that's what he's going for, though.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 29):
I see nothing that disqualifies him and I will show you.

I wasn't trying to show that he was ineligible for the Peace Prize. You asked what sort of stuff Limbaugh had said. I think the quotes say a lot about his personality.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 26):
That is, he doesn't believe what he says but uses it to prove a point.

I sometimes think Ann Coulter does the same, but that doesn't make her any less of a despicable human being. The consistently far-right, hypocritical, borderline racist statements he makes let me know that in my book he is not a good person.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:30 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 31):
please cite exactly what and whose law(s) were broken.



Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 33):

International Law under the United Nations founding charter that the United States signed

hmm, care to try that again?
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:38 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 38):
hmm, care to try that again?

U.N. Charter: Chapter 1, Article 2, Number 4

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Or is the U.S. not bound to a charter that it signed?
 
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:43 pm

Quoting AA777 (Reply 32):
Nominating Rush Limbaugh for the Nobel Peace Prize is like Nominating Hitler for it, IMO.

In what way is Rush Limbaugh comparable to Hitler in your opinion?

Has he advocated the genocide of a race and religion?
Has he advocated the government take over of all aspects of society?
Has he advocated total world domination?

Please as someone who has spent a semester learning about National Socialism and what they did to Germany I'd be curious to see the comparison.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 37):
You asked what sort of stuff Limbaugh had said. I think the quotes say a lot about his personality.

Five quotes don't tell you a thing about anyone's personality. What would everyone think of you if we could take five quotes out of your life, any five quotes. I bet we could find some that could make you look pretty bad.

Be that as it may, this was the question:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 13):
Rush to me is about anything but 'peace' with the retoric he spews - including his hate of anybody to the left of Attilla the Hun (or himself).

It wasn't asked of you but since LTBEWR didn't even have the guts to back up his own assertion you picked up and ran with the ball.

So I want to see what rhetoric of Rush's is hateful and war mongering.

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 39):

So I guess then the UN isn't bound by its own resolutions?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/08/national/main528675.shtml

"Recognizing the threat Iraq's noncompliance with council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security, "

Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,

Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,

1. Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq's failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991);

This is just one of the Resolutions (passed unanimously by the way) that gives the UN and US the authority to end the cease fire that stopped the First Gulf war if Saddam Hussein didn't comply with the UN resolutions.

He did not. As the resolution also makes clear. Saddam Hussein was in material breach of his obligations under the cease fire. Therefore the second Invasion of Iraq was legal under UN resolutions. Don't even try to re-write history Gunsontheroof.

And I haven't even had my morning coffee yet.
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:29 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 39):
Or is the U.S. not bound to a charter that it signed?



Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 40):
So I guess then the UN isn't bound by its own resolutions?

Dang! ...ya beat me to it  Sad Big grin
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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:45 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 33):
International Law under the United Nations founding charter that the United States signed and is therefore bound to. There's endless amounts of material relating to this that a simple Google search will turn up.

Of course, if you're in the camp that believes U.S. policy objectives supercede international law, kindly disregard.



Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 39):
U.N. Charter: Chapter 1, Article 2, Number 4

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Or is the U.S. not bound to a charter that it signed?

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Well let's see, as illustrated in Reid v. Covert (354 US 1, 17 (1957) the Supreme Court “has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.” Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1, 17 (1957). The Fifth Circuit has similarly recognized that “the treaty-making power does not extend so far as to authorize what the constitution forbids.” Amaya v. Stanolind Oil & Gas Co., 158 F.2d 554, 556 (5th Cir. 1947), quoting De Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258, 267 (1890); see also Hanson v. Town of Flower Mound, 679 F.2d 497, 503 n.11 (5th Cir. 1982), quoting Reid, 354 U.S. at 18 (“It would be completely anomalous to say that a treaty need not comply with the Constitution….”).

The President acts as commander in chief under our Constitution. As a result his decision to take us to battle was Constitutional. Therefore a Constitutional act cannot, as a result of a treaty obligations, become illegal. So unless and until you get appointed to the US Supreme Court, this is status of the law in the US.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:13 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 33):
International Law under the United Nations founding charter that the United States signed and is therefore bound to. There's endless amounts of material relating to this that a simple Google search will turn up.

Of course, if you're in the camp that believes U.S. policy objectives supercede international law, kindly disregard.

Funny how liberals overlook the fact that Clinton ignored the UN just like Bush....how ironic.

Funny thing is, it was the UN, version 1, in 1920 that allowed France and the UK to draw the borders of Iraq regardless of the fact that it put 3 mortal enemies within them after Iraq sided with Germany in WWI and the UK invaded Bagdad. This led to the 1st Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in the late thirties and thier attack on Israel in 1948. Anyone notice a pattern here? Ignoring Iraq keeps biting the west in their ass, so how are the current events even a slight surprise?

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 39):
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Or is the U.S. not bound to a charter that it signed?

We acted within the grounds of the UN resolutions and the cease fire.

I find it funny that just because people hate the current President, they feel the need to invent the mythical world government that exist only in their dreams.
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