pilotdude09
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Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:50 am

Just looking and i didnt find anything anyone had posted.

Bloody discrace that these kids went on basically what was a mass suicide.

So who went to the dawn parades and who didnt and what did you do to remember the ANZACS. For those who dont know what ANZAC is its: Australian [and] New Zealand Army Corps, they fought in WWI and WWII together.

Lest we forget.
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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:02 pm

Quoting Pilotdude09 (Thread starter):
So who went to the dawn parades and who didnt and what did you do to remember the ANZACS.

The family watched the Sydney march on television. The weather was rubbish, but what are you going to do?

I also explained the significance of the day to my kids again. I am often bemused by the explanations provided on television - and quite often find them either so inaccurate as to be offensive or so dripping with political bias that I switch off.

Anzac day is the day when we remember those who fought at Gallipoli. They weren't fighting for our country, or for a cause worth their collective deaths. We remember the way they served with distinction, and the way they showed unending compassion to each other. They stood up as Australians and New Zealanders and composed themselves gallantly in an impossible situation.

Lest we forget.

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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:36 pm

I thought it was a day set aside purely to watch Essendon play Carlton?

I always pause for a bit of reflection. Even though there are very few, (any?) Gallipolli veterans left, the day seems to grow in it's significance for Aussies & Kiwis. Especially with other conflicts flaring up around the world.
 
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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:43 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 1):
and quite often find them either so inaccurate as to be offensive or so dripping with political bias that I switch off.

Channel 7 springs to mind when you say this

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 2):
(any?) Gallipolli veterans left,

Only 1 left if I'm not mistaken and several more from WW2

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 2):
Essendon play Carlton?

Carlton?? Its Essondon v Collingwood on ANZAC Day
 
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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:12 pm

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 3):
Carlton?? Its Essondon v Collingwood on ANZAC Day

That means absolutely nothing to us here in New South Wales.

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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:59 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 1):
The weather was rubbish, but what are you going to do?

I worked, they only had a small ceremony in this town, which is usually just a army thing. I used to go to Dawn parades every year for 12 years and havent been to one in 4 years.

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 4):
That means absolutely nothing to us here in New South Wales.

WA pisses me off so much! AFL, AFL, AFL and no one even knows who the Western Force is!! I love League and Union and the only way you can watch it is on Foxtel. AFL is just plain weird.

Also, for those interested there is a thing on the ABC tonight at 8.30 its with Andrew Denton, he goes to Gallipoli.
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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:36 pm

My local club, is the North Sydney ANZAC Memorial club so it may come as no surprise to know they do have a significant commemoration ceremony, they hold it on the Sunday prior to ANZAC day so members can march with their units in the official march.
In addition to the service and the wreath laying there is always a guest speaker, this year it was a Lt Cmdr from the RNZN.
Her speech was quite something despite the young ladies obvious nervousness at speaking in front of an audience.
She spoke of her role on a NZ destroyer supporting actions in East Timor in 1999, her role in Afghanistan in a reconstruction unit, sometimes travelling to remote villages by horseback, the most moving moment by her accounts was in Bosnia, when on Anzac day she and her NZ colleagues joined the Australians on duty there to commemorate ANZAC day and were somewhat surprised to be joined by a Turkish officer serving with a US unit in the area that thought it the right thing to do to pass that time of remembrance with Aussies and Kiwis.
I spent some time speaking to a distinguished gentleman wearing a chest full of medals, and I mean a chest full from his right shoulder to his left. On is right were his fathers medals beginning with the Boer war(+ 4 clasps) onto Inda and WWI &II and his own medals from campaigns in WWII, Korea and Malaya in the 1950's.

One can only admire and be thankful for what these Men & women have done on behalf of their countries.

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RE: Anzac Day

Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:20 pm

One can only admire the bravery and collective will of a fighting force that was put in impossible circumstances. A big hats off to the ANZACs from Canada. Some of my buddies from my Aussie Rules team and I were having a chat about this and I was amazed at how connected they still feel to this all, especially when you consider they are essentially drunken louts most of the time.

I fear however, that history may have not taught the world sufficiently. I don't want to hijack this thread but looking around the globe there are a number of conflicts in which young men (and women) have been tasked with fighting battles that just can not be won. Cheers to the ANZACs!

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RE: Anzac Day

Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:12 am

I am an American, but realize that Anzac day is very important to your countries. When I was in Canberra in July 1989, I visited the National Memorial which lists all Australians who died in wars and military actions. I also saw the memorial of all of NZ's war dead at the National Museum in Auckland (June 1994). Almost every town and village I drove through in both countries had some kind of Anzac memorial. Some of us realize that Anzac day represents the huge losses of honorable soldiers of both Australia and NZ, in support of the UK during WWI, of one of the most obscene battles of that war. Then there were huge losses of soldiers in WWII by Anzac solders, including the inhumane treatment as prisoners of war by the Japanese in WWII, that shouldn't be forgotten either. In the USA, we acknowledge the losses and contributions of our solders in war as a National Holiday on the last Monday in May with ceremonies and parades that day.
 
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RE: Anzac Day

Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:29 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 8):
am an American, but realize that Anzac day is very important to your countries. When I was in Canberra in July 1989, I visited the National Memorial which lists all Australians who died in wars and military actions. I also saw the memorial of all of NZ's war dead at the National Museum in Auckland (June 1994). Almost every town and village I drove through in both countries had some kind of Anzac memorial. Some of us realize that Anzac day represents the huge losses of honorable soldiers of both Australia and NZ, in support of the UK during WWI, of one of the most obscene battles of that war. Then there were huge losses of soldiers in WWII by Anzac solders, including the inhumane treatment as prisoners of war by the Japanese in WWII, that shouldn't be forgotten either. In the USA, we acknowledge the losses and contributions of our solders in war as a National Holiday on the last Monday in May with ceremonies and parades that day.

Im pretty every town in both NZ and Australia would have a memorial. Alot of towns lost half of their populations during the wars.

The War Memorial in Canberra is a great exhibit and really sad to see the thousands and thousands of names on the wall. Same with the National Museum in Auckland.

I guess our memorials are like USS Arizona memorials in every town. Makes you feel proud to be able to live in a great country just ashame about all the arabs etc going and blowing them selves up and killing others while they are at it. The Anzacs sure as hell didnt loose their lives for that crap.
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RE: Anzac Day

Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:02 pm

its almost as an important day as the game played on it...only Australia could commemorate the day by singing a song about an itinerant worker who killed himself to avoid arrest, we mark the day by naming a biscuit after it and celebrate the fact that the Brits sold us up shit creek in 1915.

and the best part is the fact that ANZAC day is still being marked on the 28th april before AFL matches commence...  yawn 
 
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RE: Anzac Day

Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:43 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
and celebrate the fact that the Brits sold us up shit creek in 1915.

I don't think that is quite an accurate summation, we.. Australians and New Zealanders Commemorate not celebrate those lost in battles both before and after April 25 1915.
Whilst the "colonial" forces were again used as cannon fodder by our Imperial overlords after Gallipoli I don't think that ever occured with A/ the same naivete that was shown in 1915 or B/ the same callous contempt shown by the British high command. Increasingly as the 20th century moved on Australia and NZ displayed minds of their own and an increasing independence from Britain... Gallipoli I feel was the turning point in that process.
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