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Black And White Televisions.

Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:08 pm

Just bought my TV licence today, and I see there is still a option to buy one if you have a black and white tv.

In this day and age of Digital Television, Cell Phones, Wireless Internet and God alone knows what else besides, who the bloody hell would have a black and white tv??
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RE: Black And White Televisions.

Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:13 pm

Try buying a black and white TV license and see what happens. I wonder if anyone actually reads the applications  Smile

Seriously, not even my grandma had a black and white TV 20 years ago...
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Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:14 pm

B/W Tv is Excellent for Security monitoring.The Images are more defined  Smile
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Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:12 am

Tick the monochrome option and then see if the inspector comes to your house to check.
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RE: Black And White Televisions.

Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:15 am

A TV license ... ? Enlighten me, please  bouncy 
 
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RE: Black And White Televisions.

Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:18 am

Quoting Trav110 (Reply 4):
A TV license ... ? Enlighten me, please

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence

We had a black and white tv up until 1987. It was probably a 13" model. We only got color as a result of getting a video camera, and wanting to see what it really looked like.
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Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 1):
not even my grandma had a black and white TV 20 years ago...

in the late 50ies and throughout the 60ies, everything was black/white, and then in the early 70ies, ARD, ZDF, TVDRS started gradually into the colours. At first it just was some selected films, with the news still b/w, but at the end of the 70ies it was all in colours !
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:32 pm

We had one, I think it was purchase in the 70's or 80's, like a back-up from our then Zenith 20" color. I think it was a GE 19" CRT with UHF/VHF dials to rotate to change the channel, they were positioned vertically with the top one from channel 2-13, and bottom 14-69. No A/V hook ups in the back and I remember we sold it in '93, still worked. Our current Sony 20" Trinitron is now 13yrs old and has a heavy red shade from wear, I believe.
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:36 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
who the bloody hell would have a black and white tv??

Who wouldn't?

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Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:37 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
Just bought my TV licence today

How much did it cost?
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:09 pm

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 1):
not even my grandma had a black and white TV 20 years ago...

The only B&W tv I can remember growing up belonged to my grandmother. It was an old Zenith console model, probably a 25". I am not really sure how old it was, but probably dated back to the mid to late 60s, it even featured (though it didn't work by the time I came around) a Zenith Space Command remote control. IIRC it died around 1987-88. And my dad pulled the old tube out of console and put a new 19" color TV from Sears in it.
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:19 pm

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 10):
a Zenith Space Command remote control.

Hey we bought one of those in 1981. I never forget watching the Space Shuttle takeoff in 1981 on our brand new wireless remote control TV.
Remember the black box on screen display in the lower right hand corner?

My oldest sister was spoiled because she had her own black & white TV in her bed room but we'd still fight over the color TV.

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 8):
Who wouldn't?

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I'd have to disagree. I love 8track tapes but black & white TVs are lame.
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:45 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
In this day and age of Digital Television, Cell Phones, Wireless Internet and God alone knows what else besides, who the bloody hell would have a black and white tv??

When are you guys in the UK going to drop your analog TV's? Germany is in the middle of doing it, the US will do it Feb. 2009. So Everybodys TV will need a Digital to analog converter or a new TV.
 
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Tue May 01, 2007 12:00 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 12):
When are you guys in the UK going to drop your analog TV's? Germany is in the middle of doing it, the US will do it Feb. 2009. So Everybodys TV will need a Digital to analog converter or a new TV.

What are you talking about? We've had digital TV for years. The switch off of analogue starts next year. The UK has been the lead nation for of digital TV, same as the US was for HD.
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Tue May 01, 2007 12:17 am

What I don't like about this notion is that it gives the government the exact location of every radio and television set and identifies it to a particular person and address.

This probably explains why the Nazis found it so easy to round up and destroy radio sets capable of receiving foreign broadcasts in occupied Europe-although the technology of building a working radio that can receive foreign transmissions is not too difficult to master.

One of my pals' father was a B17 copilot who spent a few years as a POW in Europe. He was shot down over Austria and hurt badly. He was not able to walk for eight months, and he was well treated by the Austrians. He still speaks kindly of the people who nursed him back to health.

When he was sent to a prison camp in Germany life got a lot harder. The camp had a radio that one person had built, and it could be rapidly disassembled and hidden from view. So news got around, and many were the razees and flying raids in attempts to locate the radio, which the Germans never were able to do.
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Tue May 01, 2007 1:03 am

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 14):
What I don't like about this notion is that it gives the government the exact location of every radio and television set and identifies it to a particular person and address.

This probably explains why the Nazis found it so easy to round up and destroy radio sets capable of receiving foreign broadcasts in occupied Europe

I can't imagine the government knowing I own a radio or TV. I know they assume I do, but they don't for sure. Rounding up radios and TV would be easy since everyone who has one is licensed to own them. Many might say that the chances of the government rounding them up is slim, but people back in 1939 probably thought that the government rounding up radios was slim too.

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
Just bought my TV licence today

Do you have to buy one for each TV? How many TVs can you have? Do you have to go and get the license and then go and buy the TV? This sounds a lot like buying a hand gun in many US states.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
I'd have to disagree. I love 8track tapes but black & white TVs are lame.

I agree with Superfly, but I do have one cool black & white TV. It is a nine inch Zenith from 1976 and has the Declaration of Independence on the side. It is the "Spirit of 76" model.
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Tue May 01, 2007 1:08 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Do you have to buy one for each TV? How many TVs can you have? Do you have to go and get the license and then go and buy the TV? This sounds a lot like buying a hand gun in many US states.

I believe it is done per property. So you buy one for your home and can have as many TV's as you want/

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Tue May 01, 2007 2:10 am

I don't think it's a big deal. We got "pledge breaks" they got "TV tax". UK should probably drop it now as the bureacracy probably costs more than they are saving, they should switch to funding out of their general taxes, switch to commercials or do the dreaded "pledge break".
 
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Tue May 01, 2007 2:15 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Many might say that the chances of the government rounding them up is slim, but people back in 1939 probably thought that the government rounding up radios was slim too.

Easy there, it's all bureaucracy and we know how effective that is.  Wink Even thought the German "authority" spying on citizens trying to find out if they have an unlicensed TV set (GEZ) is probably better than all of our intelligence services combined, you can still very well hide a TV from them. They're just as stupid as they are pesky, and they have e.g. no right to enter your home against your will.

Anyway, we had a b/w TV at home until, say, the early 90s. It was down in our guest room in the basement, but some day long forgotten my father told us it had finally gone south... almost a pity considering how long it kept working, but there's still that old radio from the 1930s or so right in the same room. It's a funny sight, that ancient radio with the DVB-S receiver right on top of it. Big grin
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Tue May 01, 2007 2:16 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 17):
they should switch to funding out of their general taxes

Definitely not. The whole point of the licence fee is that it isn't within the whim of government to chop the funding because they don't like the BBC running a critical story. That's why it's independent. Over the longer term, it may come to the point where a licence fee is no longer sustainable they way the media is going, but ultimately, you pay for your TV one way or the other, whether it's part of the advertising budget for all the products you buy (even if you don't own a TV), subscription, or anything else. The likes of News Corp (i.e. Fox, Sky) hate it, and complain about the BBC all the time, because they prevent their complete global domination. Another reason the BBC is so important.
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Tue May 01, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
I do have one cool black & white TV. It is a nine inch Zenith from 1976 and has the Declaration of Independence on the side. It is the "Spirit of 76" model.

Nice!  bigthumbsup 
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Tue May 01, 2007 2:30 am

Some of the old Philco TVs were nice.




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Wed May 02, 2007 5:40 am

Hi there, old b/w TV's are great for DXing, and so are the first generation color sets with manual dials for VHF/UHF.

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Wed May 02, 2007 6:27 am

My folks had a 25+ inch Magnavox console B/W TV. Was a fine piece of furniture that at least once a year would need new tubes. This was '65- '66. We actually had TV repairmen make housecalls (it was too big to move). The guy would bring a large box (w/ drawers!) of tubes in and proceed to swap tubes until he got the thing to work.

Does anybody today bother to get a TV fixed when it finally goes bad? I've bought 5 or 6 TVs as an adult. I've had only one go bad - it went to the Salvation Army, not worth fixing.
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Wed May 02, 2007 3:04 pm

Here some pictures of nice old TV-sets
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the one of a neighbour had a switch, so that he could chose between TWO channels, instead of only to have a single channel
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RE: Black And White Televisions.

Fri May 04, 2007 6:55 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 9):
How much did it cost?

I thinks it's about £110 a year, plus £500 a year for satellite (all the channels) so £600 a year to watch TV, which I don't watch anyway!!!
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Fri May 04, 2007 6:57 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 25):
thinks it's about £110 a year, plus £500 a year for satellite (all the channels) so £600 a year to watch TV, which I don't watch anyway!!!

Thanks, ever since I heard about this I have wondered how much it cost.
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Sat May 05, 2007 4:31 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 25):
I thinks it's about £110 a year, plus £500 a year for satellite (all the channels) so £600 a year to watch TV, which I don't watch anyway!!!

If you don't watch much, why on earth are you paying out £500 a year to Murdoch for Sky?
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Sat May 05, 2007 6:20 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 27):
If you don't watch much, why on earth are you paying out £500 a year to Murdoch for Sky?

Just cancelled it, I only watch Sky News and can get that on Freeview!!! Also use Tescodvdrental.com for films which is very good!!

So, as I'm now 500 quid a year better off what shall I spend it on? A black and white tv perhaps?
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Sat May 05, 2007 7:19 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 28):
So, as I'm now 500 quid a year better off what shall I spend it on?

It's never too early to think about retirement.  Wink
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Sat May 05, 2007 7:35 pm

Quoting Aloges (Reply 29):
t's never too early to think about retirement.

And 500 quid would go such a long way!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not!
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Sat May 05, 2007 8:10 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 30):
And 500 quid would go such a long way!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not!

I mean that as an addition to any contributions you're making; I don't think 500 pounds a year are to be sneezed at.
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Sat May 05, 2007 9:50 pm

Except for a few very cheap, very small portable tv's, black and white TV's are no longer sold in the USA. I do have a 13 inch B&W I bought about 21 years ago to use at work, as I was working a lot of weekends during NFL football season. I believe it still works.
In the USA, except for PBS, all broadcast programs are commercially sponsored. There is no tax on owning or watching a TV or radio. One can use an antenna to get basic broadcast TV, usually the local affiliates of the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS), Spanish networks (Telemundo) and some 'independent' local stations. In reality though, and to get many national or even to get local broadcast channels without any interference and to get premium channels, one needs to have a monthly subscription to cable or satellite. Monthly fees for cable or satellite vary from $25 to over $100 depending if only want broadcast channels to a wide range of subscription channels (or about $300 to over $1,200/year). We do have the largely federally funded (with donations via pledges from viewers and corporations) Public Broadcasting System, with local stations affiliated and getting programing from the Washington DC based Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

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RE: Black And White Televisions.

Sun May 06, 2007 1:03 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Many might say that the chances of the government rounding them up is slim,

The chances are ZERO. My goodness, how else would your government feed you propoganda and mind control?
It's a very effective tool the elite have been using against the common man since it was invented. Some say TV programming mirrors real life......but the truth is its the opposite (by design).

In my archives I have a 13" RCA B&W TV, a monochrome Heathkit 8088 PC w/16KB of RAM, and the original Apple Macintosh. TV still works and the computers still boot (off of floppies - remember those?).
 
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RE: Black And White Televisions.

Sun May 06, 2007 2:41 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 17):
I don't think it's a big deal. We got "pledge breaks" they got "TV tax". UK should probably drop it now as the bureacracy probably costs more than they are saving, they should switch to funding out of their general taxes, switch to commercials or do the dreaded "pledge break".

The PBS pledge breaks turn out well over in Aus, the Lehrer newshour shows instead some fascinating segment that is obviously much too good to waste on the US audience. They are usually the most interesting of the whole hour, and they rest is pretty good. So you pledgers do not know what you are missing!
It is a bit like UK TV, come to Aus (or NZ) for the best of UK TV. We miss a few good things but most of the junk is cut out.
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