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Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:54 am

Inspiron E1505,Intel Pentium dual-core processor T2080 (1MB/1.73GHz/533MHz)

I just bought this machine today and it will be mailed to me soon. Anyone else have this?

I plan on using this for some games (flight sims) and other minor stuff.

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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:56 am

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
Is This A Good Laptop?



Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
I just bought this machine today and it will be mailed to me soon.

Shouldn't you have asked this question before you bought the laptop?  silly  As it is, doesn't look bad as far as laptops go.


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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:58 am

Ahh, the updated version of my laptop, I hope you don't have as many problems with yours.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:01 am

As far as I can see, it has only integrated graphics. You won't have much fun running 3D games or simulators on it.
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:07 am

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
Inspiron E1505,Intel Pentium dual-core processor T2080 (1MB/1.73GHz/533MHz)

As long as you didn't pay more than $299, sounds like a pretty good system. If you did, you got ripped off.
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:04 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 3):
As far as I can see, it has only integrated graphics. You won't have much fun running 3D games or simulators on it.

When would you suppose those external graphics solutions for non-professionals are coming? I would have loved something like nVidia's QuadroPlex (but cheaper) back when I had my laptop.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:28 am

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 5):
When would you suppose those external graphics solutions for non-professionals are coming? I would have loved something like nVidia's QuadroPlex (but cheaper) back when I had my laptop.

What are you referring to? A laptop either does or does not have a "proper" graphics processor with dedicated memory. It is one of the things you can't change after the fact.

The Express Card slot in the newer ones can in theory accept a graphics card, but since its bandwidth to the CPU is relatively limited, higher performance can't be achieved there either (nor in external PCIe adapters connected there).
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:22 am

Should have gone with a Toshiba. But for home use it should serve you well, for a Dell.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:58 pm

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
Is This A Good Laptop?

Sorry, not really. For example, most decent laptops today will have a 667 MHz bus and support 3-4 GB RAM vs 533 and 2. You'll really be pissed when you decide Vista really needs more RAM and find out that buying a 1GB DIMM will only get you 512MB extra as well.

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
I plan on using this for some games (flight sims)

Might be just tolerable if you opted for the Radeon graphics option although calling it 128MB is deceptive; I believe only 32MB of that memory is dedicated, the remainder is shared.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:33 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 6):
What are you referring to? A laptop either does or does not have a "proper" graphics processor with dedicated memory. It is one of the things you can't change after the fact.

The Express Card slot in the newer ones can in theory accept a graphics card, but since its bandwidth to the CPU is relatively limited, higher performance can't be achieved there either (nor in external PCIe adapters connected there).

I didn't mean external as in apart from internal integrated video, I meant hardware completely isolated from the laptop, as in external GPU's, like the Quadro Plex.

While these products are meant to still use a single PCIe slot in the host computer to allow for the interface and cabling between the device and the computer, mobile PCIe exists now in some newer laptops (not Dell unfortunately) and there may be a way to get that part to work.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:59 pm

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 9):
While these products are meant to still use a single PCIe slot in the host computer to allow for the interface and cabling between the device and the computer, mobile PCIe exists now in some newer laptops (not Dell unfortunately) and there may be a way to get that part to work.

The main question with such a setup is how many PCIe lanes you've got available to move data between the CPU and the graphics card. An Express Card slot has just a single one. High-powered graphics cards need up to 16.

Depending on how the application operates, this will usually have a major impact.
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:16 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 10):
An Express Card slot has just a single one. High-powered graphics cards need up to 16.

Have you heard of MXM, mobile PCIe modules, which have 16 lanes? Granted, these cards are intalled inside like the cpu or ram, so making an add-on card to support fully external graphics would be difficult, but not impossible, though not anytime soon.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:20 pm

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
Inspiron E1505,Intel Pentium dual-core processor T2080 (1MB/1.73GHz/533MHz)

I just got my Inspiron 1505 two and half weeks ago....great machine so far. I haven't had any issues with it what so ever. I use it mostly for "home" use, so I am not running many heavy applications.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:21 pm

In any case, it's better than my laptop.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:30 pm

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 13):
In any case, it's better than my laptop.

Or no laptop at all  Smile
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Tue May 01, 2007 3:05 am

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 11):
Have you heard of MXM, mobile PCIe modules, which have 16 lanes? Granted, these cards are intalled inside like the cpu or ram, so making an add-on card to support fully external graphics would be difficult, but not impossible, though not anytime soon.

That would be a possibility, but rarely practical...
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Tue May 01, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
That would be a possibility, but rarely practical...

Would your opinion change if I told you that the 24" iMac used MXM?  Wink

It's true; it's not a practical solution. There are many reasons, chief among which is that there aren't any MXM cards available for purchase. Sure, you can find one on eBay, but at this point, the standard is mainly used to make the manufacturer's job a little easier.

And while it is possible to swap out the graphics on an iMac, good luck finding drivers for OS X.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Tue May 01, 2007 3:44 am

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
Is This A Good Laptop?

No.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Tue May 01, 2007 4:24 am

Quoting AC773 (Reply 16):
Would your opinion change if I told you that the 24" iMac used MXM?

No. That's not an external graphics card, and not for a laptop, either.
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Tue May 01, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 12):
I just got my Inspiron 1505 two and half weeks ago....great machine so far. I haven't had any issues with it what so ever. I use it mostly for "home" use, so I am not running many heavy applications.

Everyone,

Like Dtwclipper stated, this machine will be my home machine versus the two I use here at work. The only apps that I will be running are Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004, Office, and the Internet. The only thing I am concerned about the RAM is adding airport add-ons and additional fleet to the simulator. Several folks pre-told me that this was a good machine to work with and previewed it myself before purchasing it.

The reason why I am asking you all for your opinions is to see what you all have to say about the machine no matter how dangerous it would be.  Wink

Thanks again,
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Wed May 02, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
Is This A Good Laptop?

It looks OK to me, but what are you intending to use it for? Basic home uss like browsing the web, e-mail and word processing you'll be fine . . .

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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Wed May 02, 2007 11:18 am

OK, so what laptop should I get if I wanted some decent 3D performance??

I know the Dell E1705 has some better Graphics cards... 128mb and 256mb dedicated, I think.

Or... what would be better than a dell?? (NOT a mac, Klaus, NOT a mac!!! I don't want to hear it!!)

Something to run some newer games at mid - low settings?
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Wed May 02, 2007 11:33 am

Quoting Bagpiper (Reply 21):
Or... what would be better than a dell?? (NOT a mac, Klaus, NOT a mac!!! I don't want to hear it!!)

Since every Mac can also be used as a PC, excluding even to think about it doesn't seem very logical to me. But of course, suit yourself!
 
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Wed May 02, 2007 12:39 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 22):
Since every Mac can also be used as a PC, excluding even to think about it doesn't seem very logical to me.

Ah crap lol... I forgot about that!

I stand corrected... so yeah, you can talk about macs I guess....


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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Wed May 02, 2007 2:13 pm

Quoting Bagpiper (Reply 23):
Ah crap lol... I forgot about that!

I stand corrected... so yeah, you can talk about macs I guess....

Just be sure to add the cost of a full box version of XP or Vista when you compare prices. It won't come with the Mac.

Quoting Bagpiper (Reply 21):
I know the Dell E1705 has some better Graphics cards... 128mb and 256mb dedicated, I think.

Not dedicated as I mentioned above - ATI has created this new fiction of "Hypermemory" that sounds like dedicated memory. In reality it's only 1/4 dedicated, 3/4 shared.
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RE: Is This A Good Laptop?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:13 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but the 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS is 100% dedicated, right?

I know the 256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory isn't 100% dedicated.

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