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NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 7:01 am

OK everyone, here's the Richmond thread for this week's NASCAR events. I'll start off by posting the entry list.

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007/10/data/entry_list.html

Kreg

P.S. The 10/36 in the title is for race number 10 out of 36.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 8:19 am

Christ another Car Of Tomorrow race. YAWN. Who ever had the idea for that Piece of sh*t should be shot and dragged around the race track behind one of the cars.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 9:29 am

Hooray for Richmond International Raceway. Keep this thread going.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 9:45 am

Heres a few Rumors for all you to ponder on.

1. DEI and RYR talking merger. Supposedly talking with several auto manufacturers.

2. Michael Waltrip has supposedly spent the last week lobbying hard against NASCAR for changes in qualifying. Rumor has it that NASCAR is listening.

3. NAPA could be looking at its options. Supposedly they have been speaking with Richard Childress as a replacement sponsor for Cingular, should AT&T lose their lawsuit against NASCAR and not be able to rebrand the 31 car. Supposedly they are also talking with Roush about sponsorship of the 16 car, since Ameriquest won't be back next year. Michael Waltrip is disputing these reports.

** Just as a side note, I can see both NAPA and UPS leaving Maichael Waltrip Racing.**

4. Supposedly auto industry analysts and executives await the outcome of the sale of DaimlerChrysler, which could happen in the next month. Higher up executives claim Dodge will stay in NASCAR.

** I know there was some talk about Chrysler being up for sale, but has anyone heard that a deal could be done within the next month? Who's buying them?**



I can't see Dale Jarrett making this race. He's now out of provisionals.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 10:07 am

Quoting Charger (Reply 1):
Christ another Car Of Tomorrow race. YAWN. Who ever had the idea for that Piece of sh*t should be shot and dragged around the race track behind one of the cars.

I like you. Let's be friends  scratchchin 
I too hate the COT, and Nascar's promise of good racing has been a complete flop.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 10:34 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 4):
I too hate the COT, and Nascar's promise of good racing has been a complete flop.

That's what debris cautions are for....

Quoting Charger (Reply 3):
2. Michael Waltrip has supposedly spent the last week lobbying hard against NASCAR for changes in qualifying. Rumor has it that NASCAR is listening.

He qualified 20th fastest last week and didn't make the race.... I'd say he's got a legitimate complaint.

Quoting Charger (Reply 3):

3. NAPA could be looking at its options. Supposedly they have been speaking with Richard Childress as a replacement sponsor for Cingular, should AT&T lose their lawsuit against NASCAR and not be able to rebrand the 31 car. Supposedly they are also talking with Roush about sponsorship of the 16 car, since Ameriquest won't be back next year. Michael Waltrip is disputing these reports.

The only question for NAPA is will Biffle or Burton be the same promotion whore that Mikey is...

Quoting Charger (Reply 3):
** Just as a side note, I can see both NAPA and UPS leaving Michael Waltrip Racing.**

I see that happening before the season is out...
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 11:08 am

Quoting Charger (Reply 3):

If you go to jayski.com you can read about those rumors.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 11:15 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 4):
I too hate the COT, and Nascar's promise of good racing has been a complete flop.

Let's see, 3 COT races so far - Bristol & Martinsville ended up with side-by-side finishes, and Phoenix had a late pass, and Gordon & Stewart fighting it out to the checkered flag. Sounds like some decent racing so far. And I love the wing on the back!

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 5):

He qualified 20th fastest last week and didn't make the race.... I'd say he's got a legitimate complaint.

Not really a fair comparison. The top 35 spend most of practice running race set ups, Waltrip and the others looking to make the field are running more aggressive qualifying set ups. If the rest of the field was focusing on qualifying, I doubt MW would have been 20th fastest. I think that given DJ hasn't shown much on race day, it's clear Mikey's team isn't ready for prime time. Now that he has run afoul of the "Ole DW Rule" and is out of past champion provisionals, I expect DJ to spend a fair number of Sunday afternoons watching the race from his green recliner.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 1:19 pm

Quoting Charger (Reply 3):
2. Michael Waltrip has supposedly spent the last week lobbying hard against NASCAR for changes in qualifying.

Which is BS. Little Mikey can't drive worth a crap so . . . let's change the rules?!  rotfl 

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 5):
That's what debris cautions are for....

Yeah, with 12 to go and Stewart out front by a couple seconds . . .  mad 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 8:43 pm

RIR is a great track, been to the races there 12-15 times. Great racing in a great atmosphere. This year, they have added more seats to an already huge "arena" that will have 112K+ in attendance. It will reset the record for the largest gathering of people in one place in the state of Virginia.

We didn't go to either race last year, nor am I going this year, mostly due to other desires for recreational spending....

About the COT. I'm not a fan. It's getting too far away from the origins of the "stock" part of NASCAR, similar to all the body templates, and restrictor plates, and mandated this and mandated that. Pretty soon, NASCAR will be issuing the whole damn car at the track each week.

I think Denny Hamlin will take the checkered flag Saturday night.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 9:43 pm

Quoting Moose135 (Reply 7):
And I love the wing

I'm just the opposite, that's the part I hate about the CoT.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 9):
I think Denny Hamlin will take the checkered flag Saturday night.

The race is Saturaday night? Shoot, I'm not going to be able to watch it.

I think that if NAPA and UPS leaves MWR, I think Mikey should join his brother in the announcer's booth and Jarrett should retire to his racing school. Then Mikey can work on getting young guys into the Nextel Cup, like Reutimann, Timothy Peters, Regan Smith, Brad Coleman, etc.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 9:50 pm

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 10):
Shoot, I'm not going to be able to watch it


 biggrin 

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 10):
The race is Saturaday night?

IIRC, both the Races at RIR are night races this season.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 10):
I think that if NAPA and UPS leaves MWR, I think Mikey should join his brother in the announcer's booth

I think Mikey oughta retire to anywhere, and not wait on NAPA and UPS. He's a "never was". Never was as good as his brother, never had a head for the business, got greedy wanting his own team when he could succeed as a driver. I'm surprised Toyota has told him (or at least told him publically) enough is enough.

Hell the man's still MINUS 27 in points. How can you be ten races into the season and still have MINUS points.  rotfl 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 10:13 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
IIRC, both the Races at RIR are night races this season.

Ahh, missing 2 races isn't that big of a deal. On Saturday nights I go to the local dirt track for the races there, so I'll be watching racing either way. Big grin
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Thu May 03, 2007 10:44 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
IIRC, both the Races at RIR are night races this season.

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Not just this season. They have both been at night for several years now.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Fri May 04, 2007 12:19 am

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 9):
RIR is a great track, been to the races there 12-15 times. Great racing in a great atmosphere.

RIR in its current configuration is nice, but the old RIR (before they rebuilt it in 1988) rocked. Some great finishes there, espcially in '86 when Dale Sr took out DW and a couple other leading cars in the last couple of laps and Kyle Petty goes from fifth to first to win.

Btw, in doing a little research, am I seeing correctly that the cheapest seat at RIR this weekend cost $195.00?

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Fri May 04, 2007 12:47 am

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 5):
That's what debris cautions are for....

You notice how they zoom on it?

The finish last Sunday was shit as well.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Fri May 04, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
Btw, in doing a little research, am I seeing correctly that the cheapest seat at RIR this weekend cost $195.00?

Yes - they ain't cheap. This is the first race in AGES that hasn't been sold out. I'm sure it will be, but due to the increase in seating, they haven't got it all sold yet. Normally, as I understand it, the entire capacity is sold well in advance to their "list" The tickets I have used for the last 6 - 7 years belong to a neighbor who doesn't use them anymore. He has six tickets that he "gives" me. They still come to him twice a year in the mail.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Fri May 04, 2007 7:41 am

Heres a few of my thoughts:

I'm not a fan of the "Crap of Tomorrow" either. I think the big ass wing on the back belongs on one of these riced out import Honda's on the highway. Maybe when they go to some larger tracks the COT will be better. From what I hear, the COT is a lot harder to turn than the "other car".

Michael Waltrip needs to hang it up and concentrate on running his team. If I was Napa, I would leave and go to either the 16 or the 31.

Greg Biffle hasnt done anything with Pat Tryson as Crew Chief. Maybe Roush/Fenway Racing can pry Doug Reichart back from Toyota or wherever he is. IMO, The Biff is one of the best talents in Nascar and can win tons of races if he has the right setup.

Tony Stewart (My favorite driver) has led more laps this year than anyone and has had the worst luck this year. He could of won 3-4 races.

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Fri May 04, 2007 9:46 am

Ha, more bad luck for Waltrip... Dale Jarrett's crew chief has left!

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...t.mborland.chief.change/index.html

I'm not a fan of the CoT either. It doesn't look like a stock car. It looks like one of those types of cars they race in Europe. I'm guessing that alot of fans will think the CoT is a bunch of crap and leave the sport. Then maybe NASCAR will notice and realize they have made a mistake!
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Fri May 04, 2007 12:33 pm

Some thoughts:

-Richmond's one of the better tracks on the circuit. Looking forward to this weekend.

-Tony Stewart's luck sucks.

-I'm a little anxious about how Gordon will do, as he's been abysmal the last couple years there. Hopefully having the COT will help turn that around, as his worst finish in the COT is 3rd.

-Qualifying needs fixed. The top 35 rule is already outdated, even though it hasn't been in effect all that long. At least go back to the system where the top 38 get in on time & then the other 5 fall back on provisionals.

-It's a shame to see DJ running like crap. MWR's an embarrasment. The only driver that seems to be half-decent for that team is Reutimann.

-Other than the racing it's provided, which I'll admit has been good, I don't like the COT.

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 12:02 am

Somewhat off topic, but NASCAR related...

Todays, Virginian Pilot newspaper reports that Scott Wimmer has filed a lawsuit against Bill Davis Racing seeking $1.2 million in unpaid salary from 2006. Anybody know any details of what transpired last year to cause this?
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 6:47 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
IIRC, both the Races at RIR are night races this season.

Richmond races have run all night races for a while now... even the IRL race is at night.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 20):
Todays, Virginian Pilot newspaper reports that Scott Wimmer has filed a lawsuit against Bill Davis Racing seeking $1.2 million in unpaid salary from 2006. Anybody know any details of what transpired last year to cause this?

Supposedly when he was fired it was not done per the conditions in his contract. He could be fired for poor performance, but there was a sequence of timing and certain criteria that had to happen by certain dates which Wimmer contends didn't happen.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 8:12 am

I'm watching qualifying right now, and DJ missed the race. The under top 35 drivers that are locked in so far are:

Scott Riggs
Dave Blaney
A.J. Allmendinger
David Reutimann
Ward Burton
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 8:57 am

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007/10/data/lineup.html

Gordon got the pole again, Scott Riggs qualifyied 3rd, Allmendinger 13th, Reutimann 14th, Johnny Benson(#46, first race this year) qualifyied 31, Waltrip missed the race again and Jarrett missed his first race since 1994. That's the highlights from qualifying.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 10:24 am

That's a shame for Jarrett. I hate to see that, but I guess with that team & qualifying how it is, it was inevitable. Cool to see Johnny Benson get in...he's one of my favorite drivers in the Trucks.

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 21):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
IIRC, both the Races at RIR are night races this season.

Richmond races have run all night races for a while now... even the IRL race is at night.

The last scheduled day race at RIR was in 1997, won by Rusty Wallace. The last time Cup ran there during the day was in 2002, when the Saturday night race was stopped due to rain after 60 laps & finished Sunday morning. Smoke won that one, I think.

The IRL race has always been at night, IIRC.

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 11:48 am

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 24):
That's a shame for Jarrett.

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But it is a self-inflicted wound. He aligned with a loser (Waltrip) and therein lies his problem.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 23):
Waltrip missed the race again

 yawn  Never-was. He needs to quietly disappear behind the scenes somewhere.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 1:37 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 25):
But it is a self-inflicted wound. He aligned with a loser (Waltrip) and therein lies his problem.

I never would've imagined that MWR's equipment would have been that bad. I figured there'd be some growing pains, but with Waltrip making his only race of the season courtesy of the Gatorade Duel & now their former series champ missing the show...

He should've stayed with Yates. He may not have run well, but he probably would've been in the show each week.

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 7:07 pm

Looking forward to tonight's race...Few more random thoughts:

Casey Mears v Scott Riggs tonight for the coveted (for now) Top 35 points spot. Riggs qualified well and ran well last week in Talladega. Momentum in his favor. Would be very interested to see a Hendrick car be on the outside looking in.
THEN, you may see the Top 35 rule changed.

My take on the qualifying has been documented on the forums before (hate it, go back to speed for all, with 3-5 provisionals available), but if there has to be teams locked in, then make it the Chase drivers only...Top 12 have the lock in, with anyone after the first 5 races within 400 points as well being locked in. Currently, that would be just the Top 12. This would at least bring some excitement back to qualifying.

Ward Burton (my favorite driver) makes another race. Needs a good finish to gain on the Top 35. Hoping for Top 20. Gambled with the engine last week and it failed on the team (like Reutimann, Menard, probably ran lighter oil due to having to get into the race on speed).

Johnny Benson...welcome back!

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sat May 05, 2007 9:15 pm

Quoting Charger (Reply 3):
** I know there was some talk about Chrysler being up for sale, but has anyone heard that a deal could be done within the next month? Who's buying them?**

Kirk Kekorkian's Tracinda Corp. made a $4.58 billion bid for them. There has also been interest from investment funds Cerebus Capital Management and the Blackstone Group, along with Canadian auto parts maker Magna International (Who counts the Chrysler Group among it's clients). Other than the Tracinda bid, no other bid has been made public, although Magna has said their are trying to line up some partners for a bid. Considering the fact that Kekorkian late last year sold off his stake in GM, mainly because GM's upper management pretty much ignored his suggestions to help improve the company's fortunes, it's no surprise that he's looking at another troubled automaker to help out.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sun May 06, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 27):
Casey Mears v Scott Riggs

Riggs had a fast car in Phoenix, and Mears had a fast car at 'dega, but I'm going with Riggs since RIR is like Phoenix.

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 27):
Ward Burton (my favorite driver) makes another race.

And with the Virginia Tech logo on the hood!

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 27):
Johnny Benson...welcome back!

Yes, welcome back Johnny, I hope he runs well. When they tested at RIR a few moths back he had a strong car.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sun May 06, 2007 2:10 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 29):
And with the Virginia Tech logo on the hood!

Apparently since Ward and owner Larry McClure are each supporters of VaTech yearly, and with Ward's Wildlife Foundation working routinely with VaTech, the team got permission from the campus to wear the logos for the rest of the season. A nice tribute that the Virginia based team is doing for those affected.

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sun May 06, 2007 9:53 am

Grrr, the race is rained out! Tomorrow (Sunday) at 1 P.M. ET time is the new time.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sun May 06, 2007 11:33 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 31):
Grrr, the race is rained out! Tomorrow (Sunday) at 1 P.M. ET time is the new time.

Dangit, I could have watched the entire race today, since I'm on nights . . .

Now I'll have to tape it tomorrow while I sleep . . . .
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Sun May 06, 2007 3:31 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 32):
Now I'll have to tape it tomorrow while I sleep . . . .

Ditto...and I had plans to watch the PGA when I woke up too.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Mon May 07, 2007 8:02 am

Another Johnson win. Great. I'm starting to see how old school fans felt about Jeff Gordon back in the day.

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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Mon May 07, 2007 12:40 pm

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 34):
Another Johnson win.

He ran a great race. I watched it (on tape) when I got up this afternoon.

Jeff Green needs his ass handed to him though . . . he's a lap down and causing trouble for the lead lap cars . . . . and once again, Stewart gets the crappy end of the stick because of rookie no talent drivers.

At least Jeff Gordon didn't win . . . .
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Mon May 07, 2007 3:19 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 35):
He ran a great race. I watched it (on tape) when I got up this afternoon.

Jeff Green needs his ass handed to him though . . . he's a lap down and causing trouble for the lead lap cars . . . . and once again, Stewart gets the crappy end of the stick because of rookie no talent drivers.

Hate to say it, but the Hendrick organization (outside of Mears) is firing on all cylinders, especially in the COT races.

Jeff Green certainly ruined Greg Biffle's day and could have done the same to Dale Jr.

As for Tony Stewart, he still finished 8th even with the car beat up. I'm just pissed at Sterling Marlin for ruining Ward Burton and Ricky Rudd's day (and nearly Tony's). Ward was looking at a 23rd place finish or so which would have helped gain some points towards the Top 35 but winds up 35th and still 200 points out. The VA Tech logo on the hood looks good and I hope the charity auction for the helmet raises a lot for the Tech funds.

Darlington next week (Ward's favorite!)
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Mon May 07, 2007 3:27 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 36):
Hate to say it, but the Hendrick organization (outside of Mears) is firing on all cylinders, especially in the COT races.

No question, they are kicking butt. Kudos to them.

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 36):
Darlington next week

 praise  The Lady in Black . . . . glad they returned to Darlington.

Night race again, correct. Sunday is Mother's Day, they don't usually race on MD.
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RE: NASCAR: Richmond 10/36

Tue May 08, 2007 5:49 am

I'm sick of Johnson winning.  Angry Denny Hamlin once again had a great run. If Hendrick Motorsports loses one COT race, I'm guessing they'll lose it to Hamlin.

Next week... the Lady in Black, I can't wait. That track has a great history. I was playing it on NASCAR 07, for the PS2, and got my Darlington Stripe! Big grin
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