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Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 11:20 am

In a missing-wealthy-pretty-white-woman case exceeded in scope and notoriety only by the Laci Peterson murder...
...it appears that the intercontinental search for Natalee Holloway has found its 2nd wind.



CNN Article Here


In other news, Nancy/Greta breathe a sigh of vocational security.  Yeah sure


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Thoughts on this case, and the resumed search? What say you?
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 11:24 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Thoughts on this case, and the resumed search? What say you?

People disappear or are killed every day. Why should I have to hear about this person? What's so frackin' special about her? Oh, right...

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
missing-wealthy-pretty-white-woman

 Yeah sure
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 11:27 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):

Thoughts on this case, and the resumed search? What say you?

I think she was atomically transferred to Venus where tiny Martians use her to cause chaos with big-mouthed, fanatical, and sensational reporters on FOX News and Headline News.
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Sun May 06, 2007 11:38 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Thoughts on this case

*yawn*

Luckily all we might get down here is a small note buried in the paper, IF there is anything at all...
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 11:42 am

Why didn't they do this when they first arrested him? Sounds like a witch hunt to me.
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Sun May 06, 2007 11:43 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
What say you?

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Sun May 06, 2007 12:11 pm

Why is this still in the news. It's almost as bad as all the news coverage Scott Peterson got. Things like this happen all over the world all the time. I have a feeling the reason these 'now big' stories got so big was they were first aired on a slow news day, it must've grown from there.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 12:12 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Thoughts on this case, and the resumed search? What say you?

Basically, it was suspected that this whole evolution is just a formality they neglected to do when the murder took place.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 5):
Why didn't they do this when they first arrested him? Sounds like a witch hunt to me.

Probably Paulis Vander Sloot had his influence stall the investigation on his son. No one really expects anyone to find anything including her parents. The Vander Sloots don't seen to be concerned either. They'll excavating the properties of Depak and Satish Kalpoe next. Joran is living it up in the Netherlands, living the rockstar lifestyle I would imagine. This accomplish nothing i'm afraid, dotting I's and crossing T's to make the inverstigation look thorough.
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Sun May 06, 2007 12:17 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 8):
Probably Paulis Vander Sloot had his influence stall the investigation on his son. No one really expects anyone to find anything including her parents. The Vander Sloots don't seen to be concerned either. They'll excavating the properties of Depak and Satish Kalpoe next. Joran is living it up in the Netherlands, living the rockstar lifestyle I would imagine. This accomplish nothing i'm afraid, dotting I's and crossing T's to make the inverstigation look thorough.

If I was Dutch, I'd be outraged at the waste of my tax dollars.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 12:31 pm

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
Why is this still in the news. It's almost as bad as all the news coverage Scott Peterson got.

The news is all about ratings and money these days. If they feel more people will watch when they talk about Holloway, on the air it goes....

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Sun May 06, 2007 12:33 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 10):
If they feel more people will watch when they talk about Holloway, on the air it goes....

and off goes my TV. Give me real news, and I'll watch it.
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Sun May 06, 2007 1:01 pm

Quoting TZ757300 (Reply 11):

and off goes my TV. Give me real news, and I'll watch it.

Unfortunately, most people don't have the same attitude as you.

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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 1:05 pm

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
Why is this still in the news. It's almost as bad as all the news coverage Scott Peterson got.

But are you surprised though? The reason both have gotten the coverage that they have, is because many view them as modern-day real-life soap operas.

Think about it:
Laci Peterson/Natalee Holloway..... Scott Peterson/Joran van der Sloot

All are young, wealthy, white, beautiful, and seemingly the person you'd be just as likely to have as your ideal cheerleader, housewife, golf buddy, or soccer teammate.

But all is not what it seems with the women: pregnancy, questionable paternity, infidelity..... drunkenness, fornication, disorderly conduct.

Now the females disappear, and the latter two are the prime suspects. Will their looks and connections save them, or will they fall to the status of ye pathetic mortals??? ---film at 11.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 2:04 pm

Some people just can't accept the fact that she's shark food.

I guess with Paris heading to the poker and Anna Nicole dead the TV news needs something to talk about. God forbid they report on something that matters to more than 10 people in the country.
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Sun May 06, 2007 3:35 pm

I forgot the term Missing-Wealthy-White-Woman hysteria on the news, can someone elaborate?

I agree, this person unfortunately is most likely dead, but seriously her family is making a negative publicity towards Aruba. People die everyday all around the world, but the fact that we have to dawn on somone's rather insignificant life. This is old news, and frankly we have more important things to report than a missing person who is probably dead.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 4:44 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 15):
somone's rather insignificant life

Insignificant for those who did not know her. For those that did, her life was quite significant, and they are probably glad to get the attention.

To put it blunty, regardless of the media circuit, someone disappeared and probably died. As a parent, you will do ANYTHING possible to attempt to get an answer. So you show some fucking respect, because if you were in the parents position, you would ALL be probably acting the same way.
 
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 7:24 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 14):
can someone elaborate?

...JonBenet Ramsey, Chandra Levi (not rich, but the case centered around an influential individual), Laci Peterson, Elizabeth Smart, Natalee Holloway, etc. Also commonly referred to as Missing White Women Syndrome.

About the only blatant exception to this "rule", to ever gain similar nationwide/international coverage, was LaToyia Figueroa; but hers was a virtual "slam dunk" case that any 1styear detective could've solved, and was brushed aside by many as a token-- thrown to appease those expressing concern as to why only MWWWs seemed to be receiving that magnitude of media attention.


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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 10:26 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 7):
Joran is living it up in the Netherlands, living the rockstar lifestyle I would imagine.

Joran is really the last person I'd like to be. Believe me, things are different. He just published a book and you, just like that hysterical mother Holloway and Dr. Phil, should read it before presuming he is guilty without room for doubt or accepting people are innocent except proven guilty.
True, it was a spoilt rich kid having a nice life with enough horny tourist girls who come to the island to choose from.
But then the nightmare starts, she disappears while for you it was just girl #213 and you hardly remember her, you think you get away with some white little lies not to get your girlfriend and parents mad, and next thing you know you are jailed and seen and discussed on worldwide TV as guilty by Dr Phil and many others.
I admire Joran for trying to pick up a normal life now and being open about the worst side of him; cheating on his girlfriend and not being a gentleman. He is just an ordinary student now except for some well known and local people still emailing and yelling at him that he's a murderer.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Sun May 06, 2007 10:48 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 16):
LaToyia Figueroa

Who's that?  Wink

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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Mon May 07, 2007 1:32 am

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 17):
Joran is really the last person I'd like to be.

At the end of the day, this kid doesn't have it so bad. Best case scenario-- he's just a little sleezebag with worldwide infamy, worse case-- he got away with murder or accessory thereto.

Either way, there are a hella lot of people far worse off than he.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 17):
I admire Joran for trying to pick up a normal life now and being open about the worst side of him; cheating on his girlfriend and not being a gentleman.

Boo-friggin'-hoo for him... name a teenager that's never been in a spot like that.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Mon May 07, 2007 6:20 am

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 17):
Joran is really the last person I'd like to be. Believe me, things are different. He just published a book and you, just like that hysterical mother Holloway and Dr. Phil, should read it before presuming he is guilty without room for doubt or accepting people are innocent except proven guilty.

I never said he was guilty, I just said he was living the life of a rock star. There is no evidence link him to her other than he and the Kalpe brothers lying about about the tme they left her(apparently). He is still innocent until proven guilty, I never said anything more
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Mon May 07, 2007 6:46 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
Why is this still in the news. It's almost as bad as all the news coverage Scott Peterson got. Things like this happen all over the world all the time. I have a feeling the reason these 'now big' stories got so big was they were first aired on a slow news day, it must've grown from there.

Very true and if only I had made my remarks a week later, I would still have my job and no one would have cared.

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Tue May 08, 2007 7:08 am

As cruel as it may be to say that, your remark is probably 100% accurate  Sad
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Tue May 08, 2007 7:25 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 16):
and was brushed aside by many as a token-- thrown to appease those expressing concern as to why only MWWWs seemed to be receiving that magnitude of media attention.

Are you suggesting she wasn't just a token thrown out there to appease people who accused the media of playing race-ratings?

I really wish I could hear just one single news executive give a good reason for playing this inherently local case on national news other than $$$.
 
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Tue May 08, 2007 7:35 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 23):
Are you suggesting she wasn't just a token thrown out there to appease people who accused the media of playing race-ratings?

Nope, saying the exact opposite.

Granted, she had all the "ingredients" aside from being White-- but considering the case of Tamika Huston, I sincerely doubt there's any way Latoyia's story would've made it to Greta/Nancy had her parents not had the connections to get the typical baiters out there screaming bias.

Sadly, even Sharpton's pleas were barely enough to get Huston's story out.
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:17 am

My wife and I were in Aruba in December with some friends and looked all over, including at Carlos n' Charlies and couldn't find her, ok? What more do they want?  Wink



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Tue May 08, 2007 11:01 am

Man, I thought we were done with this. Between this & Paris Hilton & her disgustingly arrogant family's behavior over Paris' sentencing, I have even more reason to avoid the news media.

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Tue May 08, 2007 11:04 am

The Laci Peterson debacle was the most overblown thing of all time. Even worse than this Holloway business.

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Tue May 08, 2007 12:12 pm

Anyone one remember the Chandra Levy disappearance? It was the only thing in the news back in the summer of 2001 until something else newsworthy came around that September.

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Tue May 08, 2007 12:17 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 29):
Anyone one remember the Chandra Levy disappearance? It was the only thing in the news back in the summer of 2001 until something else newsworthy came around that September.

How could I forget? Gary Condit the Representative from Modesto was at the center of it.
Then Laci Peterson came along not too long after.

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Tue May 08, 2007 12:33 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 24):
Quoting D L X (Reply 23):
Are you suggesting she wasn't just a token thrown out there to appease people who accused the media of playing race-ratings?

Nope, saying the exact opposite.

Okay. I think we're on the same page now.

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 28):
The Laci Peterson debacle was the most overblown thing of all time. Even worse than this Holloway business.

Seriously, but you know, the real story should have been the "trial." They sentenced a man TO DEATH, with no motive, no body (at the time), no linkage, no murder weapon, and an alibi. Amazing. California is friggin' amazing.
 
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Tue May 08, 2007 12:39 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 31):

Seriously, but you know, the real story should have been the "trial." They sentenced a man TO DEATH, with no motive, no body (at the time), no linkage, no murder weapon, and an alibi. Amazing. California is friggin' amazing.

To this day I think Scott Peterson is innocent. Seriously, why would he hide the body in the same place he said he was at at the time of her disappearance?


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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Tue May 08, 2007 1:24 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 31):
no body (at the time),

Not true.
Both bodies were found before his arrest.

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 32):
Seriously, why would he hide the body in the same place he said he was at at the time of her disappearance?

Actually, that's a rather common motif among spousal murder cases.
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Tue May 08, 2007 10:40 pm

I see Nancy Grace's well manicured claws behind this.

ANS is turning into worm food, Michael Jackson's been quiet lately, and no one gives a rat's arse about Phil Spector.

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Wed May 09, 2007 1:41 am

...and yet, the Witches of East and West (i.e., van Susteren and Grace) are both tapping a vast audience with an apparently insatiable appetite for this sorta stuff-- or they wouldn't be able to maintain it during PRIME primetime hours for years on end.
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RE: Search For Natalee Holloway Back On

Wed May 09, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 35):
...and yet, the Witches of East and West (i.e., van Susteren and Grace) are both tapping a vast audience with an apparently insatiable appetite for this sorta stuff-- or they wouldn't be able to maintain it during PRIME primetime hours for years on end.

Well.... let's not forget that they are on cable, not on mainstream broadcast news. Ratings over there pale in comparison to such television masterpieces such as Survivor and my favorite, American Idol. I think if you asked the average joe on the bus who Greta van Susteren is, 9 times out of 10, they wouldn't know.
 
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:55 am

Well, I'm sure a fresh corpse of a rich (preferably young and attractive) white female will come floating along very soon.

All it takes is one to keep Grace Susteren and King LLP in the dough for a year or so.

Coming to think of it, I'm sure that the lively environs of our myriad trailer parks present at least a few dead white females whacked off under mysterious circumstances.

Oh, wait. They aint rich.

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Wed May 09, 2007 5:48 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 36):
I think if you asked the average joe on the bus who Greta van Susteren is, 9 times out of 10, they wouldn't know.

...hmm, I just took up your challenge-- and you're pretty much correct.

I currently (though not for much longer) work with coworkers possessing the cultural exposure of a jello-mold; and while 10/12 of them knew who Katie Couric was, 0/12 knew Greta, and 1/12 knew Nancy Grace. Interesting.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 37):
Coming to think of it, I'm sure that the lively environs of our myriad trailer parks present at least a few dead white females whacked off under mysterious circumstances.
Oh, wait. They aint rich.
Miss Nancy no do poor.

...actually, that's not true:
remember Jessica Lundsford? Shasta Groene? Lori Hacking (a virtual Laci Peterson reinactment), etc? While the latter was just lower-middleclass, the two former were literally straight out of the trailer park.
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Wed May 09, 2007 9:33 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 38):
...actually, that's not true:
remember Jessica Lundsford? Shasta Groene? Lori Hacking

Did the horrible twosome prattle on and on about these murders as well?

I thought they were otherwise occuppied by Michael Jackson's highjinks at the time.
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Wed May 09, 2007 12:54 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 39):
Did the horrible twosome prattle on and on about these murders as well?

Nah, they got the 24hr Laci Peterson treatment; just not nearly for the same length of time.
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