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Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Fri May 25, 2007 9:43 pm

Today, May 25, Star Wars turns 30. Now, 6 movies, countless books, and numerous games—video, computer, board, and card—later, the series still sees a large fanbase that many franchises wish they had. Who knew that the low-budget children's sci-fi film would have so much impact on the nation, and the world?

Numerous TV shows, printed books, and websites have been published to celebrate this film and it's impact. And so far, Wikipedia is the best bet for a balanced review of the series as a whole.

I'm not old enough to have been there for it's original opening, but I'm sure many of you were. If so, what memories might you have?
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Fri May 25, 2007 9:54 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Thread starter):
I'm not old enough to have been there for it's original opening, but I'm sure many of you were.

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Actually, it's really hard for those who weren't around at the time to appreciate quite how big a thing Star Wars was. The reason why it was so special is simply that we'd never seen anything like it before. It's hard to grasp that, when space fantasy these days is so commonplace, but back then it was just an extraordinary thing, entirely, completely, utterly new.

Star Trek had been there, sure, but that was a decade before, and the special effects, even as long ago as the mid-seventies, were transparently fake. Star Wars looked real (again, hard to believe with modern state of the art effects) and captivated an entire generation.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 12:22 am

Quoting Goldenshield (Thread starter):
I'm not old enough to have been there for it's original opening, but I'm sure many of you were

 irked  Smart ass kid . . . . .

I was definitely there at the premier.

While Star Trek opened the door on "Space Sci-Fi" in the 'modern era, Star Wars took the idea light years beyond. I was completely amazed at the differences in the production. The apparent size of the ships, the Death Star, etc, etc. ILM, another Lucas clone, got it's birth really during Star Wars production. And see how far it's come. ILM set the standard for every other special effects dependent movie thereafter. Anything else is just an imitation.

I saw the movie three times the first night.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 2:45 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 1):
...and the special effects, even as long ago as the mid-seventies, were transparently fake. Star Wars looked real (again, hard to believe with modern state of the art effects) and captivated an entire generation.

2001 pwns the original Star Wars in the visual effects department, and was almost a decade earlier.

Besides, the special effects for the original were actually quite bad. Most people forget that Star Wars has been re-edited many many times. When Star Wars first came out on VHS in the early '90s it had already been re-edited to incorporate advances made during Empire and Jedi to clean up the special effects of the original. The there was the disasterous re-release and the multitude of various releases that followed that.

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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 2:48 am

I went an saw it back in 1977 when it first came out.

I was amazed at the special effects back then. I'm amazed today at the difference in special effects between the original and the latest in the series.

I liked the movie the first time I saw it, but had no idea of the impact it would have in the future. I guess I should have bought some stock in George Lucas' little movie production shop...
 
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 2:50 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 3):
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Oh God, you didn't... *groan* I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious  Silly
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 2:57 am

There was an enormous amount of hype about it when it hit this side of the Atlantic, so it was probably inevitable that a lot of people like myself would be disappointed. The real test of a good film is how many times you've watched it, and I did watch the original one a second time in case I missed something the first time round. I didn't.

It was cowboys and Indians in space, and paled in comparison to films like "2001: A Space Odyssey".

I saw the first trilogy, then the second and third films, which were marginally better, but avoided all the sequels.
 
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 6):
It was cowboys and Indians in space, and paled in comparison to films like "2001: A Space Odyssey".

It's a bit daft to compare it to 2001. How many kids and teens were going to go out of their way to watch a highly intellectual film like 2001? It's like complaining that today's kids go and watch Hostel rather than Solaris. Duh, of course they do.

And cowboys and Indians in space is exactly what it was, given that it ripped so many films from that kind of genre. War films too. The whole Death Star attack sequence is taken lock, stock and barrel from The Dambusters, including all dialogue.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 3:30 am

Quoting Goldenshield (Thread starter):
I'm not old enough to have been there for it's original opening, but I'm sure many of you were. If so, what memories might you have?

I remember standing in line in the summer fog for hours to get to see one of the last showings at the Coronet Theater on Geary in S.F. Damn, we were cold, but we all wanted to know why everyone kept saying "May the Force be with you" as they came out of each showing. Heh, we even got seats in the loge, and could smoke through the flick.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 3:39 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
It's a bit daft to compare it to 2001.

In the sense that, while both were set in space, 2001 felt so much more real. It portrayed the lonliness and emptiness of space in a way that Star Wars did not. No doubt George Lucas didn't want to, either, but that's how I'm comparing the two.

And the music in Star Wars (John Williams?) did my head in! The Blue Danube in 2001 worked beautifully.
 
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 3:43 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 9):
In the sense that, while both were set in space, 2001 felt so much more real. It portrayed the lonliness and emptiness of space in a way that Star Wars did not. No doubt George Lucas didn't want to, either, but that's how I'm comparing the two.

You were an adult at the time. It was hardly aimed at you!
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 3:44 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 9):
In the sense that, while both were set in space, 2001 felt so much more real. It portrayed the lonliness and emptiness of space in a way that Star Wars did not. No doubt George Lucas didn't want to, either, but that's how I'm comparing the two.

I think you're comparing apples to grapefruits my friend.

2001 vice Star Wars.

Both - in their own right - excellent films. But neither designed to compete with one another.

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 9):
And the music in Star Wars (John Williams?) did my head in!

Correct - John Williams. Excellent score. Exceptional composer.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 3:57 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
I think you're comparing apples to grapefruits my friend

Oh you're right, they are in completly different leagues. While I can go with the odd fantasy blockbuster (I loved the '80s Flash Gordon and Close Encounters, but hated ET) Star Wars left me wondering if I'd seen the same film that everyone else saw. Like I said, I watched it a second time to see if I was missing something and still came away cold.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 9):
And the music in Star Wars (John Williams?) did my head in!

Correct - John Williams. Excellent score. Exceptional composer.

Think you picked me up wrong here ANC! It wrecked my head, and was another reason I didn't like it.
 
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 4:02 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 12):
Think you picked me up wrong here ANC! It wrecked my head, and was another reason I didn't like it.

No, I got it.

I just disagreed . ..  wink  biggrin 
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Sat May 26, 2007 4:12 am




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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 4:13 am

What I wonder is what it must have been like to watch Empire Strikes Back for the first time not knowing that Darth Vader was Luke's father.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 4:17 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 15):
What I wonder is what it must have been like to watch Empire Strikes Back for the first time not knowing that Darth Vader was Luke's father.

We had "Fan Magazines" back in the 'olden days', and there was as much speculation about Darth/Luke in those as we have here about "Battlestar".  biggrin 

Us farts managed to speculate and opine back then too.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 4:19 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
And see how far it's come. ILM set the standard for every other special effects dependent movie thereafter.

Indeed. Even Star Trek used the services of ILM a lot.

Personally, my favourite part of Star Wars is the original trilogy, because there's something missing in Episodes I, II and III that made Episodes IV, V and VI so special. The best of them all is definitely Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back.
 
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 5:08 am

One thing I find very interesting about the whole Star Wars saga is that if you consider Episodes 4, 5, and 6 as a trilogy, they form the story of the hero Luke Skywalker, but when Episodes 1, 2, and 3 are included, the six films are the story of the fall and redemption of the antihero Anakin Skywalker.
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RE: Star Wars, 30 Years Today

Sat May 26, 2007 6:05 am

I remember seeing the long lines on TV and how the measure of how cool you were was related to how many times you had seen it. I myself didn't see it until after the initial hubbub was over, but I was thrilled.

I forget the name of the theater in Seattle it was being shown at, but the big deal was the fact it was being shown in 70mm format, with Dolby surround sound.

It will endure timelessly because its such a great story with good triumphing over evil. I never played any of the at home console titles, but the arcade video game was fun. Always loved hearing Obi-Wan at the end : "The force will be with you........always."

Although it got the PG rating for ficticious violence, there was no profanity. You know that one scene where Luke sees the Falcon in the docking bay for the first time? He states, "What a hunk a junk!" I've always joked it would be great if, just once, I could hear him say, "What a piece of shit!"
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