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A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:07 am

http://sports.aol.com/mlb/story/_a/t...30809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

His latest on-field antic involved shouting at Toronto's third baseman just as he was about to catch a fly ball last night, causing him to miss the catch. Many will remember him from the ALCS against Boston a few years ago, when he slapped at the glove of a Red Sox player like a little woman in order to try and knock the ball lose, an obvious and easy out call for the umpires for interfierence.

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Replays showed Rodriguez shouting something, and Clark backed off at the last second. McDonald was only a few steps behind Clark, but couldn't make the catch and ball dropped for an RBI single.

"I don't know what my intention was," Rodriguez said. "I didn't say, 'I got it' or anything like that."

Clark claimed Rodriguez called for the ball.

Now he has to resort to bush league tactics to try and get a win for his team? How pathetic. Go home, Stray-Rod...You need to spend less time out with hookers at strip clubs, and more time focusing on the game. Stray-Rod made headlines in the NY Post early this week for this little escapade:
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/...ted-with-a-blonde-at-a-strip-club/

The guy is a mess. Couldn't happen to a better guy, though, if you ask me. I hope he never wins a ring.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:13 am

He is a jerk and that was a childish move on his part. There is no place in Baseball for that.

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:23 am

As great a ballplayer as A-Rod is, it is a shame he has to act like a petulant child over and over again...
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:58 am

I am surprised that he wouldn't be called out for interference even though he actually didn't physically interfere. If the umps did that, then that would be fair, like the BOS incident. I wonder what the actual rules for interference are. Yeah, truly bush league, we know he's got talent, but the Yankees were ahead by two runs in the 9th - with Mariano pitching like his old self, why pull sh*t like that?

One more reason my allegiance to the Yankees are being tested while the kids in Queens play baseball the way it is supposed to be played,
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:59 am

At least it would've been a victory even if Posada's popup was caught.

A-rod's move didn't sit well with me. If you're "the best baseball player of your generation," you should be ashamed to resort to bush-league trickery. And I'm not just saying that because Howie Clark was one of the most popular Rochester Red Wings of all time  Smile

When it comes down to it, here's the problem: A-rod is no Yankee.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:27 am

As a Red Sox fan I'll take Mike Lowell any day of the week over A-Rod. He's a gutsy player, gives he's all, keeps his mouth shut and lets his play do his talking.

A-Rod..........292 Avg, .386 OBA, .641 SLG% 19HR, 41 RBI............ 22.7 Million
M.Lowell......330 Avg, .386 OBA, .573 SLG% 10HR, 45 RBI............ 9 Million

So you all do the math... who is the better deal....??? The cellar dweller...? or the hottest team in baseball.....??

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:44 am

I am far from a Yankee fan (more a Met fan myself!), but so what that A-Rod does some dirty tactics. Such tactics and worse have been long a part of the game since it began and while it may be unsportsman like, it make the game much more interesting. So long as he didn't cause the injury or a player and subject to displine if appropiate by the Umpires or MLB, then he can get away with a lot of bad beheavor.
 
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:53 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 6):
Such tactics and worse have been long a part of the game since it began

No they haven't. That's flat our wrong. It isn't acceptable behavior in the game of baseball to do what he did. When a player does what he did, they wear a pitch in the middle of the back next time up. Period. Look at earlier this month when the Mariners were at Yankee Stadium. Josh Phelps goes out of his way to rail road Seattle's catcher. It was bull shit, and his next AB, he got pelted. It's what happens.

Stray-Rod's little stunt is NOT something that is "part of the game". It's flat bush league baseball.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:27 am

I just don't seem to have a problem with what A-Rod did. Stuff happens like that all of the time in baseball when players are going for balls by a team's dugout, etc. I don't see any difference between what A-Rod did and when a football or basketball player is talking smack to the other team. Either way, it is a player on one team trying to get in another player's head to affect their performance.

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 7):
When a player does what he did, they wear a pitch in the middle of the back next time up.

I agree with this. A-Rod will get thrown at next time the two team's meet. Does that make what he did wrong though? Throwing at batter has also been part of the game for years when one player does something the other team take exception to. Just because the Jays didn't like it doesn't mean that the play was "bush league."

In my opinion, it's no different then an infielder pretending to field a ball to throw of a baserunner or from one team trying to steal the other's signs. It's the way the game is played. Again, if the Blue Jays felt an "unwritten rule" was broken, they'll take care of it the next time the teams meet.

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:43 am

I'm sorry, but baseball in general these days  thumbsdown   thumbsdown 
 
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:55 am

Quoting Eagle11 (Reply 8):
Again, if the Blue Jays felt an "unwritten rule" was broken, they'll take care of it the next time the teams meet.

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IMO, the one more interesting was that "escort" he was seen with. Can anyone say "clubhouse distraction"?

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:34 pm

Please do not insult 'girls' and 'little women'. He's an ass, fine, but there's no need to indicate his poor sportsmanship by comparing him to a female.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:40 pm

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 11):
no need to indicate his poor sportsmanship by comparing him to a female.

Yes, by all means, dont give him that kind of credit  Wink Youll make him cocky soon enough..




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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:47 pm

While his actions may be Bush, the 3rd baseman has to catch that ball. I'm sorry, but its not like the starting infield don't know each others voice. If A-Rod is running towards 3rd and yells "mine" the 3rd baseman should have realized it wasn't Short making that call. He should stop whining because he got deeked by A-Rod.
 
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:26 am

Quoting Eagle11 (Reply 8):

Sorry, but what he did isn't cool at all. What he did, DOESN'T happen all the time in baseball, like the little cry baby claimed in his post game interview. His story even changed from the beginning of the interview. First it happens to him "4-6 times a week", Then he happens "3-4 times a week", and by the end it was "2, 3, 4, 5 times a week". He can't even lie correctly. Then, he said "I was all ready around 3rd base when I did it..." Which is an out and out lie as well. The re-play clearly showed he did it as he was RIGHT behind the 3rd baseman...Guess where the SS was? Yep, you guessed it, BEHIND the 3rd baseman. And finally, he claimed all he said was "HAH!!!!" Well, my take on the replay is clearly an "M". When you say "hah", your mouth opens up to say it. He looks like he's forming an "mmm" sound, which seems to back up Toronto's claim that he said "mine".

Stray-Rod can't even tell the truth. He lied a bunch of times in that interview about what happened, just so he can feel better about himself. And shouting anything directly behind a player is MUCH different than what you're claiming happens all the time in baseball. Players fane at a ground ball as they're going by to try and break up a doubble play, and they'll slide hard into 2nd to try and break up a doubble play, MAYBE shouting. But what Stray-Rod did doesn't happen nearly as much as you think, and how he did it IS bush league.

Quoting KROC (Reply 13):
While his actions may be Bush, the 3rd baseman has to catch that ball. I'm sorry, but its not like the starting infield don't know each others voice. If A-Rod is running towards 3rd and yells "mine" the 3rd baseman should have realized it wasn't Short making that call. He should stop whining because he got deeked by A-Rod.

I don't think so. He yelled it directly behind him as he was going by....He shouted it, and it's easy to get confused when you're young, and haven't played in the majors too long.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 14):
and it's easy to get confused when you're young, and haven't played in the majors too long.

It's either poor sportsmanship (or an interference rule) or it isn't, regardless of the age of the player affected. To me, it's another example of A-rod being an ass, but I do suspect that it happens quite frequently to all ball players. This just happened to be a situation where it created an adverse outcome. Methinks Clark may have heard this sort of thing a few times before in Pony League, High School, College, AA, AAA???
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:23 am

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 15):
Methinks Clark may have heard this sort of thing a few times before in Pony League, High School, College, AA, AAA???

Possibly, but it depends totally on the league he played in.

Pro rules, I don't know. I'm not sure if there is a verbal interference rule like there is in High School. In HS if a player is interfered with either verbally or physically, then the umps can do somethinga bout it. Legion plays largly by pro rules, but incorporates some HS rules. College is a whole other ball came in intself. Their rules differ from both pro and HS rules...

Anyway, what he did is bush league. It's a pathetic attempt by a desperate guy. It shows how low class he truely has become. There was a time he played the game with grace and class. Then he got full of himself about the time the Rangers signed him for 1/4 of a billion bucks. Suddenly in his own mind he became God's gift to the game of baseball.

Now he gets boo'd in Seattle, and Texas. I love it.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 16):
Anyway, what he did is bush league. It's a pathetic attempt by a desperate guy.

No argument here...and we've got three with the Yanks this weekend up here in BOS. Gee, do you think the Sox fans'll go easy on him??? crazy 
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:41 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 13):
While his actions may be Bush, the 3rd baseman has to catch that ball. I'm sorry, but its not like the starting infield don't know each others voice. If A-Rod is running towards 3rd and yells "mine" the 3rd baseman should have realized it wasn't Short making that call. He should stop whining because he got deeked by A-Rod.

 checkmark  A-Rod may have shouted "mine", but it wasn't his fault the ball dropped. By the time you get to the major leagues, you should know enough not to fall for something like that. Heck, you have thousands of fans screaming "I got it" every time a popup heads your way, and you still manage to make the catch. And if you think that this is the first time it's happened, you're delusional - it's just the first time that someone has dropped the ball because of it.

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 16):
Now he gets boo'd in Seattle, and Texas.

NOW he gets booed in Seattle and Texas? He's always gotten booed in Seattle, and Texas, and everywhere he goes - where the hell have you been?

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:53 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 18):
NOW he gets booed in Seattle and Texas? He's always gotten booed in Seattle, and Texas, and everywhere he goes - where the hell have you been?

Dude...un-twist your panties. I meant since he's left both cities...Calm down, big guy...calm down. Have a shot.

Quoting Mir (Reply 18):
And if you think that this is the first time it's happened, you're delusional - it's just the first time that someone has dropped the ball because of it.

What fails to amaze me is how you all think someone RIGHT behind you screaming "MINE!" shouldn't throw a feilder off... EVERYONE is taught, if you hear someone call you off, you get the hell out of there. You AVOID a collision at ALL costs. It's like you're saying "Oh, he should know the voices of EVERY major league player, including EVERYONE on his team, so as not to get confused ever."

The point remains, if you'd have ever played baseball, you would know that everyone is taught to get out of the way when someone behind you, or to the side of you yells "Ball!" or "Mine!" or "I got it!", you give way. Period. There's a difference between fans saying it when you're the ONLY PERSON going after a pop fly foul, and when you're in the middle of the friggen diamond.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:24 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 19):
I meant since he's left both cities...

Really? Could never have guessed.  Yeah sure

Did you really expect that he wouldn't get booed? You think he's the only player in baseball who gets booed when he returns to his former city after leaving for more money?

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 19):
It's like you're saying "Oh, he should know the voices of EVERY major league player, including EVERYONE on his team, so as not to get confused ever."

Certainly not every major league player. Everyone on his team would be good, yes, if only for the fact that it would show that he has good relations with his fellow players. But I'd settle for just the guy he'd be playing next to all night. Is that really too much to ask?

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:54 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 19):
Dude...un-twist your panties

Nice...another example of disdain and looking down on women. Now you are comparing Mir to a girl because he said something you don't agree with?
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:55 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
Did you really expect that he wouldn't get booed? You think he's the only player in baseball who gets booed when he returns to his former city after leaving for more money?

Uhh....Yeah? I expected it and applauded it. Again...Calm down big guy...calm down.

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
Certainly not every major league player. Everyone on his team would be good, yes, if only for the fact that it would show that he has good relations with his fellow players. But I'd settle for just the guy he'd be playing next to all night. Is that really too much to ask?

Funny...You didn't even address my other points about how confusing it might be if someone directly behind you shoudled out "Mine!", "I got it!", or "Ball!".

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 19):
What fails to amaze me is how you all think someone RIGHT behind you screaming "MINE!" shouldn't throw a feilder off... EVERYONE is taught, if you hear someone call you off, you get the hell out of there. You AVOID a collision at ALL costs.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:03 am

There's nothing wrong with what A-Rod did. Had it been any other player/team than A-Rod and the Yankees, it'd be a non-issue. Deking is part of the game. If you're going to condemn A-Rod then condemn the infielder who pretends the ball is coming to him to purposely fool an incoming runner (the flip side being, you must also condemn the fielder for acting like a throw isn't coming to his bag in hopes of convincing the incoming runner there's no play being made). And condemn Sean Casey, the first baseman for the Tigers for chatting it up with runners on first to purposely try and distract them. And while you're at it, condemn those same runners on first who, once the pitcher has committed to delivering the pitch to the plate, immediately "run" toward 2nd and stop in hopes of disrupting the pitcher's delivery and/or the catcher's concentration. And let's not forget the "phantom tag" at 2nd which is also an accepted part of the game. As long as the fielder pretends to touch the bag while executing a double play, that's good enough. And, even though I haven't seen it in several years, the ol' hidden ball trick is also part of the game.
Take A-Rod and/or the Yankees out of what happened and, as I said, it'd be a non-issue.
 
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:28 am

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 23):
There's nothing wrong with what A-Rod did. Had it been any other player/team than A-Rod and the Yankees, it'd be a non-issue. Deking is part of the game. If you're going to condemn A-Rod then condemn the infielder who pretends the ball is coming to him to purposely fool an incoming runner (the flip side being, you must also condemn the fielder for acting like a throw isn't coming to his bag in hopes of convincing the incoming runner there's no play being made). And condemn Sean Casey, the first baseman for the Tigers for chatting it up with runners on first to purposely try and distract them. And while you're at it, condemn those same runners on first who, once the pitcher has committed to delivering the pitch to the plate, immediately "run" toward 2nd and stop in hopes of disrupting the pitcher's delivery and/or the catcher's concentration. And let's not forget the "phantom tag" at 2nd which is also an accepted part of the game. As long as the fielder pretends to touch the bag while executing a double play, that's good enough. And, even though I haven't seen it in several years, the ol' hidden ball trick is also part of the game.
Take A-Rod and/or the Yankees out of what happened and, as I said, it'd be a non-issue.

Oh give me a friggen break!

Half the crap you described is not even close to the same area code as what Stray-Rod did.
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:40 pm

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 22):
You didn't even address my other points about how confusing it might be if someone directly behind you shoudled out "Mine!", "I got it!", or "Ball!".

Oh poor him, he got confused. Next time he probably won't get confused. If he's going to drop the ball every time someone tries to distract him, the major leagues are not the place for him.

But, since you have such a desire for me to address it:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 19):
The point remains, if you'd have ever played baseball, you would know that everyone is taught to get out of the way when someone behind you, or to the side of you yells "Ball!" or "Mine!" or "I got it!", you give way. Period.

I have played baseball, and I was taught that when a popup is on the way down, it's clearly your ball, you've called for it repeatedly, and you're about to make the catch, you make the catch. You trust that your other infielder has heard you (and if they're not repeatedly calling you off, they probably have) and will get out of the way. At the low speeds involved, even if there is a collision, nobody is going to get hurt, and the probability is that one of the two will make the catch. I've seen it happen that way numerous times.

I won't deny that he probably was confused, but the fact remains that it was a very catchable ball, and it should have been caught.

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 23):
Take A-Rod and/or the Yankees out of what happened and, as I said, it'd be a non-issue.

 checkmark  It happens all the time when catchers go after popups near the dugouts, and nobody complains. The play certainly wasn't squeaky clean, but if the runner had been Wil Nieves, this thread wouldn't be around. If the Blue Jays had been playing the Royals, this thread wouldn't be around. If Clark had done his job and caught the ball, this thread wouldn't be around. People just want to hate the Yankees and A-Rod. That's their right, and it comes with the territory of being the highest-profile team and player (arguably) in the game, but my does it look silly sometimes.

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:55 pm

Immature act by A-Rod yes, but as Mir wrote, just catch the darn ball..Sounds like to me someone's head wasn't in the game, perhaps one reason by the Blue Jays are under-performing.
 
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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:55 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 24):
Half the crap you described is not even close to the same area code as what Stray-Rod did.

This statement is useless without some dialogue to support it. Wanna try again?
 
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Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:36 am

Case in point: today, Mike Lowell knocked Robinson Cano to the dirt while breaking up a double play (Cano got the throw off anyway, so the two outs did get made). Legal play, and no big deal. Had it been A-Rod knocking Pedroia down, you'd never hear the end of it.

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RE: A-Rod Continues To Play Baseball Like A Girl

Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 14):
Sorry, but what he did isn't cool at all. What he did, DOESN'T happen all the time in baseball, like the little cry baby claimed in his post game interview. His story even changed from the beginning of the interview. First it happens to him "4-6 times a week", Then he happens "3-4 times a week", and by the end it was "2, 3, 4, 5 times a week". He can't even lie correctly. Then, he said "I was all ready around 3rd base when I did it..." Which is an out and out lie as well. The re-play clearly showed he did it as he was RIGHT behind the 3rd baseman...Guess where the SS was? Yep, you guessed it, BEHIND the 3rd baseman. And finally, he claimed all he said was "HAH!!!!" Well, my take on the replay is clearly an "M". When you say "hah", your mouth opens up to say it. He looks like he's forming an "mmm" sound, which seems to back up Toronto's claim that he said "mine".

See reply 14...Or do you pick and choose what you read?  Smile
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