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Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:59 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fSX32e_d-E

is it common for people to be crossing the tracks at train stations like this? This woman almost got killed to shave off a few seconds off her commute.
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:25 pm

Put a moron near a railway track and (s)he'll cross it like that. Nothing to do with Indian practices, but the person's own stupidity. In smaller stations, people often cross the tracks at well defined concretized pedestrian crossings across the tracks, especially when carrying luggage that is hard to carry across the overhead pedestrian crossing. With no elevators at such places, the concretized path is the standard option, just as with, say, some Amtrak Caltrain stations. But this is done when the trains are stationary, not when the Rajdhani Express is hurtling in at 130km/h .
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:27 pm

It is common, but I've never seen that close a shave before.

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Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:58 pm

Holy shit that was a close call, i have never seen trains go so fast next to the platform, damn that was dangerous. Indians are experts at avoiding those, dont try to cross the street in India like the indians, you will get killed.
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:48 pm

Many people,Just too many people out here,take things very casually & live risks every single day.Some just don't learn that it pays to be safe.
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:39 pm

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
This woman almost got killed to shave off a few seconds off her commute.

What, you expected her to wait the whole 9 seconds it took the train to pass??
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:31 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 3):
never seen trains go so fast next to the platform,

"so fast" ? That is the normal speed of fast trains, also when they get along platforms. I mean, fast trains have to keep up their speed also when passing stations.
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:36 pm

Quoting BarfBag (Reply 1):
Rajdhani Express is hurtling in at 130km/h

I thought that was the Shatabdi.
 
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:47 pm

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 7):

I thought that was the Shatabdi.

It's probably a Shatabdi.

I don't think this is quite the case (as in such a tight scrape), as most Indian trains go much slower than this one.. So I'm guessing the couple did not imagine the train would be on them quite as fast as it actually happened! I don't think they'll chance this ever again  Smile
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:58 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 8):
So I'm guessing the couple did not imagine the train would be on them quite as fast as it actually happened!

I think this happens all the time, everywhere... not necessarily with trains, but car and motorcycle accidents.
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:01 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 3):
i have never seen trains go so fast next to the platform

Try standing at Didcot Parkway on the platform when the Cardiff and Swansea Great Western 125s come past at 100mph.
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:33 pm

Quoting BarfBag (Reply 1):
not when the Rajdhani Express is hurtling in at 130km/h

I think that train was doing more than that, 160-180km/h I'd say. Express trains come past my station at 160km/h and it looks more or less like that, even a little slower...
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:40 pm

I can't say that it is Normal to nearly die at the hands of a speeding train, but People do it in a slightly less risky situation all the time. There are bridges to cross overhead but it takes too much time for some.

People are always in a Rush at train stations.....I wish there was a video of the board of a Second Class car of the Mumbai Local...Would show the craziness that happens when a train comes into the station.

I did it once....Took a Fast Local from Churchgate....to Borivali....during Rush Hour....an easy way to get hurt if you don't know what you're doing.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 3):
dont try to cross the street in India like the indians, you will get killed.

Hehe...thats the truth.

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 7):

I thought that was the Shatabdi.

It is a Shatabdi...Blue Cars...All A/C...Very Fast...and its a Daytime....I though most Rajdhani's travel by night.
 
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:51 pm

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
.....I wish there was a video of the board of a Second Class car of the Mumbai Local...Would show the craziness that happens when a train comes into the station.



Theres one.  Smile

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RE: Is This Common In India?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:53 pm

I've never seen it in the US but Hawk21M says, people take risks everyday over in India.

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:00 am


Another view.
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:56 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 15):
Another view.
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Is that normal or are there special circumstances involved?
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:03 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
Is that normal or are there special circumstances involved?

Pretty normal actually. There's just so many commuters during the day in Mumbai.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 17):
Pretty normal actually. There's just so many commuters during the day in Mumbai.

I wounder what the kill rate is for those trains?
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 17):
Pretty normal actually. There's just so many commuters during the day in Mumbai.

Some routes on the Bombay suburban are extraordinarily crowded. Others much less so. The system was long underinvested in. Through the network is over 300kms long and generally well regarded for ease of access and mobility, the rolling stock and signalling was not upgraded regularly to handle greater frequency and capacity to mitigate congestion.

It is only last year that construction began on the Bombay Metro, a new 160km, $5 billion system currently being built by a consortium comprising Anil Ambani's Reliance-ADAG group, Hong Kong MTR and Connex, on the lines of the Delhi Metro. It will not be opened until 2009 or so.
 
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:37 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):

Where were these guys from, the tourists, they are experiencing the real india, never have i ever seen that kind of rush to get on a train....
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 3):
i have never seen trains go so fast next to the platform,

There are videos on YouTube of Acela Express trains going through New England stations at 150 MILES per hour. That is impressive.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
Is that normal or are there special circumstances involved

Very normal during peak hours. Smile
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:02 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
There are videos on YouTube of Acela Express trains going through New England stations at 150 MILES per hour.



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
Many people,Just too many people out here,take things very casually & live risks every single day

No kidding!



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Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:12 am

The guy in the last video who shot that is a daredevil, unbeleivable bravery......
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:13 am

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):

Happens in America as well, seen it on many TV shows

Not just in India, but it does happen

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:45 am

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 25):
Happens in America as well

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:23 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 24):
unbeleivable bravery......

More like stupidity.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:26 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 26):
Quoting Ag92 (Reply 25):
Happens in America as well

Darwin weeding out the stupid. She almost hit the guy holding the camera.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:06 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 23):
No kidding!

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on Swiss rail-stations, where such "transits" of fast and express trains happen all the time, there is a white or yellow line on the platform, and people are cautioned NOT to cross that line at any time.
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and the two videos below show quite normal traffic as you can find it in many places, with very tolerant people involved
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Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 27):
unbeleivable bravery......
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More like stupidity.

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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:06 pm

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 7):
Quoting BarfBag (Reply 1):
Rajdhani Express is hurtling in at 130km/h

I thought that was the Shatabdi.

That looked like the Mumbai-Delhi Rajdhani Express. Those are the new LHB Ahlstorm coaches manufactured in India by a technology transfer.
The engine is the WAP-5 series (W = Wide bogied, A = AC Power, P = Passenger) based at Ghaziabad.

Rajdhanis typically go this fast at the platforms of small stations, and usually announcements are made well before hand on the station. It goes something like this in English - "Please note, fast train approaching Platform number 5, please stay off the tracks"

I studied that engine model for my finite element class in Mech Engg.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:09 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 15):
Another view.
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Ahh.. Thats Dadar Station Platform number 1 and 2 on the Central side. Isn't it?

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:13 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 23):

Eeesh.... That first video of Acela Express is at Kingston station, RI. My present home!

Seems like my traveling history is just making a parade through this thread!
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:59 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 24):
The guy in the last video who shot that is a daredevil, unbeleivable bravery......

It happens all the time in India

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:31 pm

Good grief. This is truly nothing. Anyone who has used the Mumbai suburban trains as a commuter sees this multiple times a day. I used to take the train at the age of 15 every morning from Bandra to Marine Lines and while I would usually try for a Bandra local, I often wound up having to grab a Borivali fast (or worse, the Virar fast if trains were running late) if the schedules were off - otherwise I'd be late for my first class. Some of the contortions we got up to simply to board (and hang on) to those trains were quite remarkable.

Ah, I miss those days....
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:54 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 26):
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Quoting Ag92 (Reply 25):

This is disturbing to me. Perhaps because as child in the Chicago suburbs on a train to downtown I saw a women on the tracks ahead. It turns out that she was committing suicide on the tracks. The operator hit the brakes and still smacked her. I've had various nightmares about it for the last 20 years or so which seems strange to me. I've ssen people shanked in prison and a head split open under a car with no negative memory. I wonder why the train memor is so indellible?
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:04 pm

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 34):
Some of the contortions we got up to simply to board (and hang on) to those trains were quite remarkable.

Sean.The Best part is on getting down,you would not need to walk,The crowd will carry you out of the station  Smile
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RE: Is This Common In India?

Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:12 pm

Quoting PLANAR (Reply 31):
Ahh.. Thats Dadar Station Platform number 1 and 2 on the Central side. Isn't it?

I got lost in that platform last year when I went to India during office time in the evening, and I couldnt hear what my friends were trying to tell me on the cell phone because it was so noisy. All I could make out was overbridge and I kept seeing overbridges all around me. Didn't know which one they were talking about. Then I climbed one of those bridges and found a rather unusual stall selling copies of the Bhagavad Gita (Holy Book). And by chance we had all passed by that stall a few hours earlier so I got my friends to search for the Gita stall at Dadar to find me. Took about an hour but they did in the end.

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Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:15 am

Quoting AKLDELNonstop (Reply 37):

Thats the best part of Mumbai.You are never Alone anytime  Smile
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 38):
Thats the best part of Mumbai.You are never Alone anytime

So that Elvis Presley was NOT in Mumbai when singing "are you lonesome tonight ? "  Big grin  Big grin
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 38):
Thats the best part of Mumbai.You are never Alone anytime

I think I'd have a panic attack if I had to sit with peoples' feet in my face all the frickin' time. All aboard the Malabar Express.  yuck 

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Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:41 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 40):
I think I'd have a panic attack if I had to sit with peoples' feet in my face all the frickin' time. All aboard the Malabar Express

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RE: Is This Common In India?

Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:21 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 39):
So that Elvis Presley was NOT in Mumbai when singing "are you lonesome tonight

After seeing Mumbai He stopped singing that song  Smile
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:16 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 40):
All aboard the Malabar Express.

I don't think you mean it in that context, but that phrase is actually used in some areas of India as slang for a rather umm... physically challenging homosexual activity.
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:00 am

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 43):
I don't think you mean it in that context, but that phrase is actually used in some areas of India as slang for a rather umm... physically challenging homosexual activity.

From the looks of that video, a few of the the riders might actually be riding ... Nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean, know what I mean, say no more, say no more.

They're packed in so tight, you really can't tell.
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:07 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 44):
They're packed in so tight, you really can't tell.

The Local trains have doors too.Its just that they are always open  Smile
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