Confuscius
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Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:45 pm

Man dies after jumping off freeway in Santa Clarita

By Jesus Sanchez, Times Staff Writer
3:57 PM PDT, June 4, 2007

A man jumped to his death from a highway overpass at the junction of the I-5 and 14 freeways in Santa Clarita this afternoon after authorities spent several hours trying to talk him down to safety.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...story?coll=la-headlines-california


I took this picture earlier today while on the way back to the bay area from San Diego. I didn't know he jumped off until I got home.

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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:52 pm

This has postcard written all over it.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:10 pm

Well hopefully he landed somewhere in the grass so that there wouldn't be too much of a clean up. Suicide is such a weak way out of things.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:27 pm

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 2):
Well hopefully he landed somewhere in the grass so that there wouldn't be too much of a clean up. Suicide is such a weak way out of things.

Up until recently I would have agreed with you. It sounds crazy (no pun) to all of us with a sound mind to think about ending your life. I think people who are depressed enough to actually kill themselves, not so much people who do it as a way to bring attention to their problem, but those who are serious about killing themselves have a problem that's on a level they don't comprehend.
 
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:35 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 3):
Up until recently I would have agreed with you. It sounds crazy (no pun) to all of us with a sound mind to think about ending your life. I think people who are depressed enough to actually kill themselves, not so much people who do it as a way to bring attention to their problem, but those who are serious about killing themselves have a problem that's on a level they don't comprehend

I just think that it's a cop out. There are so many ways to get help when you have a problem, the first step is asking for help. Many times people don't realize how much it hurts those around them when they decide to end their lives. I had a good friend that killed himself in high school, and I will never forgive him for doing so. All he had to do was ask any of his friends, family members, or teachers for help. He chose not to do so, and hurt a lot of people.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:43 pm

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4):
All he had to do was ask any of his friends, family members, or teachers for help. He chose not to do so, and hurt a lot of people.

So you think he consciously killed himself?
 
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:35 pm

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4):
There are so many ways to get help when you have a problem, the first step is asking for help.

While this is true, many people with suicidal ideation don't ask for help. Some just simply don't know how or who to ask or where to go. Others may feel that no one else will understand their problem. Some may simply feel that those around them just won't give a damn, either from the way they have been treated by family and friends, or just their perceptions.

Suicidal people generally don't want to die, they just want their pain to end and don't know how else to accomplish that goal.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:06 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 3):
I think people who are depressed enough to actually kill themselves, not so much people who do it as a way to bring attention to their problem, but those who are serious about killing themselves have a problem that's on a level they don't comprehend.



Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4):
I just think that it's a cop out. There are so many ways to get help when you have a problem, the first step is asking for help.



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 6):
While this is true, many people with suicidal ideation don't ask for help. Some just simply don't know how or who to ask or where to go. Others may feel that no one else will understand their problem. Some may simply feel that those around them just won't give a damn, either from the way they have been treated by family and friends, or just their perceptions.

There are so many levels of depression and levels of suicidal thoughts. It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Some don't feel like they can be helped. That their situation is so bad that they are beyond help and the only way to be released is to kill themselves. There are still many suicidal people who make attempts, but really don't want to die. They don't know how or where to get help. So they make an attempt on their life so that someone can help them. It's just sometimes, their attempt does in turn take their lives.

Depression is far beyond a "happy" person's comprehension. True, everyone feels sadness and sometimes that is extreme sadness. However, depression is beyond even that. It's empty hopelessness where there's no light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak.

This is just how I look at it.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:04 pm

Quoting Adopim88 (Reply 7):
Depression is far beyond a "happy" person's comprehension. True, everyone feels sadness and sometimes that is extreme sadness. However, depression is beyond even that. It's empty hopelessness where there's no light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak.

The problem is that today, everyone has some form of depression or mental illness, or at least that's what the psychiatrists and pharmacuticals companies would like us to believe. Anyway, real depression is a very serious problem, but doctors and counsellors are so busy "treating" people that seem to be caught up in the "life is too tough and unfair" fad that they don't have time to help the people who really do need their help.

Just my .02 cents.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:42 pm

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
A man jumped to his death from a highway overpass at the junction of the I-5 and 14 freeways in Santa Clarita this afternoon after authorities spent several hours trying to talk him down to safety

Where are the earth quakes when you need them most. Just enough of one to knock this guy off the bridge early and save everyone the traffic hassle.  duck 
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:19 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
he problem is that today, everyone has some form of depression or mental illness, or at least that's what the psychiatrists and pharmacuticals companies would like us to believe.

There's a difference between being sad and being depressed. Saddness is normal and healthy. The problem becomes when doctors start handing out Prozacs like they're candy and giving people who have normal sadness anti-depressents.
 
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:22 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 10):
There's a difference between being sad and being depressed. Saddness is normal and healthy.

Agree, but tell that to most psychiatrists or counsellors.

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 10):
The problem becomes when doctors start handing out Prozacs like they're candy and giving people who have normal sadness anti-depressents.

And, unfortunately, it has turned into a very big problem because of this.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:03 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
The problem is that today, everyone has some form of depression or mental illness, or at least that's what the psychiatrists and pharmacuticals companies would like us to believe. Anyway, real depression is a very serious problem, but doctors and counsellors are so busy "treating" people that seem to be caught up in the "life is too tough and unfair" fad that they don't have time to help the people who really do need their help.

Exactly.

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 10):
There's a difference between being sad and being depressed. Saddness is normal and healthy. The problem becomes when doctors start handing out Prozacs like they're candy and giving people who have normal sadness anti-depressents.



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 11):
Agree, but tell that to most psychiatrists or counsellors.



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 11):
And, unfortunately, it has turned into a very big problem because of this.

Exactly again. I think people are having a harder and harder time telling the difference between real depression and being sad or feeling low. And everyone getting prescriptions left and right is a cause of this (as you stated earlier)
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:09 pm

Quoting Adopim88 (Reply 12):
Exactly again. I think people are having a harder and harder time telling the difference between real depression and being sad or feeling low. And everyone getting prescriptions left and right is a cause of this (as you stated earlier)

There was a report about this on CBC radio a few weeks ago. Anyway, to make a long story short, apparently there are new "studies" pointing out that most people who have depression, really don't have depression, they just don't know how to cope with day to day situations anymore (like it takes Freud to figure that one out  Wink ), but they are working on a prescription drug to help them cope with day to day situations. Pretty sad and damn scary if you ask me.
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:39 pm

If only Tom Cruise could have gotten to him first... some herbs, vitamins and a chant or two and he would have been fine.  duck 
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RE: Man Jumps Off Freeway Ramp

Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:37 am

What is bad too when someone takes their life, is the guilt and mental anguish people around them including friends, families and innocents suffer. I think is was a year or 2 ago where someone in Los Angeles area took their life from a overpass and landing and thus killing themself near a bus with a NZ flight crew on it. That nights flight was cancelled, and the crew flown back separately to help with their trauma. On Monday, someone climbed up onto the main cables of the George Washington Bridge to jump off during the morning rush hours. Of course the bridge had to be closed for over 2 hours creating a huge mess and the police were able to save this disturbed person. Further questions as to security of the bridge structure access were raised by this attempt.

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